CentOS - Oct 2018 - Future Releases (was: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

Good afternoon from Singapore,

What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

Is systemd implemented in all the latest Linux distros?

Please advise. Thank you.     
 
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On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 05:54 +0000, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
wrote:
> Good afternoon from Singapore,
> 
> What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?
> 
> Is systemd implemented in all the latest Linux distros?
> 
> Please advise. Thank you.     
>  
I really think you are asking in the wrong place - this, in case you
hadn't realised, is a mailing list for CentOS Linux. It is not a
general Linux mailing list. Although many people here are very
knowledgeable about Linux, general questions about Linux really must be
classed as off-topic.

P.

On 10/16/18 1:54 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
wrote:
> Good afternoon from Singapore,
>
> What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?
>
> Is systemd implemented in all the latest Linux distros?
>
> Please advise. Thank you.
>   
>
My advice is to go and read up on the original design goals of systemd.? 
The information is out there.? We had this discussion here years ago 
when we were staring and the impending transition.

Read the archives on the angst the change engendered and the adjustment 
to the new methodology.

They say that the Internet never forgets, so you should be able to find 
the original discussions and make your own judgment call.

Systemd is implemented in all the major distros, if you want to find ones that
don't search for non-systemd.


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On 10/16/18 1:54 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
wrote:
> Good afternoon from Singapore,
>
> What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?
>
> Is systemd implemented in all the latest Linux distros?
>
> Please advise. Thank you.
>
>
My advice is to go and read up on the original design goals of systemd.
The information is out there.  We had this discussion here years ago
when we were staring and the impending transition.

Read the archives on the angst the change engendered and the adjustment
to the new methodology.

They say that the Internet never forgets, so you should be able to find
the original discussions and make your own judgment call.


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On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 05:54:29AM +0000, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

Troll bait removed.

Congrats, folks.  You fell for it.

This was also troll-posted to fedora-users within seconds of this post.





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On 2018-10-16, John R. Dennison <jrd at gerdesas.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 05:54:29AM +0000, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
w> rote:
>
> Troll bait removed.
>
> Congrats, folks.  You fell for it.
>
> This was also troll-posted to fedora-users within seconds of this post.
It was also troll-posted to ubuntu-users, this is certainly not the first
time this user has done so, and AFAICT he has never responded to people
asking questions about his initial posts.  Can a list moderator please
remove this user and block him from returning (or, perhaps, leave him
subscribed but disable posting)?  He's pretty clearly a troll.

--keith

-- 
kkeller at wombat.san-francisco.ca.us

<snip>

Every couple of months we seem to get a systemd usage discussion on this
list.

But really, discussions whether to use systemd (or anything else in the
RHEL source code) really isn't appropriate here .. because, we rebuild
what is released as source code for RHEL.  If Red Hat decided to shift
from the Linux Kernel to the Windows 10 kernel (or the Free BSD Kernel,
or a Mac OS Kernel or whatever).. and if it was open source .. then the
CentOS kernel would shift to that as well.  CentOS is a rebuild of the
RHEL source code .. therefore, it will contain whatever is released in
RHEL in our base OS.

Also, someone said we were 'forcing' them to use something they
didn't
want to use.  That is actually quite hilarious .. since CentOS is
completely free and no one HAS to use it for anything at all.  It is
also open source .. so you can use only the parts you want, and build
and use anything else with it that you want if you don't like certain
pieces of it.

The bottom line .. we don't make the decision whether or not to use
systemd or not.  We rebuild RHEL source code.



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On 18.10.2018 00:08, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> The bottom line .. we don't make the decision whether or not to use
> systemd or not.  We rebuild RHEL source code.
will there come a CentOS 6.11 which will be capable of TLS1.3 or HTTP/2?
I'm sure there will come a CentOS 8, but when is it probable to be released?

one of the most important things (for me), as I already noticed there 
will be quite differences
between CentOS 6 and CentOS 7, not only systemd or not, also Apache 2.2 
and 2.4
and many other;
the config files won't be the same, will there be a migrate helper or 
something like this
which does the config conversion to get a CentOS 7 or maybe then CentOS 8
that does exact the same things the old CentOS 6 did?

Greetings
Walter