My 12 year old wants to learn more about servers and has memorized a lot of commands like ls, chmod, du, etc. He wants to have his own domain and server on the web and I have enough Static IP's, so why not foster this interest. I have an old ultra sparc 5. Are there any CentOS versions that support Sparc? Or recommendations? I know OpenBSD does, but I am more versed in Solaris and versions like Slackware or CentOS or Ubuntu. He also says that ZFS rules all and is pissed Apple did not adopt it. Kids will be kids! -Jason
On 12/29/2009 11:13 PM, Slack-Moehrle wrote:> My 12 year old wants to learn more about servers and has memorized a > lot of commands like ls, chmod, du, etc. He wants to have his own > domain and server on the web and I have enough Static IP's, so why > not foster this interest.Hi Jason,> I have an old ultra sparc 5. Are there any CentOS versions that > support Sparc?IIRC there was CentOS 4.6, but I'm not sure. Is it a 'Sun Ultra 5' or a 'SPARCstation 5'?> Or recommendations? I know OpenBSD does,Yes, and it does it perfectly.> but I am more versed in > Solaris and versions like Slackware or CentOS or Ubuntu.Solaris support will end with Solaris 9, maybe you can tweak it to run Solaris 10, but I'm not sure. I had an Ultra 10/440 some years ago, I think I remember that there were issues back then.> He also says that ZFS rules allYap, it's nice. If he wants ZFS and maybe wants to become a great hacker, he may want to have a look at FreeBSD for sparc64; it's not a first tier architecture, so there maybe some adventures during installation/use, but it could be worth a try... ;)> and is pissed Apple did not adopt it.Nah, they didn't need it for their iPods. Or do they still build computers (or, 'Mac'-labeled PeeCee hardware)? SCNR.> Kids will be kids! > > > -JasonHTH, Timo
Jason:> Are there any CentOS versions that support Sparc?Check out http://sparc.centos.org Neil -- Neil Aggarwal, (281)846-8957, http://UnmeteredVPS.net CentOS 5.4 VPS with unmetered bandwidth only $25/month! No overage charges, 7 day free trial, PayPal, Google Checkout
----- "Slack-Moehrle" <mailinglists at mailnewsrss.com> wrote:> My 12 year old wants to learn more about servers and has memorized a > lot of commands like ls, chmod, du, etc. > He wants to have his own domain and server on the web and I have > enough Static IP's, so why not foster this interest.Fantastic! Nothing helps creativity and exploration like the support of a parent.> > I have an old ultra sparc 5. Are there any CentOS versions that > support Sparc?Some older CentOS versions may have supported SPARC. Recently, I've been running Debian and FreeBSD on my SPARC gear with no problems to speak of. IIRC, your best bet these days besides Solaris on SPARC is going to be either NetBSD or OpenBSD in terms of support and completeness.> > Or recommendations? I know OpenBSD does, but I am more versed in > Solaris and versions like Slackware or CentOS or Ubuntu. >See above. :-)> He also says that ZFS rules all and is pissed Apple did not adopt it. > Kids will be kids!You should go into a rant about "When I was your age... we didn't have ZFS, or Reiserfs, or even ext2/3. We had FAT. And we liked it. And nobody complained. Not like you young punks have it with your 'journaling' this and 'snapshots' that." --Tim
On Tuesday 29 December 2009 17:13:52 Slack-Moehrle wrote:> My 12 year old wants to learn more about servers and has memorized a lot of > commands like ls, chmod, du, etc. He wants to have his own domain and > server on the web and I have enough Static IP's, so why not foster this > interest. > > I have an old ultra sparc 5. Are there any CentOS versions that support > Sparc? > > Or recommendations? I know OpenBSD does, but I am more versed in Solaris > and versions like Slackware or CentOS or Ubuntu. > > He also says that ZFS rules all and is pissed Apple did not adopt it. Kids > will be kids!I'm sorry if I missed something - but why not just run Solaris 10 then? It works on an Ultra 5 if you don't need zfs root or have 512MB. Peter. -- Censorship: noun, circa 1591. a: Relief of the burden of independent thinking.
Slack-Moehrle wrote:> My 12 year old wants to learn more about servers and has memorized a lot of > commands like ls, chmod, du, etc. > He wants to have his own domain and server on the web and I have enough > Static IP's, so why not foster this interest.I'd say go the VM route if you can, safer, easier to un-screw when he breaks the whole thing, and certainly more dynamic(setup many systems so they can talk to each other etc), and likely save a lot on power. nate
Slack-Moehrle wrote:> My 12 year old wants to learn more about servers and has memorized a lot of commands like ls, chmod, du, etc. > He wants to have his own domain and server on the web and I have enough Static IP's, so why not foster this interest. > > I have an old ultra sparc 5. Are there any CentOS versions that support Sparc?the Ultra 5 (and its cousin the Ultra 10) is penalized by having a programmed IO IDE channel which can transfer a max 6MB/sec at 100% CPU bound. some technical details here, http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/U5/U5&source= <http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/U5/U5&source=> Its supported by Solaris 10 but with a max of 512MB ram, you're not going to get very far with ZFS. best thing you can do with those is get a LSI Logic/Symbios SCSI card (gotta be 5V 33Mhz 32bit PCI card such as the 53C875 or '876), and use a SCSI disk, this gets away from the PIO performance bottleneck, and should be supported by the openboot rom as-is. if you remove the floppy drive, you can get two HD's into a U5 chassis.
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Slack-Moehrle <mailinglists at mailnewsrss.com> wrote:> My 12 year old wants to learn more about servers and has memorized a lot of commands like ls, chmod, du, etc. > He wants to have his own domain and server on the web and I have enough Static IP's, so why not foster this interest. > > I have an old ultra sparc 5. Are there any CentOS versions that support Sparc? > > Or recommendations? I know OpenBSD does, but I am more versed in Solaris and versions like Slackware > or CentOS or Ubuntu.Solaris 10 will install and run on the Ultra5 w/o issue. I have one running here at home. Hope this helps, - Ryan -- http://prefetch.net -- http://prefetch.net