On 31 May 2003 at 13:50, Karl Heyes wrote:> On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 13:12, Stefan Neufeind wrote: > > > Patents: > > Well okay, if you transcode mp3s or something this might a patent- > > question (since you'd maybe have to license an encoder ... but not > > under all cases!!!). But sending mp3-files "as is" to the server > > shouldn't require too many changes - or am I wrong? I mean, no > > transcoding or something at all - just sending to the server and > > finished. What patents are you "fearing"? > > Bear in mind decoding is also subject to patent licensing. Sending > as-is won't be a problem from a patent point of view, just from a > coding point of view and how it fits in with the config file.ACK!> > Multiple apps talking to icecast2: > > What do you mean? Still stick to ices-0.2.3-cvs? Well, if > > mp3-support really worked. As said before there were problems > > reported - and I experienced problems myself. So I wonder if it is > > easier to update ices-2.x to support mp3 since it's actively > > maintained. > > icecast2 supports multiple individual sources, so your not tied to one > source application.Yes but ices-0.2.3-cvs seems to have problems, ices-2.x doesn't yet support mp3. And all other tools I can find are only for shoutcast- or icecast-servers. Sure i could send mp3-stream to a shoutcast just to relay it from an icecast2 ... but ... :-) --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Hi: My understanding was that the ices 0.x app was still being maintained. If it doesn't work with icecast2, and I've not personally tried it, then there's some problem with either ices 0.x or icecast2 and it needs to be fixed. icecast2 should also accept shoutcast-style MP3 streams as well, and again if this doesn't work, it's a bug that needs fixing. I don't see a lot of point adding MP3 output support to ices 2.x. Ices 0.x does MP3, ices 2.x does ogg. Seems simple enough. Ices 0.x will even read ogg files. There's an argument for enabling MP3 input support for ices 2.x, but as has been said already, patent issues are a problem now that decoders need to be licensed, so I don't expect to see it. Geoff. <p> -- Geoff Shang <gshang@uq.net.au> ICQ number 43634701 Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Saturday, 31 May 2003 at 15:00, Stefan Neufeind wrote:> Yes but ices-0.2.3-cvs seems to have problems, ices-2.x doesn't yet > support mp3. And all other tools I can find are only for shoutcast- > or icecast-servers. Sure i could send mp3-stream to a shoutcast just > to relay it from an icecast2 ... but ... :-)I've tested ices 0 against icecast 2 many times with no problems. It should work. Please describe your setup and any error messages from ices or icecast. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 13:12, Stefan Neufeind wrote:> Patents: > Well okay, if you transcode mp3s or something this might a patent- > question (since you'd maybe have to license an encoder ... but not > under all cases!!!). But sending mp3-files "as is" to the server > shouldn't require too many changes - or am I wrong? I mean, no > transcoding or something at all - just sending to the server and > finished. What patents are you "fearing"?Bear in mind decoding is also subject to patent licensing. Sending as-is won't be a problem from a patent point of view, just from a coding point of view and how it fits in with the config file.> Multiple apps talking to icecast2: > What do you mean? Still stick to ices-0.2.3-cvs? Well, if mp3-support > really worked. As said before there were problems reported - and I > experienced problems myself. So I wonder if it is easier to update > ices-2.x to support mp3 since it's actively maintained.icecast2 supports multiple individual sources, so your not tied to one source application. karl. <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.