Ristow, Warren via llvm-dev
2017-Sep-30 02:16 UTC
[llvm-dev] Trouble when suppressing a portion of fast-math-transformations
Hi Hal,>> 4. To fix this, I think that additional fast-math-flags are likely >> needed in the IR. Instead of the following set: >> >> 'nnan' + 'ninf' + 'nsz' + 'arcp' + 'contract' >> >> something like this: >> >> 'reassoc' + 'libm' + 'nnan' + 'ninf' + 'nsz' + 'arcp' + 'contract' >> >> would be more useful. Related to this, the current 'fast' flag which acts >> as an umbrella (enabling 'nnan' + 'ninf' + 'nsz' + 'arcp' + 'contract') may >> not be needed. A discussion on this point was raised last November on the >> mailing list: >> >> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2016-November/107104.html > > I agree. I'm happy to help review the patches. It will be best to have > only the finer-grained flags where there's no "fast" flag that implies > all of the others.Thanks for the quick response, and for the willingness to review. I won't let this languish so long, like the post from last November. Happy to hear that you feel it's best not to have the umbrella "fast" flag. Thanks again, -Warren
Sanjay Patel via llvm-dev
2017-Oct-01 23:05 UTC
[llvm-dev] Trouble when suppressing a portion of fast-math-transformations
Are we confident that we just need those 7 bits to represent all of the relaxed FP states that we need/want to support? I'm asking because FMF in IR is currently mapped onto the SubclassOptionalData of Value...and we have exactly 7 bits there. :) If we're redoing the definitions, I'm wondering if we can share the struct with the backend's SDNodeFlags, but that already has one extra bit for vector reduction. Should we give up on SubclassOptionalData for FMF? We have a MD_fpmath enum value for metadata, so we could move things over there? On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Ristow, Warren via llvm-dev < llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:> Hi Hal, > > >> 4. To fix this, I think that additional fast-math-flags are likely > >> needed in the IR. Instead of the following set: > >> > >> 'nnan' + 'ninf' + 'nsz' + 'arcp' + 'contract' > >> > >> something like this: > >> > >> 'reassoc' + 'libm' + 'nnan' + 'ninf' + 'nsz' + 'arcp' + 'contract' > >> > >> would be more useful. Related to this, the current 'fast' flag which > acts > >> as an umbrella (enabling 'nnan' + 'ninf' + 'nsz' + 'arcp' + 'contract') > may > >> not be needed. A discussion on this point was raised last November on > the > >> mailing list: > >> > >> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2016-November/107104.html > > > > I agree. I'm happy to help review the patches. It will be best to have > > only the finer-grained flags where there's no "fast" flag that implies > > all of the others. > > Thanks for the quick response, and for the willingness to review. I won't > let > this languish so long, like the post from last November. > > Happy to hear that you feel it's best not to have the umbrella "fast" flag. > > Thanks again, > -Warren > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20171001/1b26477e/attachment.html>
Ristow, Warren via llvm-dev
2017-Oct-02 13:45 UTC
[llvm-dev] Trouble when suppressing a portion of fast-math-transformations
I'm not aware of any additional bits needed. But putting us right at the edge leaves me uncomfortable. So an implementation that isn't limited by the 7 bits in SubclassOptionalData seems sensible. Thanks, -Warren From: Sanjay Patel [mailto:spatel at rotateright.com] Sent: Monday, October 2, 2017 12:06 AM To: Ristow, Warren Cc: Hal Finkel; llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] Trouble when suppressing a portion of fast-math-transformations Are we confident that we just need those 7 bits to represent all of the relaxed FP states that we need/want to support? I'm asking because FMF in IR is currently mapped onto the SubclassOptionalData of Value...and we have exactly 7 bits there. :) If we're redoing the definitions, I'm wondering if we can share the struct with the backend's SDNodeFlags, but that already has one extra bit for vector reduction. Should we give up on SubclassOptionalData for FMF? We have a MD_fpmath enum value for metadata, so we could move things over there? On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Ristow, Warren via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org<mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>> wrote: Hi Hal,>> 4. To fix this, I think that additional fast-math-flags are likely >> needed in the IR. Instead of the following set: >> >> 'nnan' + 'ninf' + 'nsz' + 'arcp' + 'contract' >> >> something like this: >> >> 'reassoc' + 'libm' + 'nnan' + 'ninf' + 'nsz' + 'arcp' + 'contract' >> >> would be more useful. Related to this, the current 'fast' flag which acts >> as an umbrella (enabling 'nnan' + 'ninf' + 'nsz' + 'arcp' + 'contract') may >> not be needed. A discussion on this point was raised last November on the >> mailing list: >> >> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2016-November/107104.html > > I agree. I'm happy to help review the patches. It will be best to have > only the finer-grained flags where there's no "fast" flag that implies > all of the others.Thanks for the quick response, and for the willingness to review. I won't let this languish so long, like the post from last November. Happy to hear that you feel it's best not to have the umbrella "fast" flag. Thanks again, -Warren _______________________________________________ LLVM Developers mailing list llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org<mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20171002/d69e4328/attachment.html>
Hal Finkel via llvm-dev
2017-Oct-03 00:48 UTC
[llvm-dev] Trouble when suppressing a portion of fast-math-transformations
On 10/01/2017 06:05 PM, Sanjay Patel wrote:> Are we confident that we just need those 7 bits to represent all of > the relaxed FP states that we need/want to support? > > I'm asking because FMF in IR is currently mapped onto the > SubclassOptionalData of Value...and we have exactly 7 bits there. :) > > If we're redoing the definitions, I'm wondering if we can share the > struct with the backend's SDNodeFlags, but that already has one extra > bit for vector reduction. Should we give up on SubclassOptionalData > for FMF? We have a MD_fpmath enum value for metadata, so we could move > things over there?I agree that using SubclassOptionalData is going to be problematic when we run out of bits. As I recall, the reason that we didn't use metadata in the first place was because metadata is (generically) expensive. This case is very much like the case of debug info: in some modes, we add the debugging metadata to nearly every instruction. We use metadata for debug locations, syntactically, but we actually have a DebugLoc in each instruction that's used for the underlying representation. Here we'd have a similar problem: in some modes, we'd add this metadata to a large subset of all instructions. That could measurably slow down the optimizer. We may need to find some other place to put the data (e.g., an actual member variable of Instruction or more tail-allocated data in places) -Hal> > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Ristow, Warren via llvm-dev > <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>> wrote: > > Hi Hal, > > >> 4. To fix this, I think that additional fast-math-flags are likely > >> needed in the IR. Instead of the following set: > >> > >> 'nnan' + 'ninf' + 'nsz' + 'arcp' + 'contract' > >> > >> something like this: > >> > >> 'reassoc' + 'libm' + 'nnan' + 'ninf' + 'nsz' + 'arcp' + 'contract' > >> > >> would be more useful. Related to this, the current 'fast' flag > which acts > >> as an umbrella (enabling 'nnan' + 'ninf' + 'nsz' + 'arcp' + > 'contract') may > >> not be needed. A discussion on this point was raised last > November on the > >> mailing list: > >> > >> > http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2016-November/107104.html > <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2016-November/107104.html> > > > > I agree. I'm happy to help review the patches. It will be best > to have > > only the finer-grained flags where there's no "fast" flag that > implies > > all of the others. > > Thanks for the quick response, and for the willingness to review. > I won't let > this languish so long, like the post from last November. > > Happy to hear that you feel it's best not to have the umbrella > "fast" flag. > > Thanks again, > -Warren > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> > http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev > <http://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev> > >-- Hal Finkel Lead, Compiler Technology and Programming Languages Leadership Computing Facility Argonne National Laboratory -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20171002/ddae8942/attachment.html>
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