asterisk users - Dec 2004 - FXO to IAX on ethernet. or FXO to SIP on Ethernet

Now I have searched around and not seen anything to do this.

I want to in remote locations were we need to have single or 2 PSTN 
lines for in dial as little hardware as possible and as stable as 
possible so that they will operate without user intervention.

What I want to do is be able to take a single PSTN line in and go out 
through adsl for the Inet link.

These would be in VERY remote locations like smaller towns so they would 
need to be simple, stable and require little to no user intervention 
after they are installed.

Does anyone know of any hardware that will do this or a way that this 
could be done or ??????

Thanks

David

> Now I have searched around and not seen anything to do this.
> 
> I want to in remote locations were we need to have single or 2 PSTN 
> lines for in dial as little hardware as possible and as stable as 
> possible so that they will operate without user intervention.
> 
> What I want to do is be able to take a single PSTN line in and go out 
> through adsl for the Inet link.
> 
> These would be in VERY remote locations like smaller towns so they would 
> need to be simple, stable and require little to no user intervention 
> after they are installed.
> 
> Does anyone know of any hardware that will do this or a way that this 
> could be done or ??????
Sounds like you want something like the Sipura SPA-3000, which has one
fxo port (pstn), one fxs port and one Ethernet (voip) port. About as small 
as it can get, remotely configurable via a browser, very stable, no
buttons or screens, and a good selection of codecs for adjusting to 
small dsl bandwidth. 

Downside: more config options then you care to imagine; a little 
difficult to initially configure if you're not heavily into voip 
and telephony stuff. About $100 US.

I've never played with a spa-3000 in a nat environment, but since 
several of the itsp's support it, it must work okay.

Checkout http://www.mediatrix.com (FXO device 1204) or
http://www.multitech.com.

I have been looking into this myself. It appears that Nortel has an
arrangement with Mediatrix and uses these devices where a remote FXO is
needed that would be cost prohibitive to put in a full chassis. Avaya
appears to have the same type of arrangement with Avaya where a G700
chassis is overkill.

On both fronts I am *assuming* the quality and echo can is excellent if
these two players are endorsing this solution. However, they are not in
the price range of the products most of us have been using for FXO
interfaces on this list. They may not also have the feature versatility
we would like in a SOHO environment as their primary market will focus
on quality but with dedicated purpose.

The Mediatrix is a 4 port FXO only. MultiTech offer more units in
different port counts, but each port appears to have flexible config
options (FXO/FXS/E&M, etc.) which adds significantly to the price.

Mediatrix is list price 650.USD and the 2 port MultiTech looks to be
900. USD list.

dbc.
--
David Cook


Quoting asterisk-users-request@lists.digium.com:
>
> I want to in remote locations were we need to have single or 2 PSTN
> lines for in dial as little hardware as possible and as stable as
> possible so that they will operate without user intervention.
>
> What I want to do is be able to take a single PSTN line in and go out
> through adsl for the Inet link.
>
> These would be in VERY remote locations like smaller towns so they
> would
> need to be simple, stable and require little to no user intervention
> after they are installed.
>
> Does anyone know of any hardware that will do this or a way that this
> could be done or ??????
>
> Thanks
>
> David

There are two different approaches available:

1. Hardware

What you want is a remote SIP gateway.  These are boxes which have 
FXS/FXO/E&M ports in some combination on one side and and an ethernet port 
on the other.  Most of these boxes were originally designed to run H.323 and 
had SIP firmware added at a later stage.

An example is http://www.ovislink.com.tw/voip400.htm.

Ovislink have 4 and 8 port units.  Each takes a 4-port (or two 4-port units 
for the 8 port model) adapters.  These can be either four FXS or four FXO or 
four E&M adapters.

Ovislink also have a 2-port model http://www.ovislink.com.tw/voip220rs.htm 
which seems to have better SIP support.

These boxes were originally designed to run H.323.  Since SIP has become 
popular Ovislink added a SIP frontend component to their firmware.  This has 
the effect that you have to configure *both* the H.323 component *and* the 
SIP component to get the box going.  It does work, but it can be a pain to 
configure (try reading the fairly comprhensive manual two or three time and 
then having two or three goes at it before it all works). Read the user 
manual (http://www.ovislinkcorp.com/Manuals/VoIP800-400%20manual.pdf), the 
separate SIP guide (http://www.ovislinkcorp.com/Manuals/SIP_Guide.pdf) and 
the VOIP command reference 
(http://www.ovislinkcorp.com/Manuals/VoIPReference.pdf) to figure out 
whether they do what you want.

These boxes can be rediculously cheap on occasion.  I've seen new Ovislink 
8-port gateways on eBay for US$200-300 form time to time.  Otherwise, I 
believe that they have distributors in the US/Europe/Australia.

The main problem with using the Ovislink gateways is making sure that they 
have the correct approvals.  For instance I found that I couldn't use one 
here in Australia because they lack A-tick approval (and I'm not about to 
spend the $50K needed to get them tested).  They *appear* to have FCC and CE 
approval, but they would not be the first manufacturer to print approval 
numbers on the case when the approvals did not actually exist.  I'd check 
before I'd use one - using non type-approved equipment can attract very 
large fines.

In general, these boxes are reasonably reliable, or at least reliable as say 
an ADSL modem/router.  If the location was really remote you could place a 
second box at the loaction and a PSTN switch to switch the lines.  Hopefully 
there would be someone on the premises who could unplug the PSTN line from 
box-A and connect them to box-B if necessary.

2.  Telco/Service Provider

I don't use the Ovislink box myself, although I did evaluate them.  After I 
hit the lack of approvals roadblock I mention above, I took a very different 
and much simpler approach.

I found a telco who would do call collection for me.  They had Cisco routers 
in each telephone district in Australia.  Incoming calls on my numbers were 
sent to their routers which sent them directly to my gateway.

Now admittedly this was for a much larger application than you are talking 
about (60 "lines" - actually telephone numbers) are involved.  The
biggest
problem was that the telco would only deliver the calls using H.323 (since 
most business PABX's use H.323 rather than SIP), so I had to build a 
H.32-to-SIP gateway using asterisk (which was a pain to get going - 
asterisk's H.323 support is ideosyncratic).

On one hand the telco approach was cheaper (a monthly charge rather than 
having to buy and house a number of routers).  On the other hand it is an 
ongoing charge.  From memory, the hardware cost represented about 30-40 
months of telco charges.

The compelling reasons for choosing the telco approach are (a) simplicity - 
its a lot simpler to have one gateway rather than a number of different PSTN 
gateways in remote locations; (b) reliability - the telco has around $175M 
is Cisco kit, if something breaks they have a redundent backup standing by.

I hope this gives you a few pointers.

regards
Matthew
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 18:22:03 +1100
> From: David Uzzell <asterisk-list@uzzell.com.au>
> Subject: [Asterisk-Users] FXO to IAX on ethernet. or FXO to SIP on 
> Ethernet
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com>
>
> Now I have searched around and not seen anything to do this.
>
> I want to in remote locations were we need to have single or 2 PSTN
> lines for in dial as little hardware as possible and as stable as
> possible so that they will operate without user intervention.
>
> What I want to do is be able to take a single PSTN line in and go out
> through adsl for the Inet link.
>
> These would be in VERY remote locations like smaller towns so they would
> need to be simple, stable and require little to no user intervention
> after they are installed.
>
> Does anyone know of any hardware that will do this or a way that this
> could be done or ??????