Thanks for all the feedback! It seems there is some interest, so I thought I'd try to summarize discussions so far, and provide patches for closer inspection. I'm not sure if patches should end up here or on a different list in this instance, so if I should instead send this to a different list, I'm happy to do so. - Is diversity needed, or are existing protections sufficient? As several people have mentioned, industry adopters need very low overhead in many situations, and diversity might be a good fit here. Ultimately diversity is just one piece of the whole security puzzle, and could be combined with other techniques for increased assurance. There did not seem to be a strong consensus in this discussion about whether diversity is critical, although it appears that existing static analysis tools are insufficient to cover all cases. - Distribution. Distributing large numbers of randomized variants to end-users could be difficult. Prelink diversification was mentioned, which may be a good direction to go with this for the future. However, a basic implementation in LLVM would provide a good starting point for future improvements. This implementation would also provide a useful security measure now for users who are already compiling their own software. - Security. As was pointed out, diversity is not a perfect solution, and could be bypassed through the use of memory disclosures and scripting. However, this is certainly much harder for the attacker to pull off. In addition, existing security techniques should be used alongside diversity for defense-in-depth. - Random number generation. Discussions established that the use of some sort of an internal RNG is required for reproducibility. The use of a cryptographically secure RNG is considered best-practice for any randomness used for security purposes. Since the RNG we are proposing is still very fast, there doesn't appear to be a significant disadvantage to using it. We do need a fallback RNG when OpenSSL is unavailable, and have therefore included a simple LCG as well. I have attached our current patches against r190882, as well as a bit of documentation. Not sure what the next steps here are, but feel free to test out the code and let us know how it goes. - stephen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: USAGE Type: application/octet-stream Size: 995 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20130919/65136070/attachment.obj> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: llvm_diversity.diff Type: application/octet-stream Size: 58397 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20130919/65136070/attachment-0001.obj> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: clang_diversity.diff Type: application/octet-stream Size: 7036 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20130919/65136070/attachment-0002.obj>
Stephen Crane wrote:> Thanks for all the feedback! It seems there is some interest, so I thought I'd try to summarize discussions so far, and provide patches for closer inspection. I'm not sure if patches should end up here or on a different list in this instance, so if I should instead send this to a different list, I'm happy to do so. > > - Is diversity needed, or are existing protections sufficient? As several people have mentioned, industry adopters need very low overhead in many situations, and diversity might be a good fit here. Ultimately diversity is just one piece of the whole security puzzle, and could be combined with other techniques for increased assurance. There did not seem to be a strong consensus in this discussion about whether diversity is critical, although it appears that existing static analysis tools are insufficient to cover all cases. > > - Distribution. Distributing large numbers of randomized variants to end-users could be difficult. Prelink diversification was mentioned, which may be a good direction to go with this for the future. However, a basic implementation in LLVM would provide a good starting point for future improvements. This implementation would also provide a useful security measure now for users who are already compiling their own software. > > - Security. As was pointed out, diversity is not a perfect solution, and could be bypassed through the use of memory disclosures and scripting. However, this is certainly much harder for the attacker to pull off. In addition, existing security techniques should be used alongside diversity for defense-in-depth. > > - Random number generation. Discussions established that the use of some sort of an internal RNG is required for reproducibility. The use of a cryptographically secure RNG is considered best-practice for any randomness used for security purposes. Since the RNG we are proposing is still very fast, there doesn't appear to be a significant disadvantage to using it. We do need a fallback RNG when OpenSSL is unavailable, and have therefore included a simple LCG as well. > > I have attached our current patches against r190882, as well as a bit of documentation. Not sure what the next steps here are, but feel free to test out the code and let us know how it goes.Awesome! I'll jump right in to reviewing. Note that my reviews often focus on low-level stuff (formatting, typos). I understand that these patches may not be ready for that, and rather expect a higher-level review, but I'll do what I do anyways. You have separate LLVM_WITH_OPENSSL and LLVM_ENABLE_RNG settings. Why? Either LLVM_ENABLE_RNG should always be on and then people can choose to link in openssl or not. Or maybe you're worried that this is insecure and you should remove LLVM_ENABLE_RNG and make it driven solely on LLVM_ENABLE_RNG? If you think we can put a good enough RNG into LLVM, we should go with turning on LLVM_ENABLE_RNG permanently, but if not then we should make the whole thing conditional on whether LLVM_WITH_OPENSSL is set. + //// isInsertedNOP - Return true if the instruction is an + //// artificially inserted NOP Three slashes for a doxygen comment, not four. + /** + * Shuffles an iplist of type T + */ In LLVM, the style is: // Shuffles an iplist of type T + void shuffle(iplist<T>& list){ Missing space before '{'. + if(list.empty()) return; Missing space before '('. + for(typename iplist<T>::iterator i = list.begin(); i != list.end(); ){ See http://llvm.org/docs/CodingStandards.html#don-t-evaluate-end-every-time-through-a-loop . The llvm way is: for (typename iplist<T>::iterator i = list.begin(), e = list.end(); i != e; ++i) { Also spaces before '(' and '{'. + for(typename SmallVector<T*, 10>::size_type i = 0; i < sv.size(); i++){ Similarly. Are you familiar with std::random_device and the random number generator C++ 11 standard libary components? Yep, I'm going to ask you to expose a compatible API, or reasons why that doesn't work (or is silly). std::random_device is defined to be non-deterministic, and you needn't provide methods that you don't call (entropy()) but it would be convenient for everyone reading the API if it were a subset of an existing standard, or with clearly documented deviations from the standard. --- /dev/null +++ b/lib/Support/RandomNumberGenerator.cpp @@ -0,0 +1,271 @@ + +// +// The LLVM Compiler Infrastructure Whoops! Missed the ruler comment at the top. +namespace { + static cl::opt<unsigned long long> + RandomSeed("rng-seed", cl::value_desc("seed"), + cl::desc("Seed for the random number generator")); namespace and static are redundant. Just use static. http://llvm.org/docs/CodingStandards.html#static + PKCS5_PBKDF2_HMAC_SHA1(Password.data(), Password.size(), (unsigned char*)&Salt, sizeof(Salt), PBKDF_ITERATIONS, KeyLen, RandomBytes); 80-column violation. http://llvm.org/docs/CodingStandards.html#source-code-width +void RandomNumberGenerator::ReadStateFile(StringRef StateFilename) { There's nothing wrong with this function per se. It isn't buggy. I'm just wondering how this API fits with the general "llvm as a library" approach. LLVM doesn't generally bake in the assumption that it's running on a system with a filesystem. For example, the bitcode reader has a convenience method which reads a .bc file, sure, but that just does the action of loading it into a MemoryBuffer, and forwards it along to the API using MemoryBuffer that does the work. I think you should follow that pattern here too. +void RandomNumberGenerator::WriteStateFile(StringRef StateFilename) { llvm::raw_ostream, for similar reasons? +//===- NOPInsertion.cpp - Insert NOPs between instructions ---*- C++ -*-===// The emacs mode marker isn't necessary on .cpp files, it's only .h files which are ambiguous (C vs. C++). Also, some of those spaces should be hyphens. +bool NOPInsertionPass::runOnMachineFunction(MachineFunction &Fn) { + const TargetInstrInfo *TII = Fn.getTarget().getInstrInfo(); + PreNOPFunctionCount++; + static int nopsInserted = 0; Hmmm. We don't currently run machine function passes in parallel, but in theory LLVM is designed to allow it (function passes aren't allowed to look outside their functions, for example). Fortunately, it looks like the only thing you do with this variable is increment it, but never read it for anything? Nuke it? Overall this looks like a great start. However, I would like some other people to review things: - I don't actually approve lib/CodeGen and lib/Target changes. Somebody else is going to have to think about whether "InsertedNOP" belongs as an MIFlag. - I'm concerned about seeding the RNG. I'm especially concerned about seeding it in the LTO case, I hadn't thought of that until I saw it in the patch. I'm appreciate if somebody with a security background could ponder that one. - There's also a clang patch which should be reviewed by cfe-commits. Nick
Nick, Thanks so much for such a detailed review. I definitely missed a few of the details of the LLVM standards. Sorry. Here's a new patch that should resolve the issues you pointed out. I've also included a few comments below -- anything I haven't replied to has been fixed. In particular, I'd like to discuss RNG seeding with the list. I currently use a static singleton to make sure there is only a single RNG ever instantiated, but this is obviously undesirable. Is there a better place where we can initialize the RNG in a thread-safe manner? We really need an RNG for each thread in that case, so that the results are consistent, regardless of thread ordering. I'm not familiar enough with LLVM to know if such a place even exists. On Sep 20, 2013, at 00:52 , Nick Lewycky <nicholas at mxc.ca> wrote:> Awesome! I'll jump right in to reviewing. Note that my reviews often focus on low-level stuff (formatting, typos). I understand that these patches may not be ready for that, and rather expect a higher-level review, but I'll do what I do anyways.Works for me! You're completely right that I was initially expecting some higher-level feedback, but this is great.> You have separate LLVM_WITH_OPENSSL and LLVM_ENABLE_RNG settings. Why? Either LLVM_ENABLE_RNG should always be on and then people can choose to link in openssl or not. Or maybe you're worried that this is insecure and you should remove LLVM_ENABLE_RNG and make it driven solely on LLVM_ENABLE_RNG? If you think we can put a good enough RNG into LLVM, we should go with turning on LLVM_ENABLE_RNG permanently, but if not then we should make the whole thing conditional on whether LLVM_WITH_OPENSSL is set.I had initially included this because I expected resistance to adding an RNG at all, but it now appears that we're all on the same page that some RNG is required. I'll go ahead and remove the ENABLE_RNG defines.> Are you familiar with std::random_device and the random number generator C++ 11 standard libary components? Yep, I'm going to ask you to expose a compatible API, or reasons why that doesn't work (or is silly). std::random_device is defined to be non-deterministic, and you needn't provide methods that you don't call (entropy()) but it would be convenient for everyone reading the API if it were a subset of an existing standard, or with clearly documented deviations from the standard.I had not actually thought about using the std::random_device interface. If we were able to use C++11 features, this would be quite nice, since that includes builtin things like shuffle over RandomAccessIterators and such niceties. However, since this is not the case, I think complying to the <random> API (which is quite odd, there's not even an overarching interface) might be more complication than is necessary. We would have to emulate not only the generator, but also the distribution classes and the generic shuffle method. Even using operator() makes the client code particularly unreadable, since it currently uses a static Generator() getter to get the instance of the RNG. I'd like to resolve this first, then we can look at whether using the operator() interface makes sense.> +void RandomNumberGenerator::ReadStateFile(StringRef StateFilename) { > > There's nothing wrong with this function per se. It isn't buggy. I'm just wondering how this API fits with the general "llvm as a library" approach. LLVM doesn't generally bake in the assumption that it's running on a system with a filesystem. For example, the bitcode reader has a convenience method which reads a .bc file, sure, but that just does the action of loading it into a MemoryBuffer, and forwards it along to the API using MemoryBuffer that does the work. I think you should follow that pattern here too.On thinking this over further, I think this feature is simply not needed any more. We had some trouble with getting 64-bit command-line options working, but since this works now, the state file really shouldn't be needed. Nuked.> Overall this looks like a great start. However, I would like some other people to review things: > - I don't actually approve lib/CodeGen and lib/Target changes. Somebody else is going to have to think about whether "InsertedNOP" belongs as an MIFlag.The reasoning behind making this an MIFlag was to be able to skip over NOPs in the terminators of a block. For uniform security we want to be able to place NOPs in the terminators, but still need to skip over them when finding the first terminator.> - I'm concerned about seeding the RNG. I'm especially concerned about seeding it in the LTO case, I hadn't thought of that until I saw it in the patch. I'm appreciate if somebody with a security background could ponder that one. > - There's also a clang patch which should be reviewed by cfe-commits. > > Nick-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: llvm_diversity-0.2.diff Type: application/octet-stream Size: 49872 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20130920/dd455f79/attachment.obj> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: clang_diversity-0.2.diff Type: application/octet-stream Size: 7007 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20130920/dd455f79/attachment-0001.obj>
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