I know this is not strictly an asterisk issue but it is related I guess. Just to let you know that after many calls to Mitel the consensus is that they will be releasing a new version of the 5220 that is dual boot (minet and SIP) next week or the week after. This firmware will only appear on NEW phones manufactured after the release date (no one could confirm but the 23rd of sept was mentioned). When asked if Mitel will ever plan to bring out an updated firmware for existing phones they said they had no plans, so when I said "so does that mean you will never bring out a downloadable firmware upgrade" the answer was "never say never!" (very annoying!) To configure the new phones you have to press and HOLD the up arrow whilst plugging in the power/ethernet, you should then get the option to select SIP. will let you know how I get on with the 5220 with asterisk as and when I get my phone :-) Sam Colin Anderson <ColinA@landmarkmasterbuilder.com> wrote on 01/09/2004 16:36:24:> > > > I will get a packet sniffer on one in a minute.... > > Don't bother, won't work. I already tried. Spoke to some Mitelmucky-mucks> too, and they said nope. You have to get Mitel's SIP-specific phonewhich *is*> a 5220 that's been reflashed. Unfortunately, I have 80 5020's whichcan't be> reflashed to SIP. > > Of course, I would be *very very* interested if you magically got it towork.> Different eyes, and all that... > > > [attachment "ATT17674.txt" deleted by Samuel Luxford-Watts/Winckworths]-------------- Winckworth Sherwood Solicitors and Parliamentary Agents DX 148400 WESTMINSTER 5 : 35 Great Peter Street, London SW1P 3LR Telephone 020 7593 5000 Fax 020 7593 5099 -Confidentiality- This email message and any attachments are confidential; they may be subject to legal professional privilege and are intended for the named recipient only. If you are not the named recipient, please return the message and enclosures immediately and delete them from your system. -Caution- Before advice received only by email (whether by attachment or otherwise) may be relied on, the authenticity of the communication must be verified by means independent of email. -Regulation- The firm is regulated by the Law Society. -Partners- A list of partners is available for inspection at each office of the firm and on the firm's website at http://www.winckworths.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20040914/da3d50c2/attachment.htm
I have had many conflicting conversations with Mitel dealers, resellers and executives, they don't seem to know what they want to do. At one point they say they will be releasing a full line of easily configurable SIP phones, then they take that back, then they say they will be backward compatible with existing SIP released phones, then they take that back. All I can say is that I have been less than impressed with my Mitel SIP phone that I have had for the last year overall and would much rather buy a Snom or Polycom instead of Mitel in the future for the same price. MATT--- -----Original Message----- From: slwatts@winckworths.co.uk [mailto:slwatts@winckworths.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:34 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Cc: colina@landmarkmasterbuilder.com Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Mitel 5010 +5220 I know this is not strictly an asterisk issue but it is related I guess. Just to let you know that after many calls to Mitel the consensus is that they will be releasing a new version of the 5220 that is dual boot (minet and SIP) next week or the week after. This firmware will only appear on NEW phones manufactured after the release date (no one could confirm but the 23rd of sept was mentioned). When asked if Mitel will ever plan to bring out an updated firmware for existing phones they said they had no plans, so when I said "so does that mean you will never bring out a downloadable firmware upgrade" the answer was "never say never!" (very annoying!) To configure the new phones you have to press and HOLD the up arrow whilst plugging in the power/ethernet, you should then get the option to select SIP. will let you know how I get on with the 5220 with asterisk as and when I get my phone :-) Sam Colin Anderson <ColinA@landmarkmasterbuilder.com> wrote on 01/09/2004 16:36:24:> > > > I will get a packet sniffer on one in a minute.... > > Don't bother, won't work. I already tried. Spoke to some Mitel mucky-mucks> too, and they said nope. You have to get Mitel's SIP-specific phone which*is*> a 5220 that's been reflashed. Unfortunately, I have 80 5020's which can'tbe> reflashed to SIP. > > Of course, I would be *very very* interested if you magically got it towork.> Different eyes, and all that... > > > [attachment "ATT17674.txt" deleted by Samuel Luxford-Watts/Winckworths]Winckworth Sherwood Solicitors and Parliamentary Agents DX 148400 WESTMINSTER 5 : 35 Great Peter Street, London SW1P 3LR Telephone 020 7593 5000 Fax 020 7593 5099 Confidentiality This email message and any attachments are confidential; they may be subject to legal professional privilege and are intended for the named recipient only. If you are not the named recipient, please return the message and enclosures immediately and delete them from your system. Caution Before advice received only by email (whether by attachment or otherwise) may be relied on, the authenticity of the communication must be verified by means independent of email. Regulation The firm is regulated by the Law Society. Partners A list of partners is available for inspection at each office of the firm and on the firm's website at www.winckworths.co.uk
My take on this is that Mitel doesn't know internally how they are going to play out interoperability since they have a vested interest in keeping users locked in with MiNet. Of course, lock-in is anathema to the *whole point* of a VoIP system, so this, to me, is a stupid business decision and the fundadmental reason why I am going to replace my 3300 with *. Mitel, IMNSHO, should just deal with interoperability, work with everybody, and focus on making a great box that is more solid than their competitors. ARE YOU LISTENING MITEL? PS a 5220 costs me $1200 Cdn with licences. A Snom costs me $350 Cdn with no licensing nessisary. <sarcasm>Which one would you choose?</sarcasm> -----Original Message----- From: mattf [mailto:mattf@vicimarketing.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 7:50 AM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Mitel 5010 +5220 I have had many conflicting conversations with Mitel dealers, resellers and executives, they don't seem to know what they want to do. At one point they say they will be releasing a full line of easily configurable SIP phones, then they take that back, then they say they will be backward compatible with existing SIP released phones, then they take that back. All I can say is that I have been less than impressed with my Mitel SIP phone that I have had for the last year overall and would much rather buy a Snom or Polycom instead of Mitel in the future for the same price. MATT--- -----Original Message----- From: slwatts@winckworths.co.uk [mailto:slwatts@winckworths.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:34 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Cc: colina@landmarkmasterbuilder.com Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Mitel 5010 +5220 I know this is not strictly an asterisk issue but it is related I guess. Just to let you know that after many calls to Mitel the consensus is that they will be releasing a new version of the 5220 that is dual boot (minet and SIP) next week or the week after. This firmware will only appear on NEW phones manufactured after the release date (no one could confirm but the 23rd of sept was mentioned). When asked if Mitel will ever plan to bring out an updated firmware for existing phones they said they had no plans, so when I said "so does that mean you will never bring out a downloadable firmware upgrade" the answer was "never say never!" (very annoying!) To configure the new phones you have to press and HOLD the up arrow whilst plugging in the power/ethernet, you should then get the option to select SIP. will let you know how I get on with the 5220 with asterisk as and when I get my phone :-) Sam Colin Anderson <ColinA@landmarkmasterbuilder.com> wrote on 01/09/2004 16:36:24:> > > > I will get a packet sniffer on one in a minute.... > > Don't bother, won't work. I already tried. Spoke to some Mitel mucky-mucks> too, and they said nope. You have to get Mitel's SIP-specific phone which*is*> a 5220 that's been reflashed. Unfortunately, I have 80 5020's which can'tbe> reflashed to SIP. > > Of course, I would be *very very* interested if you magically got it towork.> Different eyes, and all that... > > > [attachment "ATT17674.txt" deleted by Samuel Luxford-Watts/Winckworths]Winckworth Sherwood Solicitors and Parliamentary Agents DX 148400 WESTMINSTER 5 : 35 Great Peter Street, London SW1P 3LR Telephone 020 7593 5000 Fax 020 7593 5099 Confidentiality This email message and any attachments are confidential; they may be subject to legal professional privilege and are intended for the named recipient only. If you are not the named recipient, please return the message and enclosures immediately and delete them from your system. Caution Before advice received only by email (whether by attachment or otherwise) may be relied on, the authenticity of the communication must be verified by means independent of email. Regulation The firm is regulated by the Law Society. Partners A list of partners is available for inspection at each office of the firm and on the firm's website at www.winckworths.co.uk _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users