CentOS - Nov 2017 - skypeforlinux lacks dependencies, won't update

On 11/19/2017 12:53 PM, vychytraly . wrote:
> Maybe try flatpak version? there should be no problems with dependencies
> there... :)
Thanks, I didn't know about flatpak... even tho it's in the base repo!? 
I have to admit though, after reading through the flatpak website about 
it, I still don't understand how it could overcome the dependency 
problem with the skypeforlinux update.? Grateful for enlightenment.

>
> On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 7:02 PM, ken <gebser at mousecar.com> wrote:
>
>> For about a week now yum has tried and failed to update skypeforlinux:
>>
>> Packages skipped because of dependency problems:
>>      skypeforlinux-8.10.0.4-1.x86_64 from skype-stable
>>
>> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.20)(64bit) for
package:
>> skypeforlinux-8.10.0.4-1.x86_64
>>
>> Is there any resolution to this issue?
>>
>>
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ken wrote:
> On 11/19/2017 12:53 PM, vychytraly . wrote:
>> Maybe try flatpak version? there should be no problems with
dependencies
>> there... :)
>
> Thanks, I didn't know about flatpak... even tho it's in the base
repo!?
> I have to admit though, after reading through the flatpak website about
> it, I still don't understand how it could overcome the dependency
> problem with the skypeforlinux update.? Grateful for enlightenment.
>
>
Unrelated comment: I was interested to see that there is a current skype
for linux.

Then I remembered that M$ is scanning skype connections, the same way
google scans your gmail emails.....

       mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: CentOS [mailto:centos-bounces at centos.org] On Behalf Of ken
> Sent: den 22 november 2017 20:14
> To: centos at centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] skypeforlinux lacks dependencies, won't update
>
> On 11/19/2017 12:53 PM, vychytraly . wrote:
> > Maybe try flatpak version? there should be no problems with
> dependencies
> > there... :)
>
> Thanks, I didn't know about flatpak... even tho it's in the base
repo!
> I have to admit though, after reading through the flatpak website about
> it, I still don't understand how it could overcome the dependency
> problem with the skypeforlinux update.  Grateful for enlightenment.
>
>
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 7:02 PM, ken <gebser at mousecar.com>
wrote:
> >
> >> For about a week now yum has tried and failed to update
skypeforlinux:
> >>
> >> Packages skipped because of dependency problems:
> >>      skypeforlinux-8.10.0.4-1.x86_64 from skype-stable
> >>
> >> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.20)(64bit) for
> package:
> >> skypeforlinux-8.10.0.4-1.x86_64
> >>
> >> Is there any resolution to this issue?
Please excuse the sidetrack.

I had to do a Skype-meeting yesterday evening. Some weirdness occurred.

A background; Have two OEM:s, one at work, one at home. Same hardware, same 
OS - CentOS 7.4 x64, same repos and both fully updated, same software 
installed. I believe the chassis differ though(...).

At work, the rpm from https://www.skype.com/en/get-skype/, refused to install 
with the same errors as above regarding the libs.

The Skype Flatpak from 
https://flathub.org/repo/appstream/com.skype.Client.flatpakref installed just 
fine and the test call showed no problems, so that's what I installed at
home
too.

The Skype flatpak at home worked beautifully, that is to say for about ten 
minutes, then the sound (using a Koss SB/45 headset) it started crackling to 
the point of not being usable anymore. I hung up and reconnected, then sound 
was fine, for another ten minutes at which point the crackling returned.
Checking the sound prefs, I saw that alsa on the app tab had two instances, 
one stable and one that blinked like crazy, like it was opening and closing a 
few times a second.

On a hunch I downloaded the skype for linux rpm from the link above and 
installed it with yum.
No lib errors!
I started it and gave it a go, and - no crackling whatsoever. In fact it 
worked as good as it gets IMHO.

Is there anything that could account for the problem I had?
I read that the network bandwidth may be a problem, and that five Mbps at a 
minimum with video is the low mark.
At work I sit on a 1 Gbps up/down network. At home I have 100 Mbps up/down. I 
have doubts that the network width was the problem.

Are flatpaks known to cause odd problems at all?

--
//Sorin

Sorry, to be honest I dont have personal experience with skype flatpak so I
dont know how does it behave. But I would recommend to report your problems
to issues page on skype flatpak github:
https://github.com/alexlarsson/skype-app

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Sorin Srbu <Sorin.Srbu at orgfarm.uu.se>
wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CentOS [mailto:centos-bounces at centos.org] On Behalf Of ken
> > Sent: den 22 november 2017 20:14
> > To: centos at centos.org
> > Subject: Re: [CentOS] skypeforlinux lacks dependencies, won't
update
> >
> > On 11/19/2017 12:53 PM, vychytraly . wrote:
> > > Maybe try flatpak version? there should be no problems with
> > dependencies
> > > there... :)
> >
> > Thanks, I didn't know about flatpak... even tho it's in the
base repo!
> > I have to admit though, after reading through the flatpak website
about
> > it, I still don't understand how it could overcome the dependency
> > problem with the skypeforlinux update.  Grateful for enlightenment.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 7:02 PM, ken <gebser at
mousecar.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> For about a week now yum has tried and failed to update
skypeforlinux:
> > >>
> > >> Packages skipped because of dependency problems:
> > >>      skypeforlinux-8.10.0.4-1.x86_64 from skype-stable
> > >>
> > >> Processing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.20)(64bit)
for
> > package:
> > >> skypeforlinux-8.10.0.4-1.x86_64
> > >>
> > >> Is there any resolution to this issue?
>
> Please excuse the sidetrack.
>
> I had to do a Skype-meeting yesterday evening. Some weirdness occurred.
>
> A background; Have two OEM:s, one at work, one at home. Same hardware, same
> OS - CentOS 7.4 x64, same repos and both fully updated, same software
> installed. I believe the chassis differ though(...).
>
> At work, the rpm from https://www.skype.com/en/get-skype/, refused to
> install
> with the same errors as above regarding the libs.
>
> The Skype Flatpak from
> https://flathub.org/repo/appstream/com.skype.Client.flatpakref installed
> just
> fine and the test call showed no problems, so that's what I installed
at
> home
> too.
>
> The Skype flatpak at home worked beautifully, that is to say for about ten
> minutes, then the sound (using a Koss SB/45 headset) it started crackling
> to
> the point of not being usable anymore. I hung up and reconnected, then
> sound
> was fine, for another ten minutes at which point the crackling returned.
> Checking the sound prefs, I saw that alsa on the app tab had two instances,
> one stable and one that blinked like crazy, like it was opening and
> closing a
> few times a second.
>
> On a hunch I downloaded the skype for linux rpm from the link above and
> installed it with yum.
> No lib errors!
> I started it and gave it a go, and - no crackling whatsoever. In fact it
> worked as good as it gets IMHO.
>
> Is there anything that could account for the problem I had?
> I read that the network bandwidth may be a problem, and that five Mbps at a
> minimum with video is the low mark.
> At work I sit on a 1 Gbps up/down network. At home I have 100 Mbps
> up/down. I
> have doubts that the network width was the problem.
>
> Are flatpaks known to cause odd problems at all?
>
> --
> //Sorin
> _______________________________________________
> CentOS mailing list
> CentOS at centos.org
> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
>

On 23/11/17 19:49, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> The Skype flatpak at home worked beautifully, that is to say for about ten 
> minutes, then the sound (using a Koss SB/45 headset) it started crackling
to
> the point of not being usable anymore. I hung up and reconnected, then
sound
> was fine, for another ten minutes at which point the crackling returned.
> Checking the sound prefs, I saw that alsa on the app tab had two instances,
> one stable and one that blinked like crazy, like it was opening and closing
a
> few times a second.
> 
> On a hunch I downloaded the skype for linux rpm from the link above and 
> installed it with yum.
> No lib errors!
> I started it and gave it a go, and - no crackling whatsoever. In fact it 
> worked as good as it gets IMHO.
I think this was a known issue with Skype 8.10 for linux itself as I
noticed it when I was looking for answers to the GLIBCXX dependency
issue.  It looks like the skype-stable repo just got updated to 8.11.0
which fixes both the dependency issue and the crackling one.


Peter