m.roth at 5-cent.us
2017-Feb-22 21:32 UTC
[CentOS] OT: hardware, IBM 3650 M2 won't power on
John R Pierce wrote:> On 2/22/2017 1:16 PM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >> a) Please don't top post. >> b) 'T'ain't funny, McGee. They don't have the budget, and they need this >> server*now*... it's one of their compute nodes, and at least one person >> is dead in the water. > > you can't afford a replacement for a 6-8 year old server (new in 2009), > yet someone who is presumably being paid is not able to work. whats > that costing? >Let's see: 1. the server was working fine before we moved it out of the datacenter yesterday afternoon. 2. You're suggesting that they can say "ok", and we run down to Microcenter and buy a new one today, and plug it in today, right? 3. This is a US federal government agency; we run machines until they die, or we can justify replacing them. And then it takes a month or two (if we're lucky before all the approvals, and then it gets shipped. I would imagine it's like that in any large corporation, too. mark, who's looking for suggestions to help, not be criticized for not just buying another, as though, as a contractor, I had *any* authority to do that (contractors DO NOT)
Mark Woolfson (Notebook)
2017-Feb-22 21:40 UTC
[CentOS] OT: hardware, IBM 3650 M2 won't power on
I assume that you have tried an alternate main power lead in a different socket. If you have then it sounds as though the power supply is crowbarring on initialisation. I would remove internal components until it powers on correctly. Regards, Mark Woolfson MW Consultancy Ltd Leeds United Kingdom Tel: +44 113 259 1204 Mob: +44 786 065 2778 -----Original Message----- From: m.roth at 5-cent.us Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:32 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: hardware, IBM 3650 M2 won't power on John R Pierce wrote:> On 2/22/2017 1:16 PM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >> a) Please don't top post. >> b) 'T'ain't funny, McGee. They don't have the budget, and they need this >> server*now*... it's one of their compute nodes, and at least one person >> is dead in the water. > > you can't afford a replacement for a 6-8 year old server (new in 2009), > yet someone who is presumably being paid is not able to work. whats > that costing? >Let's see: 1. the server was working fine before we moved it out of the datacenter yesterday afternoon. 2. You're suggesting that they can say "ok", and we run down to Microcenter and buy a new one today, and plug it in today, right? 3. This is a US federal government agency; we run machines until they die, or we can justify replacing them. And then it takes a month or two (if we're lucky before all the approvals, and then it gets shipped. I would imagine it's like that in any large corporation, too. mark, who's looking for suggestions to help, not be criticized for not just buying another, as though, as a contractor, I had *any* authority to do that (contractors DO NOT) _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS at centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On 2/22/2017 1:32 PM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:> 1. the server was working fine before we moved it out of the datacenter > yesterday afternoon.old hardware often doesn't survive moves, or even power/thermal cycles (powering off long enough to get cold, then back on). does that server have an IPMI/BMC or some other sort of lights off management? can you raise that, or was it never configured ? -- john r pierce, recycling bits in santa cruz
Mark Woolfson (Notebook)
2017-Feb-22 21:48 UTC
[CentOS] OT: hardware, IBM 3650 M2 won't power on
>From what I remember the 3650 M2 has got some diagnostic LED's on the rearpanel. Do these turn on and cycle? Regards, Mark Woolfson MW Consultancy Ltd Leeds United Kingdom Tel: +44 113 259 1204 Mob: +44 786 065 2778 -----Original Message----- From: John R Pierce Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:43 PM To: centos at centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: hardware, IBM 3650 M2 won't power on On 2/22/2017 1:32 PM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:> 1. the server was working fine before we moved it out of the datacenter > yesterday afternoon.old hardware often doesn't survive moves, or even power/thermal cycles (powering off long enough to get cold, then back on). does that server have an IPMI/BMC or some other sort of lights off management? can you raise that, or was it never configured ? -- john r pierce, recycling bits in santa cruz _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS at centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
m.roth at 5-cent.us
2017-Feb-22 21:51 UTC
[CentOS] OT: hardware, IBM 3650 M2 won't power on
John R Pierce wrote:> On 2/22/2017 1:32 PM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >> 1. the server was working fine before we moved it out of the datacenter >> yesterday afternoon. > > old hardware often doesn't survive moves, or even power/thermal cycles > (powering off long enough to get cold, then back on). >I know, and I'm afraid of that. Still, the googling I did seems to suggest that there are issues with the idiot diagnostic panel that pulls out - the power button's on it, but pulled out, shows diagnostics. I've tried pushing the "remind" button, that tells it "yeah, I know there's an error, boot anyway", and I've tried pushing the tiny, tiny thing that I think sends the system an NMI. No joy.> > does that server have an IPMI/BMC or some other sort of lights off > management? can you raise that, or was it never configured ?That's what I was saying - I tried connecting to it from another server in the rack, and it's supposed to show a web page, but I can't ping it, and firefox times out trying to connect to the default IP of 192.168.70.125. mark