Hello all, I am running a coop satellite link for my aviation company here in Iraq. (silly blog www.stardotstar.org). I am running tc with htb with good success so far. I am working on improving it though and need some help. Currently I have just 4 classes, syn/ack/ping, webchat, http, and then other. We are really happy with how this has improved our ability to call home from our rooms and do video chat. However, I would like to do a better job of making sure that each IP is getting a fair share because it seems like sometimes one video or audio chat bullies another one into slowing down and one guy is having a great video and audio feed while someone elses audio only is suffering. I''ve seen some references to wrr and also to making a class for each IP. There doesn''t seem to be much current documention on wrr, so I''m trying to set up nested htbs. Here are my questions: 1. Which makes more sense, to nest my 4 classes of traffic inside of a class for each IP, or to make a class for each IP in each of my 4 classes. I''m leaning towards the latter so that someones web traffic can''t borrow from the interactive traffic classes. 2. I''ve done a test, and can''t get any traffic into the nested classes. Here is my code: #1:20 LOW DELAY--CHAT DATA #includes the minimize delay FW TOS tc class add dev ${UPDEV} parent 1:1 classid 1:20 htb rate 200kbit ceil ${UPCEIL}kbit burst 6k prio 1 tc filter add dev ${UPDEV} protocol ip parent 1: pref 20 u32\ match ip tos 0x10 0xff flowid 1:20 tc filter add dev ${UPDEV} protocol ip parent 1: pref 21 handle 5 fw classid 1:20 tc filter add dev ${UPDEV} protocol ip parent 1: pref 21 handle 6 fw classid 1:20 tc qdisc add dev ${UPDEV} parent 1:20 handle 120: sfq perturb 10 nextclass=2000 for clientip in `cat /etc/ethers | awk ''{ print $2 }''`; do tc class add dev ${UPDEV} parent 1:20 classid 1:${nextclass} htb rate ${CLIENTRATE}kbit ceil ${CLIENTCEIL}kbit tc filter add dev ${UPDEV} protocol ip parent 1:20 prio 1 u32 \ match ip src ${clientip} flowid 1:${nextclass} tc qdisc add dev ${UPDEV} parent 1:${nextclass} handle ${nextclass}: sfq perturb 10 #not sure if this is necessa ry ((nextclass++)) done I''m missing something, but not sure what. This code works as far as classes goes, just the filtering doesn''t get traffic into the nested classes. I''m on 2.6.11 gentoo. Sorry about the wrapping, I''ll look into setting nowrap on gmail. Thanks! Edward
Edward Smith wrote:> Hello all, > I am running a coop satellite link for my aviation company here in > Iraq. (silly blog www.stardotstar.org). I am running tc with htb > with good success so far. I am working on improving it though and > need some help. Currently I have just 4 classes, syn/ack/ping, > webchat, http, and then other. We are really happy with how this has > improved our ability to call home from our rooms and do video chat. > However, I would like to do a better job of making sure that each > IP is getting a fair share because it seems like sometimes one video > or audio chat bullies another one into slowing down and one guy is > having a great video and audio feed while someone elses audio only is > suffering. I''ve seen some references to wrr and also to making a > class for each IP. There doesn''t seem to be much current documention > on wrr, so I''m trying to set up nested htbs. Here are my questions: > > 1. Which makes more sense, to nest my 4 classes of traffic inside of a > class for each IP, or to make a class for each IP in each of my 4 > classes. I''m leaning towards the latter so that someones web traffic > can''t borrow from the interactive traffic classes.I would do the latter also. I would have just one interactive class and give it a rate that is say 3/4 of the ceil, the bulk classes can still borrow the unused.> > 2. I''ve done a test, and can''t get any traffic into the nested > classes. Here is my code: > > #1:20 LOW DELAY--CHAT DATA > #includes the minimize delay FW TOS > tc class add dev ${UPDEV} parent 1:1 classid 1:20 htb rate 200kbit > ceil ${UPCEIL}kbit burst 6k prio 1 > tc filter add dev ${UPDEV} protocol ip parent 1: pref 20 u32\ > match ip tos 0x10 0xff flowid 1:20 > tc filter add dev ${UPDEV} protocol ip parent 1: pref 21 handle 5 fw > classid 1:20 > tc filter add dev ${UPDEV} protocol ip parent 1: pref 21 handle 6 fw > classid 1:20> tc qdisc add dev ${UPDEV} parent 1:20 handle 120: sfq perturb 10 > nextclass=2000You don''t need this as it''s not a leaf.> for clientip in `cat /etc/ethers | awk ''{ print $2 }''`; > doIf clientip is local because you are NATing than it won''t work because traffic will have the real ip here. To work around you could use marks. As you already use them for some things you may want to use --or-mark and u32 to match them eg. iptables -A POSTROUTING -t mangle -p icmp -j MARK --set-mark 0x0100 and so on for traffic types using high byte then use low byte and --or-mark for addresses iptables -A POSTROUTING -t mangle -s 192.168.0.1 -j MARK --or-mark 0x0001 Then filter top level with a mask like tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1:0 protocol ip prio 1 u32 match mark 0x0100 0xff00 flowid 1:20 and leaf levels tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1:20 protocol ip prio 1 u32 match mark 0x0001 0x00ff flowid 1:200 That assumes you really need iptables for marking traffic type - if you could use tc filters for that, then just use iptables for the addresses.> tc class add dev ${UPDEV} parent 1:20 classid 1:${nextclass} > htb rate ${CLIENTRATE}kbit ceil ${CLIENTCEIL}kbit > tc filter add dev ${UPDEV} protocol ip parent 1:20 prio 1 u32 \ > match ip src ${clientip} flowid 1:${nextclass} > tc qdisc add dev ${UPDEV} parent 1:${nextclass} handle > ${nextclass}: sfq perturb 10 #not sure if this is necessa > ryI wouldn''t put sfq on interactive - I would add a bfifo so I could set and play with the buffer lengths. Andy.
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 00:02:42 +0100 Andy Furniss <andy.furniss@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:> Edward Smith wrote: > > Hello all, > > I am running a coop satellite link for my aviation company here in > > Iraq. (silly blog www.stardotstar.org). I am running tc with htb > > with good success so far. I am working on improving it though and > > need some help. Currently I have just 4 classes, syn/ack/ping, > > webchat, http, and then other. We are really happy with how this has > > improved our ability to call home from our rooms and do video chat. > > However, I would like to do a better job of making sure that each > > IP is getting a fair share because it seems like sometimes one video > > or audio chat bullies another one into slowing down and one guy is > > having a great video and audio feed while someone elses audio only is > > suffering. I''ve seen some references to wrr and also to making a > > class for each IP. There doesn''t seem to be much current documention > > on wrr, so I''m trying to set up nested htbs. Here are my questions: > > > > 1. Which makes more sense, to nest my 4 classes of traffic inside of a > > class for each IP, or to make a class for each IP in each of my 4 > > classes. I''m leaning towards the latter so that someones web traffic > > can''t borrow from the interactive traffic classes. > > I would do the latter also. I would have just one interactive class and > give it a rate that is say 3/4 of the ceil, the bulk classes can still > borrow the unused. > > > > 2. I''ve done a test, and can''t get any traffic into the nested > > classes. Here is my code: > > > > #1:20 LOW DELAY--CHAT DATA > > #includes the minimize delay FW TOS > > tc class add dev ${UPDEV} parent 1:1 classid 1:20 htb rate 200kbit > > ceil ${UPCEIL}kbit burst 6k prio 1 > > tc filter add dev ${UPDEV} protocol ip parent 1: pref 20 u32\ > > match ip tos 0x10 0xff flowid 1:20 > > tc filter add dev ${UPDEV} protocol ip parent 1: pref 21 handle 5 fw > > classid 1:20 > > tc filter add dev ${UPDEV} protocol ip parent 1: pref 21 handle 6 fw > > classid 1:20 >so marking is thing that i need for limiting NATed uploads to internet ? when limiting downloads i do not need marking ? am i right ? -- *Dariusz ''tdi'' Dwornikowski | Gentoo | admin at pozman.pl | *[JID]:tdi@gentoo.pl|[gg]:2266034|[IRC]:#gentoo-pl@freenode | *[MAIL]:tdi@pozman.pl|[WWW]:www.tdi.pozman.pl | *Serwery,administracja,webapps - www.ProAdmin.com.pl | *Fingerprint:43E21CC46DAFD2F754E91547D59B39F56AAA4B5F |
Dariusz Dwornikowski wrote:> so marking is thing that i need for limiting NATed uploads to internet ? > when limiting downloads i do not need marking ? > > am i right ?Yes as long as you are shaping downloads by shaping egress on the lan facing interface. Andy.
Andy Furniss wrote:> > > If clientip is local because you are NATing than it won''t work because > traffic will have the real ip here. > > To work around you could use marks. As you already use them for some > things you may want to use --or-mark and u32 to match them eg. > > iptables -A POSTROUTING -t mangle -p icmp -j MARK --set-mark 0x0100 > > and so on for traffic types using high byte then use low byte and > --or-mark for addresses > > iptables -A POSTROUTING -t mangle -s 192.168.0.1 -j MARK --or-mark 0x0001 > > Then filter top level with a mask like > > tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1:0 protocol ip prio 1 u32 match mark > 0x0100 0xff00 flowid 1:20 > > and leaf levels > > tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1:20 protocol ip prio 1 u32 match mark > 0x0001 0x00ff flowid 1:200 > > That assumes you really need iptables for marking traffic type - if you > could use tc filters for that, then just use iptables for the addresses.Something I''ve only just noticed from a comment in the code - htb can use mark without the need for lots of filters. You only need one empty filter on the root (maybe you can still nest) like - tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1:0 protocol ip prio 1 fw and then if you arrange for your classes to be the same minor numbers as the marks it will behave like using classify. You need to set the major number of your htb (1 in example above) in the top 16 bits of the mark. There is also a netfilter pom-ng patch IPMARK that will set marks based on ipaddress. Andy.
> I wouldn''t put sfq on interactive - I would add a bfifo so I could set > and play with the buffer lengths.I agree. I think SFQ might reorder packets? It sometimes seems to cause some difficult to trace gremlins on my VoIP stuff, which might be due to packet re-ordering? Best to stick with a bfifo I think Ed W