Hello, I'm trying to analyse data from an incomplete design with four factor : - fr : number of the batch - op : ID of operator - meth : method used - mat : nature of the material used and one variable - mv : mesure - trmv : transformed mesure str(matvol) `data.frame': 120 obs. of 6 variables: $ fr : Factor w/ 30 levels "1","2","3","4",..: 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 ... $ op : Factor w/ 3 levels "1","2","3": 3 3 3 3 1 1 1 1 2 2 ... $ meth: Factor w/ 2 levels "1","2": 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 2 2 ... $ mat : Factor w/ 5 levels "1","2","3","4",..: 1 5 2 4 2 1 3 5 2 1 ... $ mv : num 0.761 0.806 0.837 0.264 0.799 ... $ trmv: num 2.12 2.23 2.31 1.08 2.21 ... op, meth and mat are crossed and fr is nested in op*meth interaction. op and fr are taken as random. For each batch, only 4 on the total 5 matrices are mesured (oven constraint), and op and meth are constant. I spent time trying every kind of aov models seeming sensible to me, read the according chapters in MASS2 and still didn't succeed writing the formula to obtain the results I expected (e.a. meth tested vs meth*op, mat vs mat*op, etc.). Can someone bring some light to my clouded mind ? Thanks in advance, Y. Brostaux ==================================================================== YVES BROSTAUX - Ing?nieur agronome Orientation Eaux & For?ts Assistant - Unit? de Statistique et Informatique Gembloux Agricultural University 8, avenue de la Facult? B-5030 Gembloux (Belgium) T?l: +32 (0)81 62 24 69 E-mail : brostaux.y at fsagx.ac.be ==================================================================== -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._