Icecast - Feb 2013 - Icecast relay as a source to another icecast?

I have a situation where I'd like to be able to have icecast reach out to 
another icecast server as a client. Is this possible with relaying? From 
what I read relaying and master relaying both have the server reach out to 
another server.

The reason is this.

I have a hardware encoder (Telos audioactive) sitting on a cablemodem.

I have a remote provider (streamcheap or something) set to relay the telos 
unit.

It works, but eventually traffic on my cablemodem or other situations 
cause the remote to disconnect. It never is able to reconnect again for 
some reason.

I changed it where I have the telos unit talking to a local icecast 
server. Then the remote server currently relays by connecting into my 
local icecast server. This part works (as it did directly to the telos 
unit) but drops off just like before. I don't have full control over the 
remote end and I don't know why it isn't relaying. But with the local 
icecast server I was able to validate that it's 100% stable and doesn't 
disconnect / fail to reconnect to the audioactive unit.

Hi,

On 27/02/13 08:42, telmnstr at 757.org wrote:
> I have a situation where I'd like to be able to have icecast reach out
to
> another icecast server as a client. Is this possible with relaying? From
> what I read relaying and master relaying both have the server reach out to
> another server.
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Your best bet in such a case is to use an external solution.
I'd probably go with liquidsoap as that should be able to take the 
stream as is and just push it to the remote server.

Other software like roaraudio/RPLD, mpd, gstreamer, xmms2 etc would 
probably work too, but I'm not sure which can do it without putting the 
stream through a decode/encode cycle.

Cheers

Thomas

> Your best bet in such a case is to use an external solution.
> I'd probably go with liquidsoap as that should be able to take the
> stream as is and just push it to the remote server.
Ah cool! I'll look into it. I wasn't aware of it, but am reading the 
wikipedia article on it now. I'm always looking for tools for this kind of 
stuff.

The automation software that is sending the audio to the encoder also 
triggers scripts that talk directly to icecast to update the stream title 
with current song and what not. It's beaufitul when it's all running.
> Other software like roaraudio/RPLD, mpd, gstreamer, xmms2 etc would
> probably work too, but I'm not sure which can do it without putting the
> stream through a decode/encode cycle.
Cool! Will check into those. Wasn't aware they exist. I've been using 
Darkice and icecast forever, and recently moved to the hardware encoder 
and icecast.

 		- Ethan

> Your best bet in such a case is to use an external solution.
> I'd probably go with liquidsoap as that should be able to take the
> stream as is and just push it to the remote server.
Apparently Liquidsoap cannot forward an icecast stream without 
re-encoding.

As nutty as it seems, VLC might be the solution with the acopy operator. I 
need to look into the icecast output plugin to make sure it can do copy 
and not encode.

Damn you VLC. You're command lines are painful but you're oh so handy.

Hello Ethan.

El mi?, 27-02-2013 a las 01:42 -0500, telmnstr at 757.org
escribi?:
> I have a situation where I'd like to be able to have icecast reach out
to
> another icecast server as a client. Is this possible with relaying? From 
> what I read relaying and master relaying both have the server reach out to 
> another server.
> 
> The reason is this.
> 
> I have a hardware encoder (Telos audioactive) sitting on a cablemodem.
> 
> I have a remote provider (streamcheap or something) set to relay the telos 
> unit.
> 
> It works, but eventually traffic on my cablemodem or other situations 
> cause the remote to disconnect. It never is able to reconnect again for 
> some reason.
> 
> I changed it where I have the telos unit talking to a local icecast 
> server. Then the remote server currently relays by connecting into my 
> local icecast server. This part works (as it did directly to the telos 
> unit) but drops off just like before. I don't have full control over
the
> remote end and I don't know why it isn't relaying. But with the
local
> icecast server I was able to validate that it's 100% stable and
doesn't
> disconnect / fail to reconnect to the audioactive unit.
> 
I've used VLC to receive signals from other servers, Ices2 as source
cliente and Icecast2 as server, all in one computer, functioning as a
signal repeater.

There were no problems with reconnections.

Also I have used bash programs to detect when the remote signal falls
definitively and then replace this by some other until the main signal
return.

Jos? Luis
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