I've been blocked twice this morning, and removed myself once - the first
time, by the time I got to work and looked at the list, it was already
gone. My hosting provider works with those jerks at manitu. I've ranted a
number of times over the years at why their method is a *lousy* method for
blocking spam in the second decade of the 21st century.
Now this: here's another argument as to why the CentOS list should stop
using them... when I went to remove myself, the email that told me I'd
been blocked, also said who'd reported my mailserver (that is,
hostmonster's mailserver) as sending spam was someone at selfip.biz. Go do
a whois on them - it's someone at home, using dyndns, not an open obvious
company. This means that anyone who gets annoyed at *anyone* served by any
ISP can report them, and block everyone at that ISP.
Go ahead, tell me this is *reasonable* in 2013.
mark
Actually, Manitu, also known as NIXSpam, is quite a good list. I've been using only this one and Spamhaus for years. Very good FP:Spam ratio. I, too, had an issue with the list lately and contacted the maintainer of the project who gave me a good explanation of why Facebook servers may be listed on it (they don't stop sending to discontinued users that have been bouncing for at least half a year). If the mailserver of your provider sends spam it's absolutely fine to put it on the list. Or, in other words, that's what the list is for in the first place. If Hostmonster feels that there is only few spam running over their servers and they cannot get this down to zero (which is reasonable) then they can contact them and ask to be put on the whitelist. I don't know what you mean by "My hosting provider works with those jerks at manitu". Does your hosting provider use them to block you? Or does he work with them to resolve the issue?> selfip.bizI don't see the relevance. You should provide the URL, so one could actually check the headers of the mail (it doesn't list the content) and decide if it could have been spam. If it indeed was spam (either by content or by definition) I don't see what's wrong with putting it on the list according to list policy. selfip.biz is actually a domain they use for their spamtraps. So, this mail was sent to a spamtrap. One could argue whether a mailserver should send to hostname.selfip.biz at all as it may be not be a real mailserver (but you don't know). But that's a different story. Most of the time RBLs are fine as long as people don't get on them themselves :-) Kai