At 10:16 AM 11/11/2002 +0000, you wrote:>Hi folks > >Got Icecast2 running on Redhat8 with IceS2 as a source, streaming some OGG >files. All works nicely (not _especially_ reliable :) but it seems to lock >up the Freedomaudio java player between tracks.Please, if you have reliability problems, submit bug reports! There's no other way these will get fixed. http://bugs.xiph.org/>Everytime a new file begins, the player stops and says 'Loading'. >I'm wondering if it's somehthing to do with metadata - >is there a way of disabling metadata from IceS2? (i.e. just the track >title changes?)No (this is a serious client bug, chained streams are a required part of Vorbis I).>Works fine in Winamp - does IceS2 actually disconnect the source between >tracks though?No.> >Finally, can anyone suggest a source client that does wot IceS2 does, but >that can 'crossfade' ogg tracks? Preferrably with scriptable playlists :)Crossfading is horribly annoying, please don't do it. Obviously, any software which DOES do it has to be reencoding at runtime, rather than just sending the playlist contents. Degrades quality, uses a lot of cpu, and then the crossfading itself is just irritating. Michael <p><p><p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Hi folks Got Icecast2 running on Redhat8 with IceS2 as a source, streaming some OGG files. All works nicely (not _especially_ reliable :) but it seems to lock up the Freedomaudio java player between tracks. Everytime a new file begins, the player stops and says 'Loading'. I'm wondering if it's somehthing to do with metadata - is there a way of disabling metadata from IceS2? (i.e. just the track title changes?) Works fine in Winamp - does IceS2 actually disconnect the source between tracks though? Finally, can anyone suggest a source client that does wot IceS2 does, but that can 'crossfade' ogg tracks? Preferrably with scriptable playlists :) Cheers. <p>Leo <p><p><p><p><p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On 2002.11.11 10:16 Leo Currie wrote:> Hi folks > > Got Icecast2 running on Redhat8 with IceS2 as a source, streaming some OGG > files. All works nicely (not _especially_ reliable :) but it seems to lock > up the Freedomaudio java player between tracks.Is it just the java player that seems to be unreliable. There is a couple of outstanding bugs in ices for network socket error cases, but the fixes these are with Mike.> Everytime a new file begins, the player stops and says 'Loading'. > I'm wondering if it's somehthing to do with metadata - > is there a way of disabling metadata from IceS2? (i.e. just the track > title changes?)With each file, the initial headers get sent (one of which contains the comments - metadata). If it's the comments that's causing this then it sounds like the java player is expecting a particular comment and not receiving it. Use ogginfo to compare the files comments. Failing that it doesn't know how to parse the changes within streams.> Works fine in Winamp - does IceS2 actually disconnect the source between > tracks though?nope. The encoding engine is restarted and the headers are sent, but the stream is still connected.> Finally, can anyone suggest a source client that does wot IceS2 does, but > that can 'crossfade' ogg tracks? Preferrably with scriptable playlists :)Don't know of any that do crossfade. karl. --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Geoff Shang wrote:>On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Leo Currie wrote: > >>Finally, can anyone suggest a source client that does wot IceS2 does, but >>that can 'crossfade' ogg tracks? Preferrably with scriptable playlists :) >> >> > >Not that I've come across. I know of one that's not yet released that has >a bunch of neat features, including all this and more. > >Geoff. > >Sounds exciting :) Has anyone tried making Liveice feed output to Ices2 for Ogg encoding? Or is there an easier way of doing it? <p>Leo> ><p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
Karl Heyes wrote:> Is it just the java player that seems to be unreliable. There is a > couple > of outstanding bugs in ices for network socket error cases, but the fixes > these are with Mike.I'm not entirely sure. Certainly, playback is flawless with Winamp. Every now and then, Ices seems to just stop, and swallow up all my CPU. I'm not sure if this was caused by my playlist having non-existant file entries, or whether it was caused by me trying to make it play mp3's. In any case, it's been running all night (almost 9 hours now..) without problems, so perhaps it was just the phase of the moon... What sort of continuous running times can I expect? (For Ices i mean - icecast seems fine)> With each file, the initial headers get sent (one of which contains the > comments - metadata). If it's the comments that's causing this then it > sounds like the java player is expecting a particular comment and not > receiving it. Use ogginfo to compare the files comments. Failing that > it doesn't know how to parse the changes within streams.I will mail the Freedomaudio people and see what they say. Thanks a lot for the info. <p>Leo --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Leo Currie wrote:> Got Icecast2 running on Redhat8 with IceS2 as a source, streaming some OGG > files. All works nicely (not _especially_ reliable :)Do you have any reliability issues other than what you've mentioned? for the most part, I've found ices and icecast to be pretty stable.> but it seems to lock > up the Freedomaudio java player between tracks. > Everytime a new file begins, the player stops and says 'Loading'. > I'm wondering if it's somehthing to do with metadata -Sounds like it doesn't like chained ogg streams.> is there a way of disabling metadata from IceS2? (i.e. just the track > title changes?)Not that I know of. Besides, this is meant to work properly, so that player mustn't be compliant.> Works fine in Winamp - does IceS2 actually disconnect the source between > tracks though?No.> Finally, can anyone suggest a source client that does wot IceS2 does, but > that can 'crossfade' ogg tracks? Preferrably with scriptable playlists :)Not that I've come across. I know of one that's not yet released that has a bunch of neat features, including all this and more. Geoff. <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.