Most of the time since last Thursday or so, that piece of crap called
Nixnet (ix.manitu) has been blocking my hosting provider's mailservers.
I did ask, when I talked to support last week, and they host *millions* of
domains. They do not have a million techs (neither does google - but I'm
*sure* none of you have ever gotten spam from google mail, right?).
Again, I'll give my argument that blocking a mailserver, rather than a
domain has been the *WRONG* answer for at least 15 or more years. A dozen
or so years ago, they blocked Chicago roadrunner... which provided 'Net
access and email to about half the City of Chicago, IL, USA, which,
Karanbir, is about a quarter the size of the London metro area, so we're
talking hundreds of thousands of people.
Now, in days after massive consolidation of ISPs (even the Canadian ISP
that userfriendly's Columbia Internet has bee bought and closed up), this
means that they're blocking telcos and giant hosting providers.
I'm really, REALLY tired of being blocked when a couple dozen domains,
hiding out in millions of them at one hosting provider, results in a few
million people being blocked from sending email.
mark
Am 16.09.2013 22:06, schrieb m.roth at 5-cent.us:> Most of the time since last Thursday or so, that piece of crap called > Nixnet (ix.manitu) has been blocking my hosting provider's mailservers.I see you in rage mode, though I like to totally disagree. The ix.dnsbl.manitu.net RBL is doing a great job.> I did ask, when I talked to support last week, and they host *millions* of > domains. They do not have a million techs (neither does google - but I'm > *sure* none of you have ever gotten spam from google mail, right?).Like nobody ever got SPAM from hotmail, nor yahoo. Right, nobody ever.> Again, I'll give my argument that blocking a mailserver, rather than a > domain has been the *WRONG* answer for at least 15 or more years. A dozen > or so years ago, they blocked Chicago roadrunner... which provided 'Net > access and email to about half the City of Chicago, IL, USA, which, > Karanbir, is about a quarter the size of the London metro area, so we're > talking hundreds of thousands of people.A mailserver which permits to send out SPAM has to be blocked. Period. Well, it is not the server itself being guilty, it is the postmaster being responsible.> Now, in days after massive consolidation of ISPs (even the Canadian ISP > that userfriendly's Columbia Internet has bee bought and closed up), this > means that they're blocking telcos and giant hosting providers.Vote with your money if your email provider does not do a good job.> I'm really, REALLY tired of being blocked when a couple dozen domains, > hiding out in millions of them at one hosting provider, results in a few > million people being blocked from sending email.I am glad if SPAM proliferation hosts get listed.> markThere is no need to respond to this mail. Alexander
John R Pierce wrote:> On 9/16/2013 1:29 PM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >> No. Block domains. > how? 90%+ of spam has forged FROM addresses. >From crap in my trash from today:Received: from [206.214.95.82] (port=57577 helo=03e6231b.buhlgymgagate.us) by host290.hostmonster.com with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <KohlsGiftCardSurvey at buhlgymgagate.us>) id 1VLfOH-0003sR-20 for m.roth at 5-cent.us; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 14:27:25 -0600 Received: by 03e6231b.bw31almxu.buhlgymgagate.us (amavisd-new, port 10268) with ESMTP id 03NGCCNSDRE623JKCXHVTJ1B; for <m.roth at 5-cent.us>; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:27:24 -0700 To: m.roth at 5-cent.us List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:unsub-2268-733-2332-11-65411647 at buhlgymgagate.us?subject=unsubscribe>, <http://www.buhlgymgagate.us/unsubscribe/2268/733/2332/11/65411647/~~m.roth at 5-cent.us> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) From: "Kohls Gift Card Survey" <KohlsGiftCardSurvey at buhlgymgagate.us> So, it looks like mmm, (check whois) Jeff Martinez should be blocked at buhlgymgagate.us. On the other hand, I look at the headers to one of my posts, and I see that it's coming from, ta-da, 5-cent.us. If I were sending out spam, then you'd be perfectly justified in blocking 5-cent.us. mark