Any recommendations on an economical layer 3 switch? Preferably something that you have hands on experience with connecting to IP phones with attached PCs? Specifically I need the ability to set the VLAN in the phone to tag voice packets and to set a native VLAN on a per port basis on the switch to put the untagged packets from the attached PC into a separate VLAN. POE is not a requirement but if you have suggestions for an economical layer 3 switch with POE I?d be glad to hear them?so far I?m looking at the SFE2000 from Linksys. thanks No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.7/868 - Release Date: 6/25/2007 12:20 PM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20070625/0bf23e08/attachment.htm
On 6/26/07, Marty Mastera <marty at m3resources.com> wrote:> > Any recommendations on an economical layer 3 switch? Preferably > something that you have hands on experience with connecting to IP phones > with attached PCs? Specifically I need the ability to set the VLAN in the > phone to tag voice packets and to set a native VLAN on a per port basis on > the switch to put the untagged packets from the attached PC into a separate > VLAN. > > > > POE is not a requirement but if you have suggestions for an economical > layer 3 switch with POE I'd be glad to hear them?so far I'm looking at the > SFE2000 from Linksys. >I'm using a SFE2000 with PoE with Asterisk. Besides * and my management box (MySQL, ARI, Queuemetrics, etc.), I have the 10 desk phones that I need PoE for plugged into it, a mix of GXP2000, Linksys SPA941 and a couple of Aastra 480i and 9133i units. One of the things that sold me on it was that it can do 185W across all ports; you're not stuck giving 7W or 15W to each port (which was a problem with many models I looked at and limits you to only 12 of 24 ports getting power). I'm told the Grandsteams pull about 4W, and since that's the phone with the widest deployment, I expect to be able to drive 24 per switch eventually. So far I've had no problems with it, though I'm not using it's layer 3 functionality. I trunk two VLANs to a Baystack layer 3 switch, which was pretty simple to set up and has worked properly ever since. My setup doesn't have both tagged and untagged packets coming into the same port, so I can't speak to that. The configuration certainly seems to support it, and I suspect that the default "admit all / no ingress filter" combined with the fact that every port has to have a PVID assigned means that it would work pretty much out of the box after you configure your VLAN numbers. The UI interface needs some improvement. It's not quite sure if it's a linksys or a cisco right now. You can make all the configuration via a Web GUI as you would with a typical Linksys SOHO router, but if you don't go to "Admin -> File Management -> Copy Files" and choose to copy "running-config" to "startup-config" (using drop-down boxes, naturally), it loses all your changes on reboot. :) If you have other questions, feel free to contact me off-list. -- j. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20070626/31787251/attachment.htm
> Any recommendations on an economical layer 3 switch?I've been quite happy with the Netgear FS728TP ProSafe switches. These are 24 port 10/100 switches with 4 GigE ports and PoE. They also support 1000-SX GBIC through an optional module. The total PoE budget for all 24 port is 195 watts. We run 38 GXP2000 phones on a pair of them. We have one with 19 phones and a DLink DWL-3200AP wireless access point drawing power and the current load is under 75 watts average and has peaked at 97 watts. The other one has 19 phones, two Ethernet cameras and draws even less. All for less than $375 shipped. They even have a $25 rebate on them until the end of the month. Plus they even have a Lifetime Warranty. One of the cool features I discovered after installation was the built in Time Domain Reflectometer. The TDR is great for testing out the cables right after installation. We were able to use it to locate the screw that the drywallers intentionally ran through one of our cables. It was so obvious that the contractor paid to replace the cable. The only negative comment I have about them is the drone of the fans. Our wall mount rack is in the break room and the switches are easily the loudest item in the rack. They are not as loud as the Dell server we originally bought so if your using a 1U server from Compaq, Dell, HP, etc... you'll be fine. John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20070626/e5848622/attachment.htm
You do not need an L3 switch for this, just any managed switch which does vlans Unless there is something else? On Jun 26, 2007, at 12:07 AM, Marty Mastera wrote:> Any recommendations on an economical layer 3 switch? Preferably > something that you have hands on experience with connecting to IP > phones with attached PCs? Specifically I need the ability to set > the VLAN in the phone to tag voice packets and to set a native VLAN > on a per port basis on the switch to put the untagged packets from > the attached PC into a separate VLAN. > > > POE is not a requirement but if you have suggestions for an > economical layer 3 switch with POE I?d be glad to hear them?so far > I?m looking at the SFE2000 from Linksys. > > > thanks > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.7/868 - Release Date: > 6/25/2007 12:20 PM > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I want to route between VLANs without an external router and do some simple ACLs to allow PCs on the data VLANs to access the web interface of the Trixbox on the voice VLAN. thanks -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Jones Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:21 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Inexpensive Layer 3 Switch? You do not need an L3 switch for this, just any managed switch which does vlans Unless there is something else? On Jun 26, 2007, at 12:07 AM, Marty Mastera wrote:> Any recommendations on an economical layer 3 switch? Preferably > something that you have hands on experience with connecting to IP > phones with attached PCs? Specifically I need the ability to set > the VLAN in the phone to tag voice packets and to set a native VLAN > on a per port basis on the switch to put the untagged packets from > the attached PC into a separate VLAN. > > > POE is not a requirement but if you have suggestions for an > economical layer 3 switch with POE I?d be glad to hear them?so far > I?m looking at the SFE2000 from Linksys. > > > thanks > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.7/868 - Release Date: > 6/25/2007 12:20 PM > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users_______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.7/868 - Release Date: 6/25/2007 12:20 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/870 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 10:07 AM
Marty Mastera wrote:> > Any recommendations on an economical layer 3 switch? Preferably > something that you have hands on experience with connecting to IP > phones with attached PCs? Specifically I need the ability to set the > VLAN in the phone to tag voice packets and to set a native VLAN on a > per port basis on the switch to put the untagged packets from the > attached PC into a separate VLAN. > > POE is not a requirement but if you have suggestions for an economical > layer 3 switch with POE I?d be glad to hear them?so far I?m looking at > the SFE2000 from Linksys. > > thanks > >I have been eying the Dell webmanaged Gigabit switches. They are inexpensive, managed, support port mirroring, VLAN, QoS, and much more. I am probably going to get the 16 or 24 port for testing. The forwarding rates are an often overlooked spec. $202 (currently on sale) for 16 Gigabit ports is almost too good to be true for a managed switch. I am in no way recommending this switch since I have yet to test it but I certainly will give it a try. http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/pwcnt_2716?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd 16 10/100/1000 BASE-T ports Auto-negotiation for speed, duplex mode and flow control Auto MDI/MDIX mode and flow control Integrated Port LEDs Individual port controls Performance Switching Capacity 32.0 Gbps Forwarding Rate 23.7 Mpps Management Web-based management interface BootP/DHCP IP address management or Static IP address assignment RMON statistics Class of Service Four priority queues per port Adjustable WRR and strict priority Layer 2 IEEE 802.1p tagging and port-based priority Layer 3-aware prioritization using DSCP values Security Switch access password protection (read-only and read-write access) Restricted IP address VLAN IEEE 802.1Q port-based tagging up to 64 VLANs Honors all 4096 VLAN tags Switching Features Link Aggregation, up to six groups and up to four aggregated links per group (IEEE 802.3ad) Port mirroring (up to four source ports) Jumbo frame support up to 9000 Bytes (2716 & 2724 only) Availability Firmware Uploads to the Switch Broadcast Storm Control Virtual Cable Tester by Marvell^? Optical Transceiver Diagnostics Chassis *Dimensions:* 1.70 in (H) x 12.99 in (W) x 9.07 in (D) *Height:* 1U rack *Weight:* 6.16 lbs *Voltage:* 100-240VAC, 50-60Hz Standards Supported IEEE802.3 CSMA/CD IEEE802.3u 100BaseTx IEEE802.3z/ab 1000BaseT IEEE802.3x Flow Control IEEE 802.1p Environmental Operating Temperature: 0? C to 45? C (32? F to 113? F) Storage temperature: -20? C to 70? C (-4? F to 158? F) Operating Humidity: 10% to 90% Relative Humidity Storage Humidity: 10% to 95% Relate Humidity Power Maximum Power: 1.0A @ 100V Once upon a time I would say "Go Cisco", but I think Dell has come a long way with their servers and switches. Thanks, Steve Totaro