llvm dev - Jan 2005 - [LLVMdev] Oversight group for LLVM

Hello everyone,

The LLVM project has evolved significantly since our first public 
release in Oct. 2003.  Most importantly, we've gained many new users 
and several active contributors, and we want to encourage and support 
them and attract more.   At the same time, the software itself has 
undergone some significant changes and improvements, and been ported to 
new platforms.  We expect that both the community and the software will 
continue evolve significantly over time.

We feel that this would be a good time to establish a small oversight 
group to manage the continued development, distribution, and 
community-building process for LLVM.  Our broad aim is to foster the 
wider adoption and growth of LLVM, and encourage participation and 
contributions from both UIUC and non-UIUC users.  We do *not* want to 
create a bureaucracy, and definitely don't want the oversight group to 
get involved in approving each patch or even significant check-ins.  
Instead, this group will focus on higher level issues like identifying 
problems and opportunities that make users' lives easier, finding ways 
to attract new users and new contributors, and evaluating major design 
changes.

We have put up a Web page that describes the mission and some of the 
specific goals of this group:
	http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu/Oversight.html
Comments or suggestions are welcome; please send them to 
oversight at llvm.cs.uiuc.edu.

--Vikram, Chris, Misha, and Reid

Hi OG,

I think it first of all would be nice, if we could supplement this group 
with a discussion list on this topic. The reason for this isn't to ad more 
bureacracy, but to present public ideas and visions to a broader forum and I 
belive in that the more elaboration within a broader forum the better the 
ideas will get and the more people will get committed to start and finish 
the task.

Moreover, as a side effect, the sooner some ideas get publish in the public 
the bigger are the chances that no one will get a patent on the idea.

Off course the OG still decides the way llvm should go.

Henrik.

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----Original Message Follows----
From: "Vikram S. Adve" <vadve at cs.uiuc.edu>
Reply-To: LLVM Developers Mailing List <llvmdev at cs.uiuc.edu>
To: LLVM Developers Mailing List <llvmdev at cs.uiuc.edu>
Subject: [LLVMdev] Oversight group for LLVM
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:34:37 -0600

Hello everyone,

The LLVM project has evolved significantly since our first public release in 
Oct. 2003.  Most importantly, we've gained many new users and several active
contributors, and we want to encourage and support them and attract more.   
At the same time, the software itself has undergone some significant changes 
and improvements, and been ported to new platforms.  We expect that both the 
community and the software will continue evolve significantly over time.

We feel that this would be a good time to establish a small oversight group 
to manage the continued development, distribution, and community-building 
process for LLVM.  Our broad aim is to foster the wider adoption and growth 
of LLVM, and encourage participation and contributions from both UIUC and 
non-UIUC users.  We do *not* want to create a bureaucracy, and definitely 
don't want the oversight group to get involved in approving each patch or 
even significant check-ins.  Instead, this group will focus on higher level 
issues like identifying problems and opportunities that make users' lives 
easier, finding ways to attract new users and new contributors, and 
evaluating major design changes.

We have put up a Web page that describes the mission and some of the 
specific goals of this group:
	http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu/Oversight.html
Comments or suggestions are welcome; please send them to 
oversight at llvm.cs.uiuc.edu.

--Vikram, Chris, Misha, and Reid

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On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Henrik Bach wrote:
> I think it first of all would be nice, if we could supplement this group
with
> a discussion list on this topic. The reason for this isn't to ad more 
> bureacracy, but to present public ideas and visions to a broader forum and
I
> belive in that the more elaboration within a broader forum the better the 
> ideas will get and the more people will get committed to start and finish
the
> task.
We will see how it goes, but I think almost everything will continue to be 
discussed on the main LLVMdev list.  The idea isn't to create an opaque 
process that no one else understands or can impact.  In my mind, there are 
two primary purposes of the group:

   1. Give assurance of the long-term viability of LLVM.
   2. Provide a way to arbitrate disagreements between developers.

I feel that #1 is important to continue to attract new developers, 
particularly those in the commercial sector.  #2 is important as LLVM 
grows, because more people working on a project have more chances for 
conflict.

I hope and expect that the oversight group will end up being extremely 
low-volume.

-Chris
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Vikram S. Adve" <vadve at cs.uiuc.edu>
> Reply-To: LLVM Developers Mailing List <llvmdev at cs.uiuc.edu>
> To: LLVM Developers Mailing List <llvmdev at cs.uiuc.edu>
> Subject: [LLVMdev] Oversight group for LLVM
> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:34:37 -0600
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> The LLVM project has evolved significantly since our first public release
in
> Oct. 2003.  Most importantly, we've gained many new users and several
active
> contributors, and we want to encourage and support them and attract more. 
> At the same time, the software itself has undergone some significant
changes
> and improvements, and been ported to new platforms.  We expect that both
the
> community and the software will continue evolve significantly over time.
>
> We feel that this would be a good time to establish a small oversight group
> to manage the continued development, distribution, and community-building 
> process for LLVM.  Our broad aim is to foster the wider adoption and growth
> of LLVM, and encourage participation and contributions from both UIUC and 
> non-UIUC users.  We do *not* want to create a bureaucracy, and definitely 
> don't want the oversight group to get involved in approving each patch
or
> even significant check-ins.  Instead, this group will focus on higher level
> issues like identifying problems and opportunities that make users'
lives
> easier, finding ways to attract new users and new contributors, and 
> evaluating major design changes.
>
> We have put up a Web page that describes the mission and some of the
specific
> goals of this group:
> 	http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu/Oversight.html
> Comments or suggestions are welcome; please send them to 
> oversight at llvm.cs.uiuc.edu.
>
> --Vikram, Chris, Misha, and Reid
>
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