CentOS - Apr 2006 - Alert icon for yum

Hi all.  I have a simple question:  CentOS relies mostly on "yum" to 
keep systems up to date, although I understand that like on RHEL, 
"up2date" is also available.  On my system I've run both KDE and
GNOME
as Graphical Desktops under X (though I presently run GNOME), and I've 
noticed that there is an applet called "CentOS Network Alert Icon"
(from
the "System Tools" menu) which when run appears in a "status
area" in a
panel to show whether the system needs updating or not.  This applet 
shows the up2date sources, but my question is:  Is there any way to have 
some sort of similar applet that does this for yum.   I just think that 
when we add repos we usually add them through yum.  Also when we update 
the system we usually use yum.  Hence I think it would be better to use 
an applet similar to up2date's for yum so that there is no need to edit 
both yum and up2date files and there is consistency between when the 
applet signals a need for updating and the actual "yum update"
command.
Am I making sense?

I found a site (http://fedoranews.org/tchung/yum-applet/) with the 
source for a yum applet.  I know I can build this for myself, but I was 
wondering what others on this list think and whether such an applet 
should be more widely available to the general CentOS audience.  Can I 
go ahead and build this for my system?  TIA for your answers.

Sincerely
Jose Alburquerque

On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 00:37 -0400, Jos? Alburquerque
wrote:
> Hi all.  I have a simple question:  CentOS relies mostly on "yum"
to
> keep systems up to date, although I understand that like on RHEL, 
> "up2date" is also available.  On my system I've run both KDE
and GNOME
> as Graphical Desktops under X (though I presently run GNOME), and I've 
> noticed that there is an applet called "CentOS Network Alert
Icon" (from
> the "System Tools" menu) which when run appears in a "status
area" in a
> panel to show whether the system needs updating or not.  This applet 
> shows the up2date sources, but my question is:  Is there any way to have 
> some sort of similar applet that does this for yum.   I just think that 
> when we add repos we usually add them through yum.  Also when we update 
> the system we usually use yum.  Hence I think it would be better to use 
> an applet similar to up2date's for yum so that there is no need to edit
> both yum and up2date files and there is consistency between when the 
> applet signals a need for updating and the actual "yum update"
command.
> Am I making sense?
> 
> I found a site (http://fedoranews.org/tchung/yum-applet/) with the 
> source for a yum applet.  I know I can build this for myself, but I was 
> wondering what others on this list think and whether such an applet 
> should be more widely available to the general CentOS audience.  Can I 
> go ahead and build this for my system?  TIA for your answers.
> 
> Sincerely
> Jose Alburquerque
The best I can tell that still uses up2date's /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources
file to check for updates ... it just launched GYUM instead of up2date
for doing the updates.
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On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 00:37 -0400, Jos? Alburquerque
wrote:
> Hi all.  I have a simple question:  CentOS relies mostly on "yum"
to
> keep systems up to date, although I understand that like on RHEL, 
> "up2date" is also available.  On my system I've run both KDE
and GNOME
> as Graphical Desktops under X (though I presently run GNOME), and I've 
> noticed that there is an applet called "CentOS Network Alert
Icon" (from
> the "System Tools" menu) which when run appears in a "status
area" in a
> panel to show whether the system needs updating or not.  This applet 
> shows the up2date sources, but my question is:  Is there any way to have 
> some sort of similar applet that does this for yum.   I just think that 
> when we add repos we usually add them through yum.  Also when we update 
> the system we usually use yum.  Hence I think it would be better to use 
> an applet similar to up2date's for yum so that there is no need to edit
> both yum and up2date files and there is consistency between when the 
> applet signals a need for updating and the actual "yum update"
command.
> Am I making sense?
> 
> I found a site (http://fedoranews.org/tchung/yum-applet/) with the 
> source for a yum applet.  I know I can build this for myself, but I was 
> wondering what others on this list think and whether such an applet 
> should be more widely available to the general CentOS audience.  Can I 
> go ahead and build this for my system?  TIA for your answers.
> 
> Sincerely
> Jose Alburquerque
why not just set up a cronjob once a day/nite or something if you want
to be on top of updates that close... just a little yum -y update thing
as root

--- Jos??? Alburquerque <jaalburquerque at cox.net>
wrote:
> Hi all.  I have a simple question:  CentOS relies
> mostly on "yum" to 
> keep systems up to date, although I understand that
> like on RHEL, 
> "up2date" is also available.  On my system I've run
> both KDE and GNOME 
> as Graphical Desktops under X (though I presently
> run GNOME), and I've 
> noticed that there is an applet called "CentOS
> Network Alert Icon" (from 
> the "System Tools" menu) which when run appears in a
> "status area" in a 
> panel to show whether the system needs updating or
> not.  This applet 
> shows the up2date sources, but my question is:  Is
> there any way to have 
> some sort of similar applet that does this for yum. 
>  I just think that 
> when we add repos we usually add them through yum. 
> Also when we update 
> the system we usually use yum.  Hence I think it
> would be better to use 
> an applet similar to up2date's for yum so that there
> is no need to edit 
> both yum and up2date files and there is consistency
> between when the 
> applet signals a need for updating and the actual
> "yum update" command.  
> Am I making sense?
> 
> I found a site
> (http://fedoranews.org/tchung/yum-applet/) with the 
> source for a yum applet.  I know I can build this
> for myself, but I was 
> wondering what others on this list think and whether
> such an applet 
> should be more widely available to the general
> CentOS audience.  Can I 
> go ahead and build this for my system?  TIA for your
> answers.
> 
> Sincerely
> Jose Alburquerque
Incase you did not know, the link someone gave to yum
applet applies to Fedora 4, 5 and onwards. CentOS 4 is
based on RHEL which was in turn based on Fedora core
3.  For the statisticians the 87% of the packages in
FC3 appeared unmodified in nahant beta. In Fedora Core
3 and earlier the familiar rhn applet notifies you
when updates are available. Read between the line when
consulting Fedora material beacuse it mostly appies to
FC5 or FC4 all newer than CentOS. CentOS 5 will be
based on RHEL 5 which will be based on FC5 (minus the
annoying bugs and stuff upstream do not want to
support).

This situation may be confusing to people who may not
be aware of the development chain.

CentOS 4 has already a working applet
rhn-applet-2.1.24-3.centos4.i386.rpm available in the
base directory.

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