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Renato Golin via llvm-dev

2016-Jul-04 08:48 UTC

[llvm-dev] Updating release docs and minimal tools

Folks,

I'm in the process of updating this page:

http://llvm.org/docs/HowToReleaseLLVM.html

which had its last review in the middle ages.

In particular, I'm removing "dragonegg" from the list of
requirements,
changing the "build" instructions to use the test-release script (by
pointing it to the right doc [1]), and updating the list of
requirements.

CMake is now required to be 3.4.3 for *all* platforms, and Ninja is
best if 1.5+ (but not required). That's the easy part. But I'm not
sure about the compiler version...

Some of the versions cite gcc 3.4.5 in mingw, which I find hard to
believe, given the recent c++11 additions. It also doesn't mention
MSVC or Clang at all, which is a serious lack of information.

Since I haven't been paying that much attention to the progress (and
my minimum version is GCC 4.8), I'd like for people to chime in on
which versions work where. The versions used to matter across arches
because of basic support, but now, all of that is gone in GCC, and we
only have MSVC to worry about.

Last I remember, Linux (all arches) minimum was 4.7.2, though there
may be some newer developments requiring 4.8.2.

I believe Clang 3.6 was once the minimum on all arches and OSs, but
this may also have changed.

MSVC was once 2012 but may recently have changed to allow more C++11
goodness, and I have no idea about Mingw.

Also, is there *any* pre-GPLv3 GCC in Mac or BSD that can compile
Clang at this day and age?

Please, let me know and I'll update the doc to the appropriate values.

cheers,
--renato


[1] http://llvm.org/docs/ReleaseProcess.html

Sean Silva via llvm-dev

2016-Jul-06 01:01 UTC

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On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Renato Golin via llvm-dev <
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I'm in the process of updating this page:
>
> http://llvm.org/docs/HowToReleaseLLVM.html
>
> which had its last review in the middle ages.
>
> In particular, I'm removing "dragonegg" from the list of
requirements,
> changing the "build" instructions to use the test-release script
(by
> pointing it to the right doc [1]), and updating the list of
> requirements.
>
> CMake is now required to be 3.4.3 for *all* platforms, and Ninja is
> best if 1.5+ (but not required). That's the easy part. But I'm not
> sure about the compiler version...
>
> Some of the versions cite gcc 3.4.5 in mingw, which I find hard to
> believe, given the recent c++11 additions. It also doesn't mention
> MSVC or Clang at all, which is a serious lack of information.
>
> Since I haven't been paying that much attention to the progress (and
> my minimum version is GCC 4.8), I'd like for people to chime in on
> which versions work where. The versions used to matter across arches
> because of basic support, but now, all of that is gone in GCC, and we
> only have MSVC to worry about.
>
> Last I remember, Linux (all arches) minimum was 4.7.2, though there
> may be some newer developments requiring 4.8.2.
>
> I believe Clang 3.6 was once the minimum on all arches and OSs, but
> this may also have changed.
>
> MSVC was once 2012 but may recently have changed to allow more C++11
> goodness, and I have no idea about Mingw.
>
MSVC 2013 and 2015 are the only MSVC's that are supported currently.

-- Sean Silva

>
> Also, is there *any* pre-GPLv3 GCC in Mac or BSD that can compile
> Clang at this day and age?
>
> Please, let me know and I'll update the doc to the appropriate values.
>
> cheers,
> --renato
>
>
> [1] http://llvm.org/docs/ReleaseProcess.html
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Mehdi Amini via llvm-dev

2016-Jul-06 04:44 UTC

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requirements,<br class="">changing the "build"
instructions to use the test-release script (by<br
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of<br class="">requirements.<br class=""><br
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Ninja is<br class="">best if 1.5+ (but not required). That's
the easy part. But I'm not<br class="">sure about the
compiler version...<br class=""><br
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hard to<br class="">believe, given the recent c++11 additions.
It also doesn't mention<br class="">MSVC or Clang at all,
which is a serious lack of information.<br class=""><br
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progress (and<br class="">my minimum version is GCC 4.8),
I'd like for people to chime in on<br class="">which
versions work where. The versions used to matter across arches<br
class="">because of basic support, but now, all of that is gone in
GCC, and we<br class="">only have MSVC to worry about.<br
class=""><br class="">Last I remember, Linux (all
arches) minimum was 4.7.2, though there<br class="">may be some
newer developments requiring 4.8.2.<br class=""><br
class="">I believe Clang 3.6 was once the minimum on all arches and
OSs, but<br class="">this may also have changed.<br
class=""><br class="">MSVC was once 2012 but may
recently have changed to allow more C++11<br class="">goodness,
and I have no idea about Mingw.<br
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2015 are the only MSVC's that are supported
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compile<br class="">Clang at this day and age?<br
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Mehdi Amini via llvm-dev

2016-Jul-06 18:16 UTC

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> On Jul 5, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Sean Silva via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at
lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Renato Golin via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at
lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>> wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> I'm in the process of updating this page:
> 
> http://llvm.org/docs/HowToReleaseLLVM.html
<http://llvm.org/docs/HowToReleaseLLVM.html>
> 
> which had its last review in the middle ages.
> 
> In particular, I'm removing "dragonegg" from the list of
requirements,
> changing the "build" instructions to use the test-release script
(by
> pointing it to the right doc [1]), and updating the list of
> requirements.
> 
> CMake is now required to be 3.4.3 for *all* platforms, and Ninja is
> best if 1.5+ (but not required). That's the easy part. But I'm not
> sure about the compiler version...
> 
> Some of the versions cite gcc 3.4.5 in mingw, which I find hard to
> believe, given the recent c++11 additions. It also doesn't mention
> MSVC or Clang at all, which is a serious lack of information.
> 
> Since I haven't been paying that much attention to the progress (and
> my minimum version is GCC 4.8), I'd like for people to chime in on
> which versions work where. The versions used to matter across arches
> because of basic support, but now, all of that is gone in GCC, and we
> only have MSVC to worry about.
> 
> Last I remember, Linux (all arches) minimum was 4.7.2, though there
> may be some newer developments requiring 4.8.2.
> 
> I believe Clang 3.6 was once the minimum on all arches and OSs, but
> this may also have changed.
> 
> MSVC was once 2012 but may recently have changed to allow more C++11
> goodness, and I have no idea about Mingw.
> 
> MSVC 2013 and 2015 are the only MSVC's that are supported currently.
And I guess
http://llvm.org/docs/GettingStarted.html#host-c-toolchain-both-compiler-and-standard-library
<http://llvm.org/docs/GettingStarted.html#host-c-toolchain-both-compiler-and-standard-library>
should be the source of truth about what we support?

— 
Mehdi


>  
> 
> Also, is there *any* pre-GPLv3 GCC in Mac or BSD that can compile
> Clang at this day and age?
> 
> Please, let me know and I'll update the doc to the appropriate values.
> 
> cheers,
> --renato
> 
> 
> [1] http://llvm.org/docs/ReleaseProcess.html
<http://llvm.org/docs/ReleaseProcess.html>
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