I''m on Mac OSX and I''m about to rip my hair out over how hard it is to install rails. I''ve installed rubygems and am typing "ruby setup.rb" in the command line and get "No such file or directory." I''ve never had to use command lines before so this is alien to me. Can''t they just make installation GUI-based for non-geeks like myself? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Follow the instructions here and you should be good to go: http://developer.apple.com/tools/rubyonrails.html http://hivelogic.com/articles/2005/12/01/ruby_rails_lighttpd_mysql_tiger I''m a complete Mac moron and it was really easy. On 3/18/06, Oskar <xeubie@hotmail.com> wrote:> > I''m on Mac OSX and I''m about to rip my hair out over how hard it is to > install rails. I''ve installed rubygems and am typing "ruby setup.rb" in > the command line and get "No such file or directory." > > I''ve never had to use command lines before so this is alien to me. Can''t > they just make installation GUI-based for non-geeks like myself? > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060318/558a8d56/attachment-0001.html
Larry White wrote:> Follow the instructions here and you should be good to go: > > http://developer.apple.com/tools/rubyonrails.html > http://hivelogic.com/articles/2005/12/01/ruby_rails_lighttpd_mysql_tiger > > I''m a complete Mac moron and it was really easy.Thank you. I''m on an intel mac mini, BTW. I hope it''s not powerpc-only. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
No, it''s not. I am on intel too and used the hivelogic article ... Went totally smooth. On 3/18/06, Oskar <xeubie@hotmail.com> wrote:> > Larry White wrote: > > Follow the instructions here and you should be good to go: > > > > http://developer.apple.com/tools/rubyonrails.html > > http://hivelogic.com/articles/2005/12/01/ruby_rails_lighttpd_mysql_tiger > > > > I''m a complete Mac moron and it was really easy. > > Thank you. I''m on an intel mac mini, BTW. I hope it''s not powerpc-only. > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060318/86b25611/attachment.html
Mariano Kamp wrote:> No, it''s not. I am on intel too and used the hivelogic article ... Went > totally smooth.The hivelogic article is extremely confusing. I almost want to switch to python over this. Why the hell do I have to do all of this? I can''t even get "mate ~/.bash_login" to work (apparently this is an important step). -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
did you install textmate yet? It''s not completely trivial but if you get it installed you''ll be much better off using rails than python. I''ve tried both and I''m really amazed at what you can do with rails. good luck. On 3/18/06, Oskar <xeubie@hotmail.com> wrote:> > Mariano Kamp wrote: > > No, it''s not. I am on intel too and used the hivelogic article ... Went > > totally smooth. > > The hivelogic article is extremely confusing. I almost want to switch to > python over this. Why the hell do I have to do all of this? I can''t even > get "mate ~/.bash_login" to work (apparently this is an important step). > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060318/1ef5c654/attachment.html
Oskar wrote:> Mariano Kamp wrote: >> No, it''s not. I am on intel too and used the hivelogic article ... Went >> totally smooth. > > The hivelogic article is extremely confusing. I almost want to switch to > python over this. Why the hell do I have to do all of this? I can''t even > get "mate ~/.bash_login" to work (apparently this is an important step).That will only work if you have textmate installed, and you probably have to have the mate alias defined. You should install Rails via Locomotive if you know nothing about the command line. Ray
Larry White wrote:> did you install textmate yet? > > It''s not completely trivial but if you get it installed you''ll be much > better off using rails than python. I''ve tried both and I''m really > amazed > at what you can do with rails. > > good luck.Yes but I''m trying to re-install it. I agree that rails seems nicer, I''m just a little frustrated. Thanks for bearing with me, I''m sure I''ll find a way to install it eventually. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Ray Baxter wrote:> Oskar wrote: >> Mariano Kamp wrote: >>> No, it''s not. I am on intel too and used the hivelogic article ... Went >>> totally smooth. >> >> The hivelogic article is extremely confusing. I almost want to switch to >> python over this. Why the hell do I have to do all of this? I can''t even >> get "mate ~/.bash_login" to work (apparently this is an important step). > > That will only work if you have textmate installed, and you probably > have to have the mate alias defined. > > You should install Rails via Locomotive if you know nothing about the > command line. > > RayYeah, it''s working this time so I''ll continue with the hivelogic article. If I still have problems I''ll try Locomotive. Thanks. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Oskar, I''m on Mac too, but on the powerpc platform. I used the following download & article by Tony Arnold: http://www.tonyarnold.com/articles/2005/08/10/rolling-with-ruby-on- rails-on-mac-os-x-tiger-for-beginners It does not get any easier than that ... On Mar 18, 2006, at 9:59 PM, Oskar wrote:> Ray Baxter wrote: >> Oskar wrote: >>> Mariano Kamp wrote: >>>> No, it''s not. I am on intel too and used the hivelogic >>>> article ... Went >>>> totally smooth. >>> >>> The hivelogic article is extremely confusing. I almost want to >>> switch to >>> python over this. Why the hell do I have to do all of this? I >>> can''t even >>> get "mate ~/.bash_login" to work (apparently this is an important >>> step). >> >> That will only work if you have textmate installed, and you probably >> have to have the mate alias defined. >> >> You should install Rails via Locomotive if you know nothing about the >> command line. >> >> Ray > > Yeah, it''s working this time so I''ll continue with the hivelogic > article. If I still have problems I''ll try Locomotive. > > Thanks. > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
> I''m on Mac too, but on the powerpc platform.Me too :-)> I used the following download & article by Tony Arnold: > http://www.tonyarnold.com/articles/2005/08/10/rolling-with-ruby-on- > rails-on-mac-os-x-tiger-for-beginnersAnd when you start feeling comfortable using OS X and the terminal, I would advise you to take a closer look at darwinports (darwinports.org). It makes it somewhat trivial to install command line based programs and services like postgresql/ruby/lighttpd etc. It takes care of dependies so installing ruby will also install libiconv, readline, openssl and zlib if they aren''t present and thus shorten the nice installation-howto mentioned erlier in this thread so you can omit libiconv, readline etc. Doing a port info ruby will show the following information: claus-guttesens-power-mac-g4~%>port info ruby ruby 1.8.4, Revision 2, lang/ruby (Variants: darwin) http://www.ruby-lang.org/ Ruby is the interpreted scripting language for quick and easy object-oriented programming. It has many features to process text files and to do system management tasks (as in Perl). It is simple, straight-forward, extensible, and portable. Happy hacking. regards Claus
http://locomotive.raaum.org/home/show/HomePage -- -- Tom Mornini On Mar 18, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Oskar wrote:> I''m on Mac OSX and I''m about to rip my hair out over how hard it is to > install rails. I''ve installed rubygems and am typing "ruby > setup.rb" in > the command line and get "No such file or directory." > > I''ve never had to use command lines before so this is alien to me. > Can''t > they just make installation GUI-based for non-geeks like myself? > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Or even better is the nubyon rails ru-ra-lin.sh script which will install all the stuff for you in one script: http://nubyonrails.com/files/ru-ra-lim.sh.zip The only thing to change on an intel mac is the last part that downloads mysql. you need to change that to use the intel version universal binary of mysql. But the rest will get installed for you very easiely -Ezra On Mar 18, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Tom Mornini wrote:> http://locomotive.raaum.org/home/show/HomePage > > -- > -- Tom Mornini > > On Mar 18, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Oskar wrote: > >> I''m on Mac OSX and I''m about to rip my hair out over how hard it >> is to >> install rails. I''ve installed rubygems and am typing "ruby >> setup.rb" in >> the command line and get "No such file or directory." >> >> I''ve never had to use command lines before so this is alien to me. >> Can''t >> they just make installation GUI-based for non-geeks like myself? >> >> -- >> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails mailing list >> Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org >> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Sorry but its not confusing in the slightest. Even if you have no experience compiling apps it lists every single thing you need to do in detail. You don''t HAVE to go down the compiling your own ruby/gems/fastcgi/lighty route but the article lists the benefits. If you are a programmer/developer, how can you be scared of the command line??? On 3/18/06, Oskar <xeubie@hotmail.com> wrote:> Mariano Kamp wrote: > > No, it''s not. I am on intel too and used the hivelogic article ... Went > > totally smooth. > > The hivelogic article is extremely confusing. I almost want to switch to > python over this. Why the hell do I have to do all of this? I can''t even > get "mate ~/.bash_login" to work (apparently this is an important step). > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Cheers, Luke Redpath www.lukeredpath.co.uk
I''m not trying to be a jerk or anything; I''m honestly curious: why would a self-described "non-geek" be doing development? ~Avdi On 3/18/06, Oskar <xeubie@hotmail.com> wrote:> I''m on Mac OSX and I''m about to rip my hair out over how hard it is to > install rails. I''ve installed rubygems and am typing "ruby setup.rb" in > the command line and get "No such file or directory." > > I''ve never had to use command lines before so this is alien to me. Can''t > they just make installation GUI-based for non-geeks like myself? > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
On 19 Mar 2006, at 18:10, Avdi Grimm wrote:> I''m not trying to be a jerk or anything; I''m honestly curious: why > would a self-described "non-geek" be doing development?I was thinking that - the RAD hype over Rails seems to be getting all sorts of people interested, but what''s going to happen the moment they need to hit script/console ? Maybe Rails is becoming a victim of its own hype? The number of questions on this list that seem to need answers as to how to become a developer, not just how to use Rails, consistently makes me think that somehow the impression has leaked out that "anybody" can and should code Rails apps, whereas the truth is more likely to be you need to be committed to becoming a developer, or already have experience of developing, for Rails to be of any use. Rails is great, but I''m not going to point my Mum to it when she wants to set-up an online store.... :-) That said, anybody who wants to go down that route and make the effort, we should be cheering along. :-)
I think you''re right, however in comparison to the one-click Windows installer, the Mac OSX installation (i.e. using Terminal) seems a little bit unuserfriendly. We could do with a one-click installer on Mac OSX. The subject of this discussion might as well be "Rails is overcomplicated to install on Mac OSX" If I knew how to create an installer (Mac OSX Package) which installs all that is needed to run rails I would do it. (Ruby 1.8.4, RubyGems 0.8.11, fcgi-2.4.0, ruby-fcgi-0.8.6, pcre-6.6, lighttpd-1.4.11) There is Tony Arnold''s installer, but I also used the article on hivelogic to get myself a Rails environment (with lighttpd and now with Ruby 1.8.4). PackageMaker.app should be able to create these packages, but how? If somebody is willing to help me set it up, I''m willing to maintain it and keep it up to date. And if you use RadRails (for example), there''s no need to go to the Terminal to develop Rails applications (though I do and use TextMate). Regards, Tom. On Mar 19, 2006, at 9:53 PM, Paul Robinson wrote:> On 19 Mar 2006, at 18:10, Avdi Grimm wrote: > >> I''m not trying to be a jerk or anything; I''m honestly curious: why >> would a self-described "non-geek" be doing development? > > I was thinking that - the RAD hype over Rails seems to be getting > all sorts of people interested, but what''s going to happen the > moment they need to hit script/console ? > > Maybe Rails is becoming a victim of its own hype? The number of > questions on this list that seem to need answers as to how to > become a developer, not just how to use Rails, consistently makes > me think that somehow the impression has leaked out that "anybody" > can and should code Rails apps, whereas the truth is more likely to > be you need to be committed to becoming a developer, or already > have experience of developing, for Rails to be of any use. Rails is > great, but I''m not going to point my Mum to it when she wants to > set-up an online store.... :-) > > That said, anybody who wants to go down that route and make the > effort, we should be cheering along. :-) > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
On 3/19/06, Paul Robinson <paul@iconoplex.co.uk> wrote:> Maybe Rails is becoming a victim of its own hype?Seems unlikely to me. Rails only seems "hyped" to us because we''re already tuned into the developer community. Apart from Slashdot the only places I''ve seen Rails boosted are programmer''s blogs, Freenode IRC channels, technical mailing lists, and websites like O''Reillynet - all places I''m only looking at in the first place because I''m a developer. And you need to be a geek of some variety even to be reading Slashdot. I''d be interested to know how any self-identified "non-geeks" are found their way to Rails, and what they expect from it. ~Avdi
On Mar 19, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Avdi Grimm wrote:> On 3/19/06, Paul Robinson <paul@iconoplex.co.uk> wrote: >> Maybe Rails is becoming a victim of its own hype? > > Seems unlikely to me. Rails only seems "hyped" to us because we''re > already tuned into the developer community. Apart from Slashdot the > only places I''ve seen Rails boosted are programmer''s blogs, Freenode > IRC channels, technical mailing lists, and websites like O''Reillynet - > all places I''m only looking at in the first place because I''m a > developer. And you need to be a geek of some variety even to be > reading Slashdot.Not trying to pick nits, but the WSJ had a front of section article that prominently featured RoR about a month ago. And then there are these: <http://www.loudthinking.com/arc/000576.html> -- Jason Perkins jperkins@sneer.org "The computer allows you to make mistakes faster than any other invention, with the possible exception of handguns and tequila."
I stand corrected. Shows how dilligently I follow the main stream media! ~Avdi On 3/19/06, Jason Perkins <jperkins@sneer.org> wrote:> Not trying to pick nits, but the WSJ had a front of section article > that prominently featured RoR about a month ago. And then there are > these: > > <http://www.loudthinking.com/arc/000576.html>
>>>>> "Tom" == Tom de Grunt <tom@degrunt.nl> writes:> I think you''re right, however in comparison to the one-click Windows > installer, the Mac OSX installation (i.e. using Terminal) seems a > little bit unuserfriendly. We could do with a one-click installer on > Mac OSX.This already exists, except that it doesn''t even require an installer, simply a drag-n-drop to the Applications folder (or whereever one wants it). It''s called Locomotive and you''ll find it here: http://locomotive.raaum.org/home/show/HomePage -- Calle Dybedahl <calle@cyberpomo.com> http://www.livejournal.com/users/cdybedahl/ "Let me answer that question with a headbutt." -- Buffy, Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Paul Robinson wrote:> Maybe Rails is becoming a victim of its own hype?I''ve been saying this for a while... Somehow a lot of people are getting the impression that Rails is magic. Ok, well, a lot of it is pretty close to magic, but you still have to write code. You still have to know what you''re doing. In fact, Rails expects you to *plan* out your app more than throwing together a PHP site would. And, in a lot of ways, Ruby can be a more confounding language to program in than many others. In other words, there is a learning curve just like any new technology (at least for most people... except Derek ;-) ). b
On Mar 19, 2006, at 5:32 PM, Ben Munat wrote:> Paul Robinson wrote: >> Maybe Rails is becoming a victim of its own hype? > > I''ve been saying this for a while... Somehow a lot of people are > getting the impression that Rails is magic. Ok, well, a lot of it > is pretty close to magic, but you still have to write code. You > still have to know what you''re doing. In fact, Rails expects you to > *plan* out your app more than throwing together a PHP site would. > And, in a lot of ways, Ruby can be a more confounding language to > program in than many others. In other words, there is a learning > curve just like any new technology (at least for most people... > except Derek ;-) ). >lol -Derrick
Whoops, sorry I butchered your name... and I''ll leave you alone now... I promise... <crosses fingers...> :-) b Derrick Spell wrote:> > On Mar 19, 2006, at 5:32 PM, Ben Munat wrote: > >> Paul Robinson wrote: >> >>> Maybe Rails is becoming a victim of its own hype? >> >> >> I''ve been saying this for a while... Somehow a lot of people are >> getting the impression that Rails is magic. Ok, well, a lot of it is >> pretty close to magic, but you still have to write code. You still >> have to know what you''re doing. In fact, Rails expects you to *plan* >> out your app more than throwing together a PHP site would. And, in a >> lot of ways, Ruby can be a more confounding language to program in >> than many others. In other words, there is a learning curve just >> like any new technology (at least for most people... except Derek ;-) ). >> > > lol > > -Derrick > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
On Sunday, March 19, 2006, at 10:36 PM, Tom de Grunt wrote:>I think you''re right, however in comparison to the one-click Windows >installer, the Mac OSX installation (i.e. using Terminal) seems a >little bit unuserfriendly. We could do with a one-click installer on >Mac OSX. The subject of this discussion might as well be "Rails is >overcomplicated to install on Mac OSX" >Others have noted it on this thread, but I have written a small program called "Locomotive" (http://locomotive.raaum.org) which is a one-click solution to Rails development on Mac OS X. (It works just fine on intel, and the next version will be a Universal Binary). The entire installation and configure process for Locomotive is: 1. Download, 2. Copy to Applications folder, 3. Run. Now, it''s also "opinionated software". It doesn''t modify your system in any way, so it can''t mess up your system in any way. If you know what you are doing and want to modify your system, use one of the compile recipes around. It is a _development_ solution for OS X; it is probably not a good choice for _deployment_ on OS X. If you want to deploy on OS X, you''re probably best off using one of the compile recipes. Starting with Locomotive doesn''t bind you forever to the program. If you start with Locomotive and find that it isn''t working out for you, you can delete it with one easy drag to the Trash and head on down the custom-compile road (the Rails applications you started with Locomotive will work just fine with your shiny new custom compiled system). -r -- Ryan Raaum http://www.rockefeller.edu -- Bacterial Pathogenesis and Immunology http://www.worldmartial.com -- Black Belt Instructor http://locomotive.raaum.org -- Self contained one-click Rails for Mac OS X -- Posted with http://DevLists.com. Sign up and save your time!