Does anyone know if this phone can or does work with Asterisk ? I have a potential client who wants to throw away their current mitel ip system (keeps crashing on a regular basis - not good for a phone-based company), but are reluctant to purchase new handsets. Thanks. Julian.
Is this the 3300IP system? Those systems *can* be quite good, but need to be up to the latest revision and require a bit of tuning. I'd be interested in your finds regardless and could probably experiment with a 5005, 5010 or even the higher-end ones. I'll ask a former co-worker if I can borrow one for testing.
I am very surprised that you have had problems with a mitel 3300ICP. We have had one installed here for the past year or so and it is a very good system. We did suffer the occaisonal crash and then our system was wiped out by a lightning strike, we had a replacement controller in place and fully working within 3 hours. Since then we have had absolutely no crashes at all. You do need to setup the 3300ICP properly - incorrect configuration can cause you serious nightmares, but then it is a very flexible system. It also seems to be very particular about your network setup. Dont even think about trying to run it over a data network that does not have vlans or QOS. The early software versions were pretty poor, however version 4 is much better and we will soon be upgrading to version 5 so if you want to know how that fares let me know. Their teleworker solution is particularly impressive, although I wish they would release SIP support for their phones and controllers. Anyone know of a project to bring minet to asterisk? Sam Stephen Stull <sstull@gmail.com> wrote on 01/09/2004 13:33:59:> Is this the 3300IP system? Those systems *can* be quite good, but > need to be up to the latest revision and require a bit of tuning. I'd > be interested in your finds regardless and could probably experiment > with a 5005, 5010 or even the higher-end ones. > > I'll ask a former co-worker if I can borrow one for testing. > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users-------------- Winckworth Sherwood Solicitors and Parliamentary Agents DX 148400 WESTMINSTER 5 : 35 Great Peter Street, London SW1P 3LR Telephone 020 7593 5000 Fax 020 7593 5099 -Confidentiality- This email message and any attachments are confidential; they may be subject to legal professional privilege and are intended for the named recipient only. If you are not the named recipient, please return the message and enclosures immediately and delete them from your system. -Caution- Before advice received only by email (whether by attachment or otherwise) may be relied on, the authenticity of the communication must be verified by means independent of email. -Regulation- The firm is regulated by the Law Society. -Partners- A list of partners is available for inspection at each office of the firm and on the firm's website at http://www.winckworths.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20040901/ee20a5a7/attachment.htm
Ditto that. On a Mitel box, A Service Contract Is Your Friend and a Good Interconnect Is Your Best Friend. Our 3300 was loosing conn w/ the phones and loosing sync with our PRI. Our interconnect blamed everything from the LAN to sunspots except the 3300. Because we had a service contract, I insisted that the NSU be replaced, which they did grudgingly and lo! problems ceased. ~3k calls / day from 80 users for 3 years so far - no problems. FWIW, I'm just using QOS. We haven't had any issues with non - VLAN config. However, the reason I'm on this list in the first place is because we are planning to replace the 3300 with * :-) and the reason is simply because the Mitel box is too expensive $$. A 5020 costs us $1200 Cdn. My boss, who approved the system in the first place, likes to tease me and say: "Tell me again why we moved away from a Meridian One?" On topic: The Ipera (the 3300's predecessor) supported SIP, as well as the new, I think it's called 3010 which is throttled to 25 users. Mitel made a stupid decision to drop SIP for the 3300 to try to lock in users with their own proporietary protocol which I have analyzed and it's part IP and part CDS (Cisco Discovery, like SNMP). Because the CDS part is Layer - 2 - ish it's hard to route; my BSD box routes it OK but a Seawall kind of config won't. Grrrr.... -----Original Message----- From: slwatts@winckworths.co.uk [mailto:slwatts@winckworths.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 7:20 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Mitel 5010 I am very surprised that you have had problems with a mitel 3300ICP. We have had one installed here for the past year or so and it is a very good system. We did suffer the occaisonal crash and then our system was wiped out by a lightning strike, we had a replacement controller in place and fully working within 3 hours. Since then we have had absolutely no crashes at all. You do need to setup the 3300ICP properly - incorrect configuration can cause you serious nightmares, but then it is a very flexible system. It also seems to be very particular about your network setup. Dont even think about trying to run it over a data network that does not have vlans or QOS. The early software versions were pretty poor, however version 4 is much better and we will soon be upgrading to version 5 so if you want to know how that fares let me know. Their teleworker solution is particularly impressive, although I wish they would release SIP support for their phones and controllers. Anyone know of a project to bring minet to asterisk? Sam Stephen Stull <sstull@gmail.com> wrote on 01/09/2004 13:33:59:> Is this the 3300IP system? Those systems *can* be quite good, but > need to be up to the latest revision and require a bit of tuning. I'd > be interested in your finds regardless and could probably experiment > with a 5005, 5010 or even the higher-end ones. > > I'll ask a former co-worker if I can borrow one for testing. > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-usersWinckworth Sherwood Solicitors and Parliamentary Agents DX 148400 WESTMINSTER 5 : 35 Great Peter Street, London SW1P 3LR Telephone 020 7593 5000 Fax 020 7593 5099 Confidentiality This email message and any attachments are confidential; they may be subject to legal professional privilege and are intended for the named recipient only. If you are not the named recipient, please return the message and enclosures immediately and delete them from your system. Caution Before advice received only by email (whether by attachment or otherwise) may be relied on, the authenticity of the communication must be verified by means independent of email. Regulation The firm is regulated by the Law Society. Partners A list of partners is available for inspection at each office of the firm and on the firm's website at www.winckworths.co.uk <http://www.winckworths.co.uk> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20040901/4d58bce2/attachment.htm
Fair enough, The MItel is not the most expensive VOIP solution, but as you say - the reason Asterisk is so attractive is its effectively free and you are not locked to a single vendor or support channel. I have only just started looking at Asterisk, I like it a lot, particularly its openness - the Mitel solution is an almost watertight black box :-( I would still like to use the 5220's with asterisk (they cost about the same for us as the cisco 7960's) but are smaller, neater and look more like a phone (surprisingly!) I will get a packet sniffer on one in a minute.... Sam Colin Anderson <ColinA@landmarkmasterbuilder.com> wrote on 01/09/2004 15:24:50:> Ditto that. On a Mitel box, A Service Contract Is Your Friend and a Good> Interconnect Is Your Best Friend. Our 3300 was loosing conn w/ thephones and> loosing sync with our PRI. Our interconnect blamed everything from theLAN to> sunspots except the 3300. Because we had a service contract, I insistedthat> the NSU be replaced, which they did grudgingly and lo! problems ceased.~3k> calls / day from 80 users for 3 years so far - no problems. > > FWIW, I'm just using QOS. We haven't had any issues with non - VLANconfig.> However, the reason I'm on this list in the first place is because weare> planning to replace the 3300 with * :-) and the reason is simply becausethe> Mitel box is too expensive $$. A 5020 costs us $1200 Cdn. My boss, who > approved the system in the first place, likes to tease me and say: "Tellme> again why we moved away from a Meridian One?" > > On topic: The Ipera (the 3300's predecessor) supported SIP, as well asthe> new, I think it's called 3010 which is throttled to 25 users. Mitel madea> stupid decision to drop SIP for the 3300 to try to lock in users withtheir> own proporietary protocol which I have analyzed and it's part IP andpart CDS> (Cisco Discovery, like SNMP). Because the CDS part is Layer - 2 -ish it's> hard to route; my BSD box routes it OK but a Seawall kind of configwon't. Grrrr....> > -----Original Message----- > From: slwatts@winckworths.co.uk [mailto:slwatts@winckworths.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 7:20 AM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Mitel 5010 > > I am very surprised that you have had problems with a mitel 3300ICP. Wehave> had one installed here for the past year or so and it is a very goodsystem.> We did suffer the occaisonal crash and then our system was wiped out bya> lightning strike, we had a replacement controller in place and fullyworking> within 3 hours. Since then we have had absolutely no crashes at all. > > You do need to setup the 3300ICP properly - incorrect configuration cancause> you serious nightmares, but then it is a very flexible system. It alsoseems> to be very particular about your network setup. Dont even think abouttrying> to run it over a data network that does not have vlans or QOS. > > The early software versions were pretty poor, however version 4 is muchbetter> and we will soon be upgrading to version 5 so if you want to know howthat> fares let me know. > > Their teleworker solution is particularly impressive, although I wishthey> would release SIP support for their phones and controllers. > > Anyone know of a project to bring minet to asterisk? > > Sam > > Stephen Stull <sstull@gmail.com> wrote on 01/09/2004 13:33:59: > > > Is this the 3300IP system? Those systems *can* be quite good, but > > need to be up to the latest revision and require a bit of tuning. 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> I will get a packet sniffer on one in a minute....Don't bother, won't work. I already tried. Spoke to some Mitel mucky-mucks too, and they said nope. You have to get Mitel's SIP-specific phone which *is* a 5220 that's been reflashed. Unfortunately, I have 80 5020's which can't be reflashed to SIP. Of course, I would be *very very* interested if you magically got it to work. Different eyes, and all that... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20040901/d61b7caa/attachment.htm
ok - just spoke to some (non-tech) at mitel...apparently they are going to release a firmware image for the 5220 that is dual boot (Minet and SIP). One of their techs is gving me a call back today or tomorrow (hopefully) with more details.... fingers crossed it will be a downloadable item and just not hardcoded in NEW phones. Sam Colin Anderson <ColinA@landmarkmasterbuilder.com> wrote on 01/09/2004 16:36:24:> > > > I will get a packet sniffer on one in a minute.... > > Don't bother, won't work. I already tried. Spoke to some Mitelmucky-mucks> too, and they said nope. You have to get Mitel's SIP-specific phonewhich *is*> a 5220 that's been reflashed. Unfortunately, I have 80 5020's whichcan't be> reflashed to SIP. > > Of course, I would be *very very* interested if you magically got it towork.> Different eyes, and all that... > > > [attachment "ATT17674.txt" deleted by Samuel Luxford-Watts/Winckworths]-------------- Winckworth Sherwood Solicitors and Parliamentary Agents DX 148400 WESTMINSTER 5 : 35 Great Peter Street, London SW1P 3LR Telephone 020 7593 5000 Fax 020 7593 5099 -Confidentiality- This email message and any attachments are confidential; they may be subject to legal professional privilege and are intended for the named recipient only. If you are not the named recipient, please return the message and enclosures immediately and delete them from your system. -Caution- Before advice received only by email (whether by attachment or otherwise) may be relied on, the authenticity of the communication must be verified by means independent of email. -Regulation- The firm is regulated by the Law Society. -Partners- A list of partners is available for inspection at each office of the firm and on the firm's website at http://www.winckworths.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20040901/bcfdd457/attachment.htm