I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for a cost effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need some of the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote offices (long distance savings). At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel bank, but that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way off???? Is there another way that is more cost effective?
On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote:> I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for a cost > effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need some of > the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote offices > (long distance savings). > > At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel bank, but > that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be roughly > $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way off???? > > Is there another way that is more cost effective?That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less, but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start. -- Steven Critchfield <critch@basesys.com>
One solution that we're investigating is using a gateway product instead of a channel bank. There's a couple to choose from...take a look at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-VoIP+Gateways Sounds like you want one of the FXO devices. We haven't actually purchased ours yet, but we're looking into buying one of the Vegastream 50 Analog units. 10 incoming FXO ports. Saves us the cost of a proper channel bank, and a T1 card for the * server. I'm not recommending them specifically (just an example... you may be able to get better prices from other resellers....), but Atacomm (http://www.atacomm.com) lists the price of a Vega 50 FXO at $2350, a Multitech MVP810 at $2999, AudioCodes MP108 FXO at $1429. (US $)> -----Original Message----- > From: Darren Martz [mailto:darren@shelbrook.com] > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:31 AM > To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach > > > I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am > looking for a cost > effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. > We need some of > the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support > remote offices > (long distance savings). > > At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a > channel bank, but > that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would > be roughly > $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is > way off???? > > Is there another way that is more cost effective? > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20040123/40d696a6/attachment.htm
Do you have to continue to use the existing handsets? You should look at replacing the existing phones with SIP phones. Paul Mahler mail:pmahler@signate.com phone: 650.207.9855 fax: 877.408.0105 -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steven Critchfield Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:04 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote:> I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for acost> effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need someof> the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote offices > (long distance savings). > > At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel bank,but> that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be roughly > $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way off???? > > Is there another way that is more cost effective?That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less, but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start. -- Steven Critchfield <critch@basesys.com> _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
>>>>> "Darren" == Darren Martz <darren@shelbrook.com> writes:Darren> Is there another way that is more cost effective? Get a quote on an 8 trunk voice T1 and on an 8B+D pri from your telco -- and any clecs in the area. If it is competative you may not need the channel bank.... -JimC
Rich Adamson wrote:>>Two Voicetronix Openline 4 port FXO cards would do the trick. They run about $550 each. > > > Their web site does not mention asterisk drivers. Is this card supported? >The drivers are for Linux. Yes the card is supported. See vpb.conf.> Any idea how it compares to a pair of external Mediatrix 1204 Sip FXO boxes?I have no tested Mediatrix. But with Multitech 8 ports, I do not see any difference from the FXO point of view. Jorge
Thanks Chris!! Running copper does not seem logical to me either. The last time I checked (Sept03), the cost of 8 lines in a T1 was almost double the cost of split lines. I have been considering NuFone, and have investigated it. We have also been looking for a decent IP based business phone, but I'll post a separate question for that :) I have three businesses all with the same problem. A decent T1 price would be the best, so I could centralize everything and only outsource the long distance side. I'm in Vancouver, BC Canada with the "Telus Inc" monopoly. What range of prices do most American telco's charge for a T1?? The price (in C$) I was quoted was $450/m plus $27/m per voice channel with zero features. Plus there was a $1200 setup fee. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Albertson" <chrisalbertson90278@yahoo.com> To: "Darren Martz" <darren@shelbrook.com> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:49 AM Subject: Fwd: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach First get rid of those 8 analog lines. then you'l have two options: 1) Have the local phone company provide you with a T1 line that you can plug directly into the Digium card. After all it seems silly for ther phone company to split out the lines to 8 pairs runs 16 coppr wires only to have you re-combine them. 2) Get 8 DID numbers from a VOIP provider like NuFone or Iconnect and have all your incomming calls come in over your Internet link. Now yu've got zero hardawre, except for the PC. I suppose you would want local extensions... Depending on the numbr you might want a channel bank and anlog desk phones or go with all IP Phones --- Darren Martz <darren@shelbrook.com> wrote:> From: "Darren Martz" <darren@shelbrook.com> > To: <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:30:42 -0800 > > I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for > a cost > effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need > some of > the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote > offices > (long distance savings). > > At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel > bank, but > that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be > roughly > $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way > off???? > > Is there another way that is more cost effective? > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users====Chris Albertson Home: 310-376-1029 chrisalbertson90278@yahoo.com Cell: 310-990-7550 Office: 310-336-5189 Christopher.J.Albertson@aero.org KG6OMK __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/
Hey neighbour! I'll be posting on here what sort of experience we'll have with 8 (actually 10) incoming FXO lines going to a Vegastream gateway...> -----Original Message----- > From: Darren Martz [mailto:darren@shelbrook.com] > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:10 PM > To: Chris Albertson; asterisk-users@lists.digium.com > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach > > > Thanks Chris!! > > Running copper does not seem logical to me either. The last > time I checked > (Sept03), the cost of 8 lines in a T1 was almost double the > cost of split > lines. > > I have been considering NuFone, and have investigated it. We > have also been > looking for a decent IP based business phone, but I'll post a separate > question for that :) > > I have three businesses all with the same problem. A decent > T1 price would > be the best, so I could centralize everything and only > outsource the long > distance side. > > I'm in Vancouver, BC Canada with the "Telus Inc" monopoly. > What range of prices do most American telco's charge for a T1?? > > The price (in C$) I was quoted was $450/m plus $27/m per > voice channel with > zero features. Plus there was a $1200 setup fee. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Albertson" <chrisalbertson90278@yahoo.com> > To: "Darren Martz" <darren@shelbrook.com> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:49 AM > Subject: Fwd: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach > > > > > First get rid of those 8 analog lines. then you'l have > two options: > > 1) Have the local phone company provide you with a T1 line > that you can plug directly into the Digium card. After all > it seems silly for ther phone company to split out the lines > to 8 pairs runs 16 coppr wires only to have you re-combine > them. > > 2) Get 8 DID numbers from a VOIP provider like NuFone or > Iconnect and have all your incomming calls come in over > your Internet link. Now yu've got zero hardawre, except for > the PC. > > I suppose you would want local extensions... Depending on > the numbr you might want a channel bank and anlog desk phones > or go with all IP Phones > > > > > --- Darren Martz <darren@shelbrook.com> wrote: > > From: "Darren Martz" <darren@shelbrook.com> > > To: <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> > > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach > > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:30:42 -0800 > > > > I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for > > a cost > > effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need > > some of > > the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote > > offices > > (long distance savings). > > > > At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel > > bank, but > > that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be > > roughly > > $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way > > off???? > > > > Is there another way that is more cost effective? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > ====> Chris Albertson > Home: 310-376-1029 chrisalbertson90278@yahoo.com > Cell: 310-990-7550 > Office: 310-336-5189 Christopher.J.Albertson@aero.org > KG6OMK > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20040124/cb288f10/attachment.htm
On Friday 23 January 2004 12:18, Paul Mahler wrote:> On Friday, January 23, 2004 at 8:04 AM, Steven Critchfield wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote: > > > I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking > > > for a cost > > > effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We > > > need some of > > > the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote > > > offices (long distance savings). > > > > > > At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel > > > bank, but > > > that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be > > > roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate > > > is way off???? > > > > > > Is there another way that is more cost effective? > > > > That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less, > > but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start. > > Do you have to continue to use the existing handsets? You should look > at replacing the existing phones with SIP phones.He did say "cost-effective". Last I checked, 24 SIP phones (unless they are Grandstreams) will cost far more than a channel bank. -Tilghman
How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or any mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option? -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 5:35 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach On Friday 23 January 2004 12:18, Paul Mahler wrote:> On Friday, January 23, 2004 at 8:04 AM, Steven Critchfield wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote: > > > I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking > > > for a cost > > > effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We > > > need some of > > > the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote > > > offices (long distance savings). > > > > > > At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel > > > bank, but > > > that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be > > > roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate > > > is way off???? > > > > > > Is there another way that is more cost effective? > > > > That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less, > > but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start. > > Do you have to continue to use the existing handsets? You should look > at replacing the existing phones with SIP phones.He did say "cost-effective". Last I checked, 24 SIP phones (unless they are Grandstreams) will cost far more than a channel bank. -Tilghman _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
What card would that be? I would be interested to test it out. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Asterisk" <thisemailaddressisbogus@risehigh.com> To: <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:00 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach> How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or any > mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com > [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tilghman > Lesher > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 5:35 PM > To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach > > On Friday 23 January 2004 12:18, Paul Mahler wrote: > > On Friday, January 23, 2004 at 8:04 AM, Steven Critchfield wrote: > > > On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote: > > > > I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking > > > > for a cost > > > > effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We > > > > need some of > > > > the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote > > > > offices (long distance savings). > > > > > > > > At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel > > > > bank, but > > > > that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be > > > > roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate > > > > is way off???? > > > > > > > > Is there another way that is more cost effective? > > > > > > That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less, > > > but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start. > > > > Do you have to continue to use the existing handsets? You should look > > at replacing the existing phones with SIP phones. > > He did say "cost-effective". Last I checked, 24 SIP phones (unless they > are Grandstreams) will cost far more than a channel bank. > > -Tilghman > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
well quit with the suspense already and tell us who! :-) -----Original Message----- From: Rob Fugina [mailto:robf@geekthing.com] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:56 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 12:00:49PM -0800, Asterisk wrote:> How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or > any mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option?I know (me) someone (me) who'd make a (me) really good (me) beta tester (me)... -- Rob Fugina, Systems Guy robf@geekthing.com -- http://www.geekthing.com My firewall filters MS Office attachments. Behind every good computer - is a jumble of wire. _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Will this product be available in the next few weeks? -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Asterisk Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:01 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or any mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option? -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 5:35 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach On Friday 23 January 2004 12:18, Paul Mahler wrote:> On Friday, January 23, 2004 at 8:04 AM, Steven Critchfield wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote: > > > I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking > > > for a cost > > > effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We > > > need some of > > > the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote > > > offices (long distance savings). > > > > > > At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel > > > bank, but > > > that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be > > > roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate > > > is way off???? > > > > > > Is there another way that is more cost effective? > > > > That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less, > > but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start. > > Do you have to continue to use the existing handsets? You should look > at replacing the existing phones with SIP phones.He did say "cost-effective". Last I checked, 24 SIP phones (unless they are Grandstreams) will cost far more than a channel bank. -Tilghman _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users