Icecast - Jan 2005 - range support / stream seeking not supported byWinamp 5 and WMP 10?

Thanks for your response oddcast.
> >Range support / stream seeking seems to work with RealPlayer v10, but
not
> >with Winamp 5 or Windows Media Player 10.
> >Does anyone else have this experience? Is there a way to make it work
in
> >those two players also?
> hrmm..It works for me using winamp 5.05 and WMP 10.  What type of file are
> you testing with ?  The winamp plugin doesn't work perfectly in some
cases
> (it gets a bit confused sometimes with VBR files), WMP 10 works perfectly
> however.  Do you get a seek bar in winamp/WMP when playing on demand
> (static files) ?
The file is not VBR, it is 24kbs 16kHz, mono mp3 file. It may be available
at http://streams.audioserver.nl:8080/recordings/testpreek.mp3

Ok, I've found part of the problem. I'm using the THOMSON mp3PRO Decoder
v1.2 plugin on Winamp 5.05. It appears that this plug-in doesn't support
stream seeking. After disabling the mp3PRO plugin, it worked like a charm in
Winamp 5.05 (now using the Nullsoft MPEG Audio Decoder 3.04).

WMP 10 works sort-of. When I open the URL mentioned above, WMP 10 simple
downloads the complete file in the background while starting to play
immediately. However, you can only seek in the part that has already been
downloaded.

I've tried both the direct link to the file and the .m3u version:
http://streams.audioserver.nl:8080/recordings/testpreek.mp3.m3u

Any hints are welcome..

Cheers,
KJ

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oddsock
Verzonden: dinsdag 4 januari 2005 15:28
Aan: icecast@xiph.org
Onderwerp: Re: [Icecast] range support / stream seeking not supported
byWinamp 5 and WMP 10?


At 07:53 AM 1/4/2005, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I was just checking out icecast-2.2.0. You guys have done a great job yet
>again!
>
>I was interested in the range support / stream seeking on static files,
>since that would be a really useful feature for my clients.
>
>Range support / stream seeking seems to work with RealPlayer v10, but not
>with Winamp 5 or Windows Media Player 10.
>Does anyone else have this experience? Is there a way to make it work in
>those two players also?
hrmm..It works for me using winamp 5.05 and WMP 10.  What type of file are
you testing with ?  The winamp plugin doesn't work perfectly in some cases
(it gets a bit confused sometimes with VBR files), WMP 10 works perfectly
however.  Do you get a seek bar in winamp/WMP when playing on demand
(static files) ?

oddsock


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At 11:58 AM 1/4/2005, you wrote:
>The file is not VBR, it is 24kbs 16kHz, mono mp3 file. It may be available
>at http://streams.audioserver.nl:8080/recordings/testpreek.mp3
>
>Ok, I've found part of the problem. I'm using the THOMSON mp3PRO
Decoder
>v1.2 plugin on Winamp 5.05. It appears that this plug-in doesn't support
>stream seeking. After disabling the mp3PRO plugin, it worked like a charm in
>Winamp 5.05 (now using the Nullsoft MPEG Audio Decoder 3.04).
>
>WMP 10 works sort-of. When I open the URL mentioned above, WMP 10 simple
>downloads the complete file in the background while starting to play
>immediately. However, you can only seek in the part that has already been
>downloaded.
well, looks like you are at the mercy of the media player 
implementation.  Looks like winamp does do proper range seeking, but WMP 
does not.  Although the term "proper range seeking" is a subjective 
term.  From an icecast point of view, we are implementing it properly.

oddsock

> well, looks like you are at the mercy of the media player 
> implementation.  Looks like winamp does do proper range seeking, but WMP 
> does not.  Although the term "proper range seeking" is a
subjective
> term.  From an icecast point of view, we are implementing it properly.
I agree with you totally. Icecast is doing a good job.
I'll gladly advise my clients to use Winamp instead of WMP :-)

Thanks for your help.

KJ