I stumbled across this link and was wondering if this has any relation to the R project. http://www.fas.umontreal.ca/BIOL/Casgrain/en/labo/R/index.html -jennifer ----------------------------------- J. Steinbachs, Ph.D. Computational Biologist http://compbiology.org ----------------------------------- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._
> > I stumbled across this link and was wondering if this has any relation to > the R project. > > http://www.fas.umontreal.ca/BIOL/Casgrain/en/labo/R/index.html >Pierre Legendre's R has nothing to do with this R. As an anecdote: In one ms I have managed to use both R's which made M&M kind of funny to write, since you had to be careful to say clearly which R you used this time. However, even Pierre Legendre's R is freely distributed (although I am not sure they are very careful about licensing of all components they use). cheers, jari oksanen PS. I guess it is appropriate to use this time a quote from Legendre's article in my .sig+, in particular because they are some of the wises words ever published in The Applied Statistics. -- Jari Oksanen -- Dept Biology, Univ Oulu, 90014 Oulu, Finland Ph. +358 8 5531526, cell +358 40 5136529, fax +358 8 5531061 email jari.oksanen at oulu.fi, homepage http://cc.oulu.fi/~jarioksa/ "In any case, single malts must be swallowed", Lapointe et al., +Applied Statistics 43, 237-257 (1994) -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._
>I stumbled across this link and was wondering if this has any relation to >the R project.>http://www.fas.umontreal.ca/BIOL/Casgrain/en/labo/R/index.html>-jennifer>----------------------------------- >J. Steinbachs, Ph.D. >Computational Biologist >http://compbiology.org >-----------------------------------This is a project Pierre Legendre and its staff from Montreal University started 5 or 6 years ago. Legendre's R package has nothing to do with R! It is a collection of routines for numerical ecology for the Macintosh (and everything can be nicely done in R -the CRAN R, I mean-). This is confusing because both projects have almost the same name. What to do? Obviously, none of these projects will change its name! Best Regards, Philippe Grosjean ...........]<(({?<...............<?}))><............................... ) ) ) ) ) __ __ ( ( ( ( ( |__) | _ ) ) ) ) ) | hilippe |__)rosjean ( ( ( ( ( Marine Biol. Lab., ULB, Belgium ) ) ) ) ) __ ( ( ( ( ( |\ /| |__) ) ) ) ) ) | \/ |ariculture & |__)iostatistics ( ( ( ( ( ) ) ) ) ) e-mail: phgrosje at ulb.ac.be or phgrosjean at sciviews.org ( ( ( ( ( SciViews project coordinator (http://www.sciviews.org) ) ) ) ) ) tel: 00-32-2-650.29.70 (lab), 00-32-2-673.31.33 (home) ( ( ( ( ( ) ) ) ) ) "I'm 100% confident that p is between 0 and 1" ( ( ( ( ( L. Gonick & W. Smith (1993) ) ) ) ) ) ....................................................................... -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._
>I stumbled across this link and was wondering if this has any relation to >the R project.>http://www.fas.umontreal.ca/BIOL/Casgrain/en/labo/R/index.html>-jennifer>----------------------------------- >J. Steinbachs, Ph.D. >Computational Biologist >http://compbiology.org >-----------------------------------This is a project Pierre Legendre and its staff from Montreal University started 5 or 6 years ago. Legendre's R package has nothing to do with R! It is a collection of routines for numerical ecology for the Macintosh (and everything can be nicely done in R -the CRAN R, I mean-). This is confusing because both projects have almost the same name. What to do? Obviously, none of these projects will change its name! Best Regards, Philippe Grosjean ...........]<(({?<...............<?}))><............................... ) ) ) ) ) __ __ ( ( ( ( ( |__) | _ ) ) ) ) ) | hilippe |__)rosjean ( ( ( ( ( Marine Biol. Lab., ULB, Belgium ) ) ) ) ) __ ( ( ( ( ( |\ /| |__) ) ) ) ) ) | \/ |ariculture & |__)iostatistics ( ( ( ( ( ) ) ) ) ) e-mail: phgrosje at ulb.ac.be or phgrosjean at sciviews.org ( ( ( ( ( SciViews project coordinator (http://www.sciviews.org) ) ) ) ) ) tel: 00-32-2-650.29.70 (lab), 00-32-2-673.31.33 (home) ( ( ( ( ( ) ) ) ) ) "I'm 100% confident that p is between 0 and 1" ( ( ( ( ( L. Gonick & W. Smith (1993) ) ) ) ) ) ....................................................................... -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._
> > http://www.fas.umontreal.ca/BIOL/Casgrain/en/labo/R/index.html > > -jennifer > > ----------------------------------- > J. Steinbachs, Ph.D. > Computational Biologist > http://compbiology.org > -----------------------------------I don't think it is related to the R we all know and love. It's interesting though. Dave. ********************************************************** ** Dr. David Lucy ** ** Centre for Forensic Statistics and Legal Reasoning ** ** Department of Mathematics and Statistics ** ** The University of Edinburgh ** ** James Clerk Maxwell Building ** ** King's Buildings ** ** Mayfield Road ** ** Edinburgh ** ** EH9 3JZ ** ** ** ** tel: 0131 650 5057 ** ** e-mail: dlucy at maths.ed.ac.uk ** ********************************************************** -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._
Hello, I'm the head developer of the R Package, so I'd like to clarify some things :-)> I stumbled across this link and was wondering if this has any relation > to > the R project. > > http://www.fas.umontreal.ca/BIOL/Casgrain/en/labo/R/index.htmlAside from using the 18th letter of the alphabet, none. "The R Package" predates the "R Project" by several years. The word "package" stems from the fact that it was, in the beginning, an eclectic collection of multivariate analysis programs.> However, even Pierre Legendre's R is freely distributed (although > I am not sure they are very careful about licensing of all components > they use).When I get around to finish cleaning it up and bringing everything to version 4, we're thinking about releasing it as open source. However, it's all written in Pascal, and Pascal compilers are not very common in open-source projects. Besides, IIRC, all the algorithms are described in Legendre and Legendre's "Numerical Ecology" textbook (1998).> This is a project Pierre Legendre and its staff from Montreal University > started 5 or 6 years ago. Legendre's R package has nothing to do with > R! It > is a collection of routines for numerical ecology for the Macintosh (and > everything can be nicely done in R -the CRAN R, I mean-). This is > confusing > because both projects have almost the same name. What to do? Obviously, > none > of these projects will change its name!5 or 6 years? Try 23! It actually started in 1978. I'm the third programmer on it. It's also not a collection of routines, but of compiled applications (currently only for MacOS, but I'm working on a Windows port). If one were to follow rules of publishing, we'd have the original ownership since we published it first ;-)> Why not? Perhaps 'our R' should change its name to 'R-plus'? :)Since R is related to S+, I believe that makes sense! That, or a recursive acronym ? la gnu: RinS (R is not S plus)...> I remember NAME, an European seminar on Numerical Analysis in Marine > Ecology > where Pierre Legendre proudly introduced its R package to us. We were > wondering why this name, R, for such a software... and we finally > concluded > that it should be because it adopts an R strategy.Nice guess :-), but here's the real reason (from our user's guide): "The name of the package, ?R?, comes from our 1978 work on PDP-10 equipment, where R (for Run) was the command to start a program. In the CDC implementation, we kept ?R? as the name of the main calling program written in CCL, which is the equivalent of a large IBM EXEC file, thus mimicking the PDP way of calling the programs. This is why ?R? has gradually shifted to become the pleasantly short name of the package."> Anyway, if R is mysterious as a name for Legendre's R package... it is > clearer for "CRAN-R" because it is "not unlike S"! I suppose that if > somebody wants to make another software "not unlike R", he should call > it... > Q.Funny, I'm actually working on a program whose code-name is "The Q Package" since it is partly derived from the R Package, and will replace another (commercial) product whose name begins with the letter Q... Best wishes to all, Philippe Casgrain -- This message was brought to you by the letter R -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._