Hello everyone, The LLVM project has evolved significantly since our first public release in Oct. 2003. Most importantly, we've gained many new users and several active contributors, and we want to encourage and support them and attract more. At the same time, the software itself has undergone some significant changes and improvements, and been ported to new platforms. We expect that both the community and the software will continue evolve significantly over time. We feel that this would be a good time to establish a small oversight group to manage the continued development, distribution, and community-building process for LLVM. Our broad aim is to foster the wider adoption and growth of LLVM, and encourage participation and contributions from both UIUC and non-UIUC users. We do *not* want to create a bureaucracy, and definitely don't want the oversight group to get involved in approving each patch or even significant check-ins. Instead, this group will focus on higher level issues like identifying problems and opportunities that make users' lives easier, finding ways to attract new users and new contributors, and evaluating major design changes. We have put up a Web page that describes the mission and some of the specific goals of this group: http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu/Oversight.html Comments or suggestions are welcome; please send them to oversight at llvm.cs.uiuc.edu. --Vikram, Chris, Misha, and Reid
Hi OG, I think it first of all would be nice, if we could supplement this group with a discussion list on this topic. The reason for this isn't to ad more bureacracy, but to present public ideas and visions to a broader forum and I belive in that the more elaboration within a broader forum the better the ideas will get and the more people will get committed to start and finish the task. Moreover, as a side effect, the sooner some ideas get publish in the public the bigger are the chances that no one will get a patent on the idea. Off course the OG still decides the way llvm should go. Henrik. ============================================================Henrik Bach LLVM Open Source Developer e-mail: henrik_bach_llvm at hotmail.com ============================================================'Nothing is impossible; The impossible just takes longer time :)' - Inventor of a new energy saver light bulp from Denmark. No software patents - Thank you Poland: http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/en/m/intro/app0411.html Got Freedom? Software Freedom Day - 28th of August http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/ ============================================================ ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Vikram S. Adve" <vadve at cs.uiuc.edu> Reply-To: LLVM Developers Mailing List <llvmdev at cs.uiuc.edu> To: LLVM Developers Mailing List <llvmdev at cs.uiuc.edu> Subject: [LLVMdev] Oversight group for LLVM Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:34:37 -0600 Hello everyone, The LLVM project has evolved significantly since our first public release in Oct. 2003. Most importantly, we've gained many new users and several active contributors, and we want to encourage and support them and attract more. At the same time, the software itself has undergone some significant changes and improvements, and been ported to new platforms. We expect that both the community and the software will continue evolve significantly over time. We feel that this would be a good time to establish a small oversight group to manage the continued development, distribution, and community-building process for LLVM. Our broad aim is to foster the wider adoption and growth of LLVM, and encourage participation and contributions from both UIUC and non-UIUC users. We do *not* want to create a bureaucracy, and definitely don't want the oversight group to get involved in approving each patch or even significant check-ins. Instead, this group will focus on higher level issues like identifying problems and opportunities that make users' lives easier, finding ways to attract new users and new contributors, and evaluating major design changes. We have put up a Web page that describes the mission and some of the specific goals of this group: http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu/Oversight.html Comments or suggestions are welcome; please send them to oversight at llvm.cs.uiuc.edu. --Vikram, Chris, Misha, and Reid _______________________________________________ LLVM Developers mailing list LLVMdev at cs.uiuc.edu http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu http://mail.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/llvmdev _________________________________________________________________ F� alle de nye og sjove ikoner med MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.dk/
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Henrik Bach wrote:> I think it first of all would be nice, if we could supplement this group with > a discussion list on this topic. The reason for this isn't to ad more > bureacracy, but to present public ideas and visions to a broader forum and I > belive in that the more elaboration within a broader forum the better the > ideas will get and the more people will get committed to start and finish the > task.We will see how it goes, but I think almost everything will continue to be discussed on the main LLVMdev list. The idea isn't to create an opaque process that no one else understands or can impact. In my mind, there are two primary purposes of the group: 1. Give assurance of the long-term viability of LLVM. 2. Provide a way to arbitrate disagreements between developers. I feel that #1 is important to continue to attract new developers, particularly those in the commercial sector. #2 is important as LLVM grows, because more people working on a project have more chances for conflict. I hope and expect that the oversight group will end up being extremely low-volume. -Chris> ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Vikram S. Adve" <vadve at cs.uiuc.edu> > Reply-To: LLVM Developers Mailing List <llvmdev at cs.uiuc.edu> > To: LLVM Developers Mailing List <llvmdev at cs.uiuc.edu> > Subject: [LLVMdev] Oversight group for LLVM > Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:34:37 -0600 > > Hello everyone, > > The LLVM project has evolved significantly since our first public release in > Oct. 2003. Most importantly, we've gained many new users and several active > contributors, and we want to encourage and support them and attract more. > At the same time, the software itself has undergone some significant changes > and improvements, and been ported to new platforms. We expect that both the > community and the software will continue evolve significantly over time. > > We feel that this would be a good time to establish a small oversight group > to manage the continued development, distribution, and community-building > process for LLVM. Our broad aim is to foster the wider adoption and growth > of LLVM, and encourage participation and contributions from both UIUC and > non-UIUC users. We do *not* want to create a bureaucracy, and definitely > don't want the oversight group to get involved in approving each patch or > even significant check-ins. Instead, this group will focus on higher level > issues like identifying problems and opportunities that make users' lives > easier, finding ways to attract new users and new contributors, and > evaluating major design changes. > > We have put up a Web page that describes the mission and some of the specific > goals of this group: > http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu/Oversight.html > Comments or suggestions are welcome; please send them to > oversight at llvm.cs.uiuc.edu. > > --Vikram, Chris, Misha, and Reid > > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > LLVMdev at cs.uiuc.edu http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu > http://mail.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/llvmdev > > _________________________________________________________________ > F� alle de nye og sjove ikoner med MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.dk/ > > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > LLVMdev at cs.uiuc.edu http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu > http://mail.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/llvmdev >-Chris -- http://nondot.org/sabre/ http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu/