> Steve Lhomme wrote: > > You might try to contact the makers of FruityLoops. Right now their > samples packs are in Ogg format (stored in a WAV IIRC). They like open > and free formats (they also use the LAME encoder).I've thought of doing lossy compression before on instruments, but I'd much rather stick to lossless, at least for now. There are issues to be sorted out when doing lossy compression, specifically in regards to loop points. It would be nice to get the nice compression ratios that Ogg has to offer, but in the world of high quality instruments, I don't think it makes as much sense. I'll leave some expansion to allow for something like this to be implemented in the future, though. Cheers. Josh Green
--- tech@bishop.dhs.org wrote:> On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 08:34:05PM -0800, Josh Green wrote: > > > Steve Lhomme wrote: > > > > > > You might try to contact the makers of FruityLoops. Right now > their > > > samples packs are in Ogg format (stored in a WAV IIRC). They like > open > > > and free formats (they also use the LAME encoder). > > > > I've thought of doing lossy compression before on instruments, but > I'd > > much rather stick to lossless, at least for now. There are issues > to be > > sorted out when doing lossy compression, specifically in regards to > loop > > points. It would be nice to get the nice compression ratios that > Ogg has > > to offer, but in the world of high quality instruments, I don't > think it > > makes as much sense. I'll leave some expansion to allow for > something > > like this to be implemented in the future, though. Cheers. > > Josh Green > > Actually, if you look closer, he said that the audio format was WAV > (not > vorbis), but the container was ogg. And, as you probably know, there > is > support to have FLAC in an ogg container. So it would definetly make > sense to talk to them about your project.I'm not sure about that... the only way "samples packs are in Ogg format (stored in a WAV IIRC)" makes sense is if you substitute "Vorbis" for "Ogg" since Ogg is just a container and it doesn't seem that useful to store Ogg-anything in a WAVE file. It would be possible to store raw Vorbis in WAVE chunks though. Josh __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 08:34:05PM -0800, Josh Green wrote:> > Steve Lhomme wrote: > > > > You might try to contact the makers of FruityLoops. Right now their > > samples packs are in Ogg format (stored in a WAV IIRC). They like open > > and free formats (they also use the LAME encoder). > > I've thought of doing lossy compression before on instruments, but I'd > much rather stick to lossless, at least for now. There are issues to be > sorted out when doing lossy compression, specifically in regards to loop > points. It would be nice to get the nice compression ratios that Ogg has > to offer, but in the world of high quality instruments, I don't think it > makes as much sense. I'll leave some expansion to allow for something > like this to be implemented in the future, though. Cheers. > Josh GreenActually, if you look closer, he said that the audio format was WAV (not vorbis), but the container was ogg. And, as you probably know, there is support to have FLAC in an ogg container. So it would definetly make sense to talk to them about your project. Just to clarify :-) D.A.Bishop
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:41:56AM -0700, tech@bishop.dhs.org wrote:> On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 08:34:05PM -0800, Josh Green wrote: > > > Steve Lhomme wrote: > > > > > > You might try to contact the makers of FruityLoops. Right now their > > > samples packs are in Ogg format (stored in a WAV IIRC). They like open > > > and free formats (they also use the LAME encoder). > > > > I've thought of doing lossy compression before on instruments, but I'd > > much rather stick to lossless, at least for now. There are issues to be > > sorted out when doing lossy compression, specifically in regards to loop > > points. It would be nice to get the nice compression ratios that Ogg has > > to offer, but in the world of high quality instruments, I don't think it > > makes as much sense. I'll leave some expansion to allow for something > > like this to be implemented in the future, though. Cheers. > > Actually, if you look closer, he said that the audio format was WAV (not > vorbis), but the container was ogg. And, as you probably know, there is > support to have FLAC in an ogg container. So it would definetly make > sense to talk to them about your project. > > Just to clarify :-)Actually, I believe FruityLoops uses Vorbis streams stored in a WAV "container". Saying "Ogg" where one means "Vorbis" is a common error. -- - mdz