On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:36:25AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:> > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:23:38AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > And last but not least: I got used to some way of interaction with computer, > > > and that way is most productive for me after very long use. I don't want to > > > blend in iPad generation, I want to stay productive which I am. So, I use > > > Mutt (on FreeBSD, which my workstation runs, it is so easy and > > > straightforward to install and maintain Mutt).Another (these days neo) mutt lover. I'll take this time to spam my own http://srobb.net/mutt.html page. Mutt does work with gmail. Hrrm, I'm looking I see I do have the password used in my msmtprc file. If one just uses a very simple muttrc file file, it will also work but require the password. set smtp_url="smtp://scott at gmail.com@smtp.gmail.com:587" set smtp_pass="scottisawesome" set ssl_starttls=yes I feel that everyone should use scottisawesome as their password though some foolish people disagree. But (I am not 100% sure) it seems that those 3 lines were all I needed back when I did it that way (Nowadays I have a slightly more complex setup as I have too many email accounts like everyone else in the world). -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6
> On Oct 18, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Scott Robbins <scottro11 at gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:36:25AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> >>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:23:38AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>>> And last but not least: I got used to some way of interaction with computer, >>>> and that way is most productive for me after very long use. I don't want to >>>> blend in iPad generation, I want to stay productive which I am. So, I use >>>> Mutt (on FreeBSD, which my workstation runs, it is so easy and >>>> straightforward to install and maintain Mutt). >Guys, I corrected myself: I meant Mate desktop above (related to somebody?s list of reasons why he needs Desktop environment - DE - he needs). However, someone?s creative editing threw away context, namely that what I said was related to DE descussion. Thanks for hints about mutt which I use. Hints may be helpfult to those who use gmail, not me who doesn?t use google anything. I skip mentioning why, as you, vast majority do use google, and don?t care about the reasons why I don?t. Valeri> Another (these days neo) mutt lover. I'll take this time to spam my own > http://srobb.net/mutt.html page. > > Mutt does work with gmail. Hrrm, I'm looking I see I do have the password > used in my msmtprc file. If one just uses a very simple muttrc file file, > it will also work but require the password. > > set smtp_url="smtp://scott at gmail.com@smtp.gmail.com:587" > set smtp_pass="scottisawesome" > set ssl_starttls=yes > > I feel that everyone should use scottisawesome as their password though > some foolish people disagree. But (I am not 100% sure) it seems that those > 3 lines were all I needed back when I did it that way (Nowadays I have a > slightly more complex setup as I have too many email accounts like everyone > else in the world). > > -- > Scott Robbins > PGP keyID EB3467D6 > ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) > gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:42:22AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:> > > > On Oct 18, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Scott Robbins <scottro11 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:36:25AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >> > >> > >>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:23:38AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >>>> And last but not least: I got used to some way of interaction with computer, > >>>> and that way is most productive for me after very long use. I don't want to > >>>> blend in iPad generation, I want to stay productive which I am. So, I use > >>>> Mutt (on FreeBSD, which my workstation runs, it is so easy and > >>>> straightforward to install and maintain Mutt). > > > > Guys, I corrected myself: I meant Mate desktop above (related to somebody?s list of reasons why he needs Desktop environment - DE - he needs). However, someone?s creative editing threw away context, namely that what I said was related to DE descussion.If I was the creative editor I most sincerely apologize. It wasn't my aim to change meaning, I trim in an effort to make it easier for others to read stuff. So if it was me, feel free to chastize me either publicly or privately and please accept my apologie. Most sincerely, -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 12:34:59PM -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:> Mutt does work with gmail. Hrrm, I'm looking I see I do have the password > used in my msmtprc file. If one just uses a very simple muttrc file file, > it will also work but require the password.Of course I'm aware that mutt an use IMAP and SMTP passwords. So, there are hosted Gmail services, and you can turn on/off certain settings. One of the settings you can turn off is App Passwords (which means you'd have to use your main password for IMAP/SMTP) and it is considered a security risk to have IMAP/SMTP passwords enabled, so I have it turned off. Most high-level email clients let you set up authentication by using Google's OAuth2 endpoint. Mutt has some very minimal support for this, but it requires creating your own custom google client IDs and secrets, and I don't have access to the domain to do that. -- Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>