Often enough, even on the periodic fsck's that occur every so-many mounts, the fsck will fail and leave me in a shell. On the Debian boot, I am already logged in as root and the root filesystem is mounted read-only. I then need to run fsck -f [/mnt/hd....] manually -f forces. It will go through a series of checks. Usually, it simply ends and I do the control D and everything is clean. --------------------------- If something has occured like a hangup or power off, the journal recovery itself might give me warnings about delete inodes, etc. Thankfully, all is "clean" afterwards. Ext3 has been good to me so far :-)