Hi, I''ve been doing most of my initial playing with rails on a windows system - but wish to switch to a dedicated linux box for this. Are there any particular distro''s to avoid / recommend. I prefer debian for my other stuff, but thought i''d ask before going ahead. :) Cheers -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Debian Sarge works great. Cheers, Ed On 4/21/06, Guest <karl.wheeler@adfen.com> wrote:> Hi, > > I''ve been doing most of my initial playing with rails on a windows > system - but wish to switch to a dedicated linux box for this. > > Are there any particular distro''s to avoid / recommend. I prefer debian > for my other stuff, but thought i''d ask before going ahead. :) > > Cheers > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Edward Frederick wrote:> Debian Sarge works great.I will second that, apart from getting lighttpd working which is a complete pain in the arse. Such a pain in the arse that I used Apache and mod_fcgid instead (http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/Debian+mod_fastcgi+Notes). It has been fine so far. Where I had previously had stability issues with mod_fcgi, mod_fcgid is working great. Will.
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 12:56:02PM +0100, will wrote: } Edward Frederick wrote: } >Debian Sarge works great. } } I will second that, apart from getting lighttpd working which is a } complete pain in the arse. Such a pain in the arse that I used Apache } and mod_fcgid instead } (http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/Debian+mod_fastcgi+Notes). } } It has been fine so far. Where I had previously had stability issues } with mod_fcgi, mod_fcgid is working great. I never tried anything other than Apache2 + mod_fcgid, and I had little trouble setting it up. I use a Debian Testing/Unstable mix (though I''d use sarge for deployment). Incidentally, if you want rubygems (you probably do) and you want to keep them in /usr/local/lib instead of /usr/lib (following Debian policy), you''ll need to do some work. I''m including a shell script that will let you install gems in /usr/local (or wherever). There is also some attempt to wrap gems in Debian packages so that they are managed by apt/dpkg, but I don''t know how far that effort has gotten. Also, anything you can install via apt (e.g. RMagick, native postgresql ruby driver, etc.), you should. } Will. --Greg #!/bin/sh if test $# -ne 1 || test ! -d "$1" then echo "Usage: $0 <destination dir>" >&2 exit 1 elif test ! -r setup.rb then echo "Please run from the toplevel RubyGems source directory" >&2 exit 2 fi PREFIX="`sh -c \"cd \"$1\"; /bin/pwd\"`" GEM_HOME="$PREFIX/lib/site_ruby/gems" export GEM_HOME if test -d "$GEM_HOME" then cat <<-EOF >&2 The GEM_HOME directory already exists. Overwriting an existing install will not work well. If you intend to reinstall, please first remove $GEM_HOME EOF exit 3 elif ! mkdir -p "$GEM_HOME" then cat <<-EOF >&2 You do not have permission to install in the directory selected. Perhaps you meant to install as root? EOF exit 4 fi while test ! -e "$GEM_HOME/bin" do echo -n "Where should executables be installed [$GEM_HOME/bin]? " >&2 read dest if test "$dest" = "" -a "$dest" = "$GEM_HOME/bin" then dest="$GEM_HOME/bin" mkdir "$dest" elif test -d "$dest" then dest="`sh -c ''cd \"$dest\"; pwd''`" ln -s "$dest" "$GEM_HOME/bin" else echo "You must choose an existing directory." >&2 fi done ruby setup.rb config --prefix="$PREFIX" --siteruby=\$prefix/lib/site_ruby && \ ruby setup.rb install cat <<EOF >&2 ################################################################################ Be sure to set the GEM_HOME environment variable in your shell''s init/config file to ''$GEM_HOME'' For Bourne shell derivatives, add the following lines to your ~/.profile or the system-wide /etc/profile: GEM_HOME="$GEM_HOME" export GEM_HOME For C shell derivatives, add the following line to your ~/.cshrc (or ~/.tcshrc) or the system-wide /etc/csh.cshrc: setenv GEM_HOME "$GEM_HOME" ################################################################################ EOF exit 0 USERID="`id -ru`" DFLTSHELL="`grep '':''$USERID'':'' /etc/passwd | head -1 | cut -d: -f7`" PREFIX="/tmp/$$" $DFLTSHELL -c "export HOME && touch $PREFIX.sh || touch $PREFIX.csh" 2>/dev/null if test -e $PREFIX.csh then cat <<-EOF >&2 Your shell seems to be a C shell derivative. Be sure to add the following line to your ~/.cshrc (or ~/.tcshrc) and/or the system-wide /etc/csh.cshrc: setenv GEM_HOME "$GEM_HOME" EOF rm -f $PREFIX.csh elif test -e $PREFIX.sh then cat <<-EOF >&2 Your shell seems to be a Bourne shell derivative. Be sure to add the following lines to your ~/.profile and/or the system-wide /etc/profile: GEM_HOME="$GEM_HOME" export GEM_HOME EOF rm -f $PREFIX.sh else cat <<-EOF >&2 Cannot determine your shell. Be sure to set the GEM_HOME environment variable in your shell''s init/config file to ''$GEM_HOME'' EOF fi
On Friday 21 April 2006 12:29, Guest wrote:> I''ve been doing most of my initial playing with rails on a windows > system - but wish to switch to a dedicated linux box for this. > > Are there any particular distro''s to avoid / recommend. I prefer debian > for my other stuff, but thought i''d ask before going ahead. :)Unless you have a specific reason for wanting the Linux kernel underneath your software, you could look at FreeBSD. The base system is stable, easy to use and easy to keep up-to-date, and the ports tree is huge and well maintained. I''ve never used lighttpd on it (I''m looking at that next), but have no trouble with Apache. Ashley
I moved from debian to ubuntu and I''m very happy Guest wrote:> Hi, > > I''ve been doing most of my initial playing with rails on a windows > system - but wish to switch to a dedicated linux box for this. > > Are there any particular distro''s to avoid / recommend. I prefer debian > for my other stuff, but thought i''d ask before going ahead. :) > > Cheers-- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Will, I tried to get Apache working previously with Debian and performance was horrible. This box was also serving PHP stuff. I implemented Lighttpd and it works well, but I have some plesk driven boxes that I would like to get an Apache solution going. So you would recommend giving it another try? Michael
I know that some people are going to cringe at the thought of this, but my company''s production server is hosted with rackspace, which uses RHEL. Everything was pretty easy setting up except for the mysql gem was giving me segfaults, which was rackspace''s issue of not updating all the packages that they should have (I blogged about it at http://www.migrob.com). Overall we have been very pleased with the performance that we have been getting. When we write our rails applications we develop them locally, and run an svn server on Kubuntu''s Dapper Drake RC 6 for the dev boxes and Kubuntu Breezy Badger for the svn server. Both have proven rock solid for us. my $0.02 Rob On 4/21/06, Michael Trier <mtrier@gmail.com> wrote:> > Will, I tried to get Apache working previously with Debian and > performance was horrible. This box was also serving PHP stuff. I > implemented Lighttpd and it works well, but I have some plesk driven > boxes that I would like to get an Apache solution going. So you would > recommend giving it another try? > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- c++: the power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade http://www.migrob.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060421/f04faa33/attachment.html
I''ve been contemplating a move from Debian Sarge stable to either Debian Unstable, Gentoo or FreeBSD for my workstations. I am thinking of doing this in anticipation of ruby-1.8.4 being required for rails development. (not yet but may be at 1.2?) I don''t think Sarge will be upgraded to it any time soon, if at all. Gentoo seems great but the initial build can be a pain. The only question I have about FreeBSD is whether it plays well on laptops and if so which ones. I did a bit of googling on the subject and I don''t see any newer laptops on the list. I''d like to go with coreduo with 667MHz RAM. Ofcourse an obvious option is the Macbook Pro. I was a bit surprised to see that most good brand name coreduo laptops with similar specs of a Macbook Pro are atleast as expensive. I am very familiar with and addicted linux/emacs. apt-get(on Debian) and all things Linux. So this can be painful transition both on my pocket book and my psyche :) -bakki On 4/21/06, Ashley Moran <work@ashleymoran.me.uk> wrote:> On Friday 21 April 2006 12:29, Guest wrote: > > I''ve been doing most of my initial playing with rails on a windows > > system - but wish to switch to a dedicated linux box for this. > > > > Are there any particular distro''s to avoid / recommend. I prefer debian > > for my other stuff, but thought i''d ask before going ahead. :) > > Unless you have a specific reason for wanting the Linux kernel underneath your > software, you could look at FreeBSD. The base system is stable, easy to use > and easy to keep up-to-date, and the ports tree is huge and well maintained. > I''ve never used lighttpd on it (I''m looking at that next), but have no > trouble with Apache. > > Ashley > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Hi, I''ve been doing development using Rails 1.0, 1.1.x, and Edge on Ubuntu Dapper Drake. I did a dist-upgrade from Breezy Badger because the isos weren''t released yet. Dapper now has a package for lighttpd (I''ve installed it but haven''t used it yet). This is on a Dell Inspiron 5150 and the only special thing I needed was the windows driver for ndiswrapper to get the wi-fi working. Everything else has worked, in a word, like a charm. In my experience with number of distros, for a personal laptop, Dapper comes as close to using a mac as I''ve gotten. Brian -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Ruby 1.8.4 is extremely easy to compile and manage the install especially when using debian based systems and checkinstall http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ Rob On 4/21/06, Bakki Kudva <bakki.kudva@gmail.com> wrote:> > I''ve been contemplating a move from Debian Sarge stable to either > Debian Unstable, Gentoo or FreeBSD for my workstations. I am thinking > of doing this in anticipation of ruby-1.8.4 being required for rails > development. (not yet but may be at 1.2?) I don''t think Sarge will be > upgraded to it any time soon, if at all. Gentoo seems great but the > initial build can be a pain. > > The only question I have about FreeBSD is whether it plays well on > laptops and if so which ones. I did a bit of googling on the subject > and I don''t see any newer laptops on the list. I''d like to go with > coreduo with 667MHz RAM. Ofcourse an obvious option is the Macbook > Pro. I was a bit surprised to see that most good brand name coreduo > laptops with similar specs of a Macbook Pro are atleast as expensive. > I am very familiar with and addicted linux/emacs. apt-get(on Debian) > and all things Linux. So this can be painful transition both on my > pocket book and my psyche :) > > -bakki > > On 4/21/06, Ashley Moran <work@ashleymoran.me.uk> wrote: > > On Friday 21 April 2006 12:29, Guest wrote: > > > I''ve been doing most of my initial playing with rails on a windows > > > system - but wish to switch to a dedicated linux box for this. > > > > > > Are there any particular distro''s to avoid / recommend. I prefer > debian > > > for my other stuff, but thought i''d ask before going ahead. :) > > > > Unless you have a specific reason for wanting the Linux kernel > underneath your > > software, you could look at FreeBSD. The base system is stable, easy to > use > > and easy to keep up-to-date, and the ports tree is huge and well > maintained. > > I''ve never used lighttpd on it (I''m looking at that next), but have no > > trouble with Apache. > > > > Ashley > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- c++: the power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade http://www.migrob.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060421/627a5c8a/attachment.html
On Apr 21, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Bakki Kudva wrote:> O fcourse an obvious option is the Macbook > Pro. I was a bit surprised to see that most good brand name coreduo > laptops with similar specs of a Macbook Pro are atleast as expensive. > I am very familiar with and addicted linux/emacs.OS X appears to ship with emacs built in: GNU Emacs 21.2.1 Copyright (C) 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GNU Emacs comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. You may redistribute copies of Emacs under the terms of the GNU General Public License. For more information about these matters, see the file named COPYING. And, there''s a system called DarwinPorts that is quite nice. And, with BootCamp, if you don''t like OS X, you can keep your Mac and install Linux. -- -- Tom Mornini
Rob, I''ve been wondering about this. I had installed checkinstall-1.5.3-3 on my Sarge box which depends on Installwatch 0.6.3. The thing that scared me and stopped me from compiling Ruby-1.8.4 was this bit in the readme file ... "The Debian support in CheckInstall is still new, so handle it with care. It has been reported to work OK in some Debian systems and it certainly works OK in my Slackware development system". I didn''t want a broken Ruby. The current version of checkinstall is 1.6.0. The site doesn''t say anything about whether it still works with Installwatch0.6.3. Would you please tell me what versions you''ve been using (I am assuming that you have done this on Sarge). Thanks, bakki On 4/21/06, Rob Merrell <robholio@gmail.com> wrote:> Ruby 1.8.4 is extremely easy to compile and manage the install especially > when using debian based systems and checkinstall > http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ > > Rob > > > On 4/21/06, Bakki Kudva <bakki.kudva@gmail.com> wrote: > > I''ve been contemplating a move from Debian Sarge stable to either > > Debian Unstable, Gentoo or FreeBSD for my workstations. I am thinking > > of doing this in anticipation of ruby-1.8.4 being required for rails > > development. (not yet but may be at 1.2?) I don''t think Sarge will be > > upgraded to it any time soon, if at all. Gentoo seems great but the > > initial build can be a pain. > > > > The only question I have about FreeBSD is whether it plays well on > > laptops and if so which ones. I did a bit of googling on the subject > > and I don''t see any newer laptops on the list. I''d like to go with > > coreduo with 667MHz RAM. Ofcourse an obvious option is the Macbook > > Pro. I was a bit surprised to see that most good brand name coreduo > > laptops with similar specs of a Macbook Pro are atleast as expensive. > > I am very familiar with and addicted linux/emacs. apt-get(on Debian) > > and all things Linux. So this can be painful transition both on my > > pocket book and my psyche :) > > > > -bakki > > > > On 4/21/06, Ashley Moran < work@ashleymoran.me.uk> wrote: > > > On Friday 21 April 2006 12:29, Guest wrote: > > > > I''ve been doing most of my initial playing with rails on a windows > > > > system - but wish to switch to a dedicated linux box for this. > > > > > > > > Are there any particular distro''s to avoid / recommend. I prefer > debian > > > > for my other stuff, but thought i''d ask before going ahead. :) > > > > > > Unless you have a specific reason for wanting the Linux kernel > underneath your > > > software, you could look at FreeBSD. The base system is stable, easy to > use > > > and easy to keep up-to-date, and the ports tree is huge and well > maintained. > > > I''ve never used lighttpd on it (I''m looking at that next), but have no > > > trouble with Apache. > > > > > > Ashley > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails mailing list > > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > -- > c++: the power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade > http://www.migrob.com > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >
Tom, It is certainly tempting but for the hefty price tag of the Mac. While not identically equipped, there are coreduo laptops like the HPdv8233cl at http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?catg=535&item=334525&prDeTab=2&pCatg=5057#A which has the 1.66GHz coreduo but has 1GB 6678MHz RAM, two 100GB hard drives (!!) which will let me have dual boot with XP on HD1 and Linux or FreeBSD or whatever on HD2. It also has a gorgeous brightview 17" 1440x900 display, 6-in-1 card reader, ethernet + ABG wireless etc...Lot of machine for about $1000 less than Macbook Pro. Weighs a couple pounds more than the MacBookPro at 8.1 lbs. Every time I see the Mac I do get tempted (I used to be a Mac developer since 1984 till they almost went under) and all nostalgic BUT once I get past all the eye candy I feel it is just as useful a machine as any similar PC laptop with FreeBSD or LInux no more no less. -bakki On 4/21/06, Tom Mornini <tmornini@infomania.com> wrote:> On Apr 21, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Bakki Kudva wrote: > > > O fcourse an obvious option is the Macbook > > Pro. I was a bit surprised to see that most good brand name coreduo > > laptops with similar specs of a Macbook Pro are atleast as expensive. > > I am very familiar with and addicted linux/emacs. > > OS X appears to ship with emacs built in: > > GNU Emacs 21.2.1 > Copyright (C) 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GNU Emacs comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. > You may redistribute copies of Emacs > under the terms of the GNU General Public License. > For more information about these matters, see the file named COPYING. > > And, there''s a system called DarwinPorts that is quite nice. > > And, with BootCamp, if you don''t like OS X, you can keep your Mac > and install Linux. > > -- > -- Tom Mornini > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
> Every time I see the Mac I do get tempted (I used to be a Mac > developer since 1984 till they almost went under) and all nostalgic > BUT once I get past all the eye candy I feel it is just as useful a > machine as any similar PC laptop with FreeBSD or LInux no more no > less. > > -bExcept that a MacBook will run MacOS and a similar PC laptop won''t :-) Also, the fact that MacBook Pros stand out between other laptops because of their Aluminum look is good for your company''s image. Add that to a Keynote presentation in a demo (just after they''ve seen 10 blant PowerPoint standard template presentations) and it can really give you the edge you need to get the order. Best regards Peter De Berdt
Peter, I agree that Apple hires the best industrial designers out there and their computers have always stood out and look great. I am still pondering whether the MacbookPro is $1,000 more great :) -bakki On 4/21/06, Peter De Berdt <peter.de.berdt@pandora.be> wrote:> > Every time I see the Mac I do get tempted (I used to be a Mac > > developer since 1984 till they almost went under) and all nostalgic > > BUT once I get past all the eye candy I feel it is just as useful a > > machine as any similar PC laptop with FreeBSD or LInux no more no > > less. > > > > -b > > Except that a MacBook will run MacOS and a similar PC laptop > won''t :-) Also, the fact that MacBook Pros stand out between other > laptops because of their Aluminum look is good for your company''s > image. Add that to a Keynote presentation in a demo (just after > they''ve seen 10 blant PowerPoint standard template presentations) and > it can really give you the edge you need to get the order. > > Best regards > > Peter De Berdt > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Bakki, I did it with Kubuntu Breezy Badger a few months ago, and have installed Dapper Drake since then which has a package for ruby 1.8.4. So unfortunately I can''t look up the version of checkinstall that I was using. Sorry. So whatever version happens to be in the ubuntu repo''s worked perfectly for me. Rob On 4/21/06, Bakki Kudva <bakki.kudva@gmail.com> wrote:> > Rob, > > I''ve been wondering about this. I had installed checkinstall-1.5.3-3 > on my Sarge box which depends on Installwatch 0.6.3. The thing that > scared me and stopped me from compiling Ruby-1.8.4 was this bit in the > readme file ... > "The Debian support in CheckInstall is still new, so handle it with > care. It has been reported to work OK in some Debian systems and it > certainly works OK in my Slackware development system". I didn''t want > a broken Ruby. > > The current version of checkinstall is 1.6.0. The site doesn''t say > anything about whether it still works with Installwatch0.6.3. > > Would you please tell me what versions you''ve been using (I am > assuming that you have done this on Sarge). > > Thanks, > > bakki > > On 4/21/06, Rob Merrell <robholio@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ruby 1.8.4 is extremely easy to compile and manage the install > especially > > when using debian based systems and checkinstall > > http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ > > > > Rob > > > > > > On 4/21/06, Bakki Kudva <bakki.kudva@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I''ve been contemplating a move from Debian Sarge stable to either > > > Debian Unstable, Gentoo or FreeBSD for my workstations. I am thinking > > > of doing this in anticipation of ruby-1.8.4 being required for rails > > > development. (not yet but may be at 1.2?) I don''t think Sarge will be > > > upgraded to it any time soon, if at all. Gentoo seems great but the > > > initial build can be a pain. > > > > > > The only question I have about FreeBSD is whether it plays well on > > > laptops and if so which ones. I did a bit of googling on the subject > > > and I don''t see any newer laptops on the list. I''d like to go with > > > coreduo with 667MHz RAM. Ofcourse an obvious option is the Macbook > > > Pro. I was a bit surprised to see that most good brand name coreduo > > > laptops with similar specs of a Macbook Pro are atleast as expensive. > > > I am very familiar with and addicted linux/emacs. apt-get(on Debian) > > > and all things Linux. So this can be painful transition both on my > > > pocket book and my psyche :) > > > > > > -bakki > > > > > > On 4/21/06, Ashley Moran < work@ashleymoran.me.uk> wrote: > > > > On Friday 21 April 2006 12:29, Guest wrote: > > > > > I''ve been doing most of my initial playing with rails on a windows > > > > > system - but wish to switch to a dedicated linux box for this. > > > > > > > > > > Are there any particular distro''s to avoid / recommend. I prefer > > debian > > > > > for my other stuff, but thought i''d ask before going ahead. :) > > > > > > > > Unless you have a specific reason for wanting the Linux kernel > > underneath your > > > > software, you could look at FreeBSD. The base system is stable, > easy to > > use > > > > and easy to keep up-to-date, and the ports tree is huge and well > > maintained. > > > > I''ve never used lighttpd on it (I''m looking at that next), but have > no > > > > trouble with Apache. > > > > > > > > Ashley > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Rails mailing list > > > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails mailing list > > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > c++: the power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade > > http://www.migrob.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- c++: the power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade http://www.migrob.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060421/4c7189fe/attachment-0001.html
Gregory Seidman wrote:> On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 12:56:02PM +0100, will wrote: > } Edward Frederick wrote: > } >Debian Sarge works great. > } > } I will second that, apart from getting lighttpd working which is a > } complete pain in the arse. Such a pain in the arse that I used Apache > } and mod_fcgid instead > } (http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/Debian+mod_fastcgi+Notes). > } > } It has been fine so far. Where I had previously had stability issues > } with mod_fcgi, mod_fcgid is working great. > > I never tried anything other than Apache2 + mod_fcgid, and I had little > trouble setting it up. I use a Debian Testing/Unstable mix (though I''d use > sarge for deployment). > > Incidentally, if you want rubygems (you probably do) and you want to keep > them in /usr/local/lib instead of /usr/lib (following Debian policy), > you''ll need to do some work. I''m including a shell script that will let you > install gems in /usr/local (or wherever). There is also some attempt to > wrap gems in Debian packages so that they are managed by apt/dpkg, but I > don''t know how far that effort has gotten.Check out this package http://www.orcaware.com/packages/ubuntu/breezy/libgems-ruby1.8/ These were built on Ubuntu Breezy, but they should work on Debian. It installs all the gems into /var/lib/gems and if you --purge it, it''ll remove the directory and all the gems. Regards, Blair -- Blair Zajac, Ph.D. <blair@orcaware.com> Subversion training, consulting and support http://www.orcaware.com/svn/
> On Apr 21, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Bakki Kudva wrote: > >> O fcourse an obvious option is the Macbook Pro. I was a bit surprised >> to see that most good brand name coreduo laptops with similar >> specs of >> a Macbook Pro are atleast as expensive.On Apr 21, 2006, at 12:20 PM, Bakki Kudva wrote:> It is certainly tempting but for the hefty price tag of the Mac.That''s an abrupt change of opinion in under 4 hours. :-) -- -- Tom Mornini
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On 21 Apr 2006, at 22:44, Bakki Kudva wrote:> I agree that Apple hires the best industrial designers out there and > their computers have always stood out and look great. I am still > pondering whether the MacbookPro is $1,000 more great :)Although I must say I''m pretty biased about opinion towards Apple, I have been using about every operating system out there and found MacOS to strike the delicate balance between a graphical user interface and the raw unix power. I''ve had my fair share of Mac and PC laptops (HP, Dell, Sony) and the only one that still runs very smoothly after four years without any costs, is my PowerBook 867, I still use it every day for more than 11 hours. Also, I started out with MacOS 10.2 and upgrading to a new version of the MacOS has made my PowerBook faster each time, this can''t be said from Windows or Linux. To put it in one sentence, I don''t mind the $1000 extra if it allows me to save more than that by using my Mac for a few years longer. Best regards Peter De Berdt
On Friday 21 April 2006 16:51, Bakki Kudva wrote:> The only question I have about FreeBSD is whether it plays well on > laptops and if so which ones. I did a bit of googling on the subject > and I don''t see any newer laptops on the list. I''d like to go with > coreduo with 667MHz RAM. Ofcourse an obvious option is the Macbook > Pro. I was a bit surprised to see that most good brand name coreduo > laptops with similar specs of a Macbook Pro are atleast as expensive. > I am very familiar with and addicted linux/emacs. apt-get(on Debian) > and all things Linux. So this can be painful transition both on my > pocket book and my psycheI use FreeBSD on all our servers because it''s the best free OS for amd64, providing you have compatible hardware. I also use it on my desktop, but that''s only because they won''t buy me a Mac :) I''ve never used apt-get, but FreeBSD ports is great and DarwinPorts is at least as good. It doesn''t have as many ports, but everything you need for Rails is in there. As much as I like FreeBSD and KDE, it can still take a lot of work to get running on the desktop (that said, I''ve never used a Linux desktop to compare). PCBSD may interest you ( http://www.pcbsd.org/ ) as the final release is due soon. Hopefully they won''t be long behind the 6.1 release. FreeBSD now has a binary Java package which means installing RadRails is a no-brainer. Overall though, if you want a laptop for Rails development I''d say if you are prepared to spend the money then definitely go with the MacBook Pro. OS X is absolutely rock solid, and you get to run TextMate :) Ashley
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2006-Apr-23 03:18 UTC
[Rails] Ruby, Rails & Linux - Which distro ??
Bakki Kudva wrote:> I''ve been contemplating a move from Debian Sarge stable to either > Debian Unstable, Gentoo or FreeBSD for my workstations. I am thinking > of doing this in anticipation of ruby-1.8.4 being required for rails > development. (not yet but may be at 1.2?) I don''t think Sarge will be > upgraded to it any time soon, if at all. Gentoo seems great but the > initial build can be a pain. >Gentoo "stable" is currently still at Rails 1.0, I think. Gentoo is pretty good about getting version bumps into the unstable/testing repository, if that matters to you. For example, Rails 1.1.2 was available in Portage a day or so after it escaped from DHH and company. If you''ve got a few machines, you can minimize the pain of Gentoo compilation with "distcc" and "ccache" and "buildpkg" features. It''s a tad tricky to set up, but you can even do the initial build with "distcc" and "ccache". For that matter, you don''t lose a heck of a lot by using "O2" for optimization and compiling everything for "i686", which will run on a P2 or better. I''ve got three different types of machines, and I have had good luck with the i686 trick. Just out of curiosity, since you mentioned Debian and Gentoo, what about the "other community distro," Fedora? :)> The only question I have about FreeBSD is whether it plays well on > laptops and if so which ones. I did a bit of googling on the subject > and I don''t see any newer laptops on the list. I''d like to go with > coreduo with 667MHz RAM. Ofcourse an obvious option is the Macbook > Pro. I was a bit surprised to see that most good brand name coreduo > laptops with similar specs of a Macbook Pro are atleast as expensive. > I am very familiar with and addicted linux/emacs. apt-get(on Debian) > and all things Linux. So this can be painful transition both on my > pocket book and my psyche :) >Hey, if you *want* to spend money on a laptop, get a nice 64-bit Turion with a wide-screen. :)> -bakki > > On 4/21/06, Ashley Moran <work@ashleymoran.me.uk> wrote: > >> On Friday 21 April 2006 12:29, Guest wrote: >> >>> I''ve been doing most of my initial playing with rails on a windows >>> system - but wish to switch to a dedicated linux box for this. >>> >>> Are there any particular distro''s to avoid / recommend. I prefer debian >>> for my other stuff, but thought i''d ask before going ahead. :) >>> >> Unless you have a specific reason for wanting the Linux kernel underneath your >> software, you could look at FreeBSD. The base system is stable, easy to use >> and easy to keep up-to-date, and the ports tree is huge and well maintained. >> I''ve never used lighttpd on it (I''m looking at that next), but have no >> trouble with Apache. >> >> Ashley >> _______________________________________________ >> Rails mailing list >> Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org >> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > >-- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky http://linuxcapacityplanning.com
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2006-Apr-23 03:21 UTC
[Rails] Ruby, Rails & Linux - Which distro ??
Gentoo, of course :). Guest wrote:> Hi, > > I''ve been doing most of my initial playing with rails on a windows > system - but wish to switch to a dedicated linux box for this. > > Are there any particular distro''s to avoid / recommend. I prefer debian > for my other stuff, but thought i''d ask before going ahead. :) > > Cheers > >-- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky http://linuxcapacityplanning.com
I ran Gentoo for a number of months, and switched because it became a part time job to administer my machine. I would say go with a Debian based distro. Rob On 4/22/06, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:> > Gentoo, of course :). > > Guest wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I''ve been doing most of my initial playing with rails on a windows > > system - but wish to switch to a dedicated linux box for this. > > > > Are there any particular distro''s to avoid / recommend. I prefer debian > > for my other stuff, but thought i''d ask before going ahead. :) > > > > Cheers > > > > > > -- > M. Edward (Ed) Borasky > > http://linuxcapacityplanning.com > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- c++: the power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade http://www.migrob.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060423/fcc46627/attachment.html
Hi, As I''m finishing a new web I''m testing the deployment using Debian Sarge (I used windows for development) and found it easy (even to setup lighttpd). I followed the instructions written here: http://brainspl.at/rails_stack.html Hope it helps. Cheers.
Jon Gretar Borgthorsson
2006-Apr-23 15:44 UTC
[Rails] Ruby, Rails & Linux - Which distro ??
You should really compare again. You will see that the MacBook Pro has actually similar price as laptops with similar hardware. A quick glance at dell.com makes the price for a similar dell to be around $1800 and you still have left to add external stuff to have the built in features of a MBP. Apple is more expensive yes. But it''s only like $150 more expensive at most. On 4/21/06, Bakki Kudva <bakki.kudva@gmail.com> wrote:> Peter, > > I agree that Apple hires the best industrial designers out there and > their computers have always stood out and look great. I am still > pondering whether the MacbookPro is $1,000 more great :) > > -bakki > > On 4/21/06, Peter De Berdt <peter.de.berdt@pandora.be> wrote: > > > Every time I see the Mac I do get tempted (I used to be a Mac > > > developer since 1984 till they almost went under) and all nostalgic > > > BUT once I get past all the eye candy I feel it is just as useful a > > > machine as any similar PC laptop with FreeBSD or LInux no more no > > > less. > > > > > > -b > > > > Except that a MacBook will run MacOS and a similar PC laptop > > won''t :-) Also, the fact that MacBook Pros stand out between other > > laptops because of their Aluminum look is good for your company''s > > image. Add that to a Keynote presentation in a demo (just after > > they''ve seen 10 blant PowerPoint standard template presentations) and > > it can really give you the edge you need to get the order. > > > > Best regards > > > > Peter De Berdt > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- -------------- Jon Gretar Borgthorsson http://www.jongretar.net/
Michael Trier wrote:> Will, I tried to get Apache working previously with Debian and > performance was horrible. This box was also serving PHP stuff. I > implemented Lighttpd and it works well, but I have some plesk driven > boxes that I would like to get an Apache solution going. So you would > recommend giving it another try?I tried apache + mod_fcgi about a year ago and the stability was lousy so I switched to lighttpd. Now I am using apache + mod_fcgid and for what I am using it for it is fine. It has been completely stable and there have been no performance issues. None of my sites are particularly heavily used however so YMMV. If you have lighttpd working then you may aswell stick with it unless you need a feature that only apache supports or does better. Will.
> time job to administer my machine. I would say go with a Debian based > distro.unless you get a macbook, or any new hardware really. then i''d want gentoo - spyderous''s overlay has some trunk ebuilds for xorg and with them you can get XGL running on the MacBook.. just setting it up for a friend. the 1.83g Duo compiled glibc in 25.5 minutes.. for comparison, my (both 2.0g amd64) notebook/shuttle connected via distcc took 22 minutes. so its pretty fast.. rails? installed in about 2 seconds -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.