On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:23:38AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:> And last but not least: I got used to some way of interaction with computer, > and that way is most productive for me after very long use. I don't want to > blend in iPad generation, I want to stay productive which I am. So, I use > Mutt (on FreeBSD, which my workstation runs, it is so easy and > straightforward to install and maintain Mutt).Nothing stopping you from using mutt on a CentOS system, regardless of what desktop environment you use, just as email clients such as Evolution and kmail can run in other desktop environments. It's too bad that Mutt doesn't support GMail's authentication well (except by turning on the insecure password authentication, App Passwords are disabled in my work email account). You can kinda get it working with the oauth2 support but it requires you set up an OAuth client ID and client secret first, which I don't have access to for work account. I really like mutt and prefer it to webmail. -- Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>
On 2019-10-18 10:27, Jonathan Billings wrote:> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:23:38AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> And last but not least: I got used to some way of interaction with computer, >> and that way is most productive for me after very long use. I don't want to >> blend in iPad generation, I want to stay productive which I am. So, I use >> Mutt (on FreeBSD, which my workstation runs, it is so easy and >> straightforward to install and maintain Mutt).I corrected myself, I meant above: Mate (desktop). The Desktop Environment that is behaving and interacting with me the old fashioned way I became productive using since forever.> > Nothing stopping you from using mutt on a CentOS system, regardless of > what desktop environment you use, just as email clients such as > Evolution and kmail can run in other desktop environments. > > It's too bad that Mutt doesn't support GMail's authentication wellAnd no, I don't use gmail anything, I know you are a wast majority who don't care, so, I'll not explain, and will stop right here. Valeri> (except by turning on the insecure password authentication, App > Passwords are disabled in my work email account). You can kinda get > it working with the oauth2 support but it requires you set up an OAuth > client ID and client secret first, which I don't have access to for > work account. I really like mutt and prefer it to webmail. >-- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:36:25AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:> > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:23:38AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > And last but not least: I got used to some way of interaction with computer, > > > and that way is most productive for me after very long use. I don't want to > > > blend in iPad generation, I want to stay productive which I am. So, I use > > > Mutt (on FreeBSD, which my workstation runs, it is so easy and > > > straightforward to install and maintain Mutt).Another (these days neo) mutt lover. I'll take this time to spam my own http://srobb.net/mutt.html page. Mutt does work with gmail. Hrrm, I'm looking I see I do have the password used in my msmtprc file. If one just uses a very simple muttrc file file, it will also work but require the password. set smtp_url="smtp://scott at gmail.com@smtp.gmail.com:587" set smtp_pass="scottisawesome" set ssl_starttls=yes I feel that everyone should use scottisawesome as their password though some foolish people disagree. But (I am not 100% sure) it seems that those 3 lines were all I needed back when I did it that way (Nowadays I have a slightly more complex setup as I have too many email accounts like everyone else in the world). -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:36:25AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:> On 2019-10-18 10:27, Jonathan Billings wrote: > > It's too bad that Mutt doesn't support GMail's authentication well > And no, I don't use gmail anything, I know you are a wast majority who don't > care, so, I'll not explain, and will stop right here.Doesn't matter. Work uses gmail (Google Apps for Education) and so I literally have no choice. -- Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>
> > > On 2019-10-18 10:27, Jonathan Billings wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:23:38AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> And last but not least: I got used to some way of interaction with >>> computer, >>> and that way is most productive for me after very long use. I don't >>> want to >>> blend in iPad generation, I want to stay productive which I am. So, I >>> use >>> Mutt (on FreeBSD, which my workstation runs, it is so easy and >>> straightforward to install and maintain Mutt). > > I corrected myself, I meant above: Mate (desktop). The Desktop > Environment that is behaving and interacting with me the old fashioned > way I became productive using since forever.But hey, why in the world you want it easy when you can have it complicated, super modern and sucking your work time?> >> >> Nothing stopping you from using mutt on a CentOS system, regardless of >> what desktop environment you use, just as email clients such as >> Evolution and kmail can run in other desktop environments. >> >> It's too bad that Mutt doesn't support GMail's authentication well > And no, I don't use gmail anything, I know you are a wast majority who > don't care, so, I'll not explain, and will stop right here.As you, I'm trying to keep my life ungoogled as much as I can. Just to explain it has always been a pain. I'll use your words above in future :-) Regards, Simon