Heya all, I''m working on testing ZFS with NFS, and I could use some guidance - read speeds are a bit less than I expected. Over a gig-e line, we''re seeing ~30 MB/s reads on average - doesn''t seem to matter if we''re doing large numbers of small files or small numbers of large files, the speed seems to top out there. We''ve disabled pre-fetching, which may be having some affect on read speads, but proved necessary due to severe performance issues on database reads with it enabled. (Reading from the DB with pre-fetching enabled was taking 4-5 times as long than with it disabled.) Write speed seems to be fine. Testing is showing ~95 MB/s, which seems pretty decent considering there''s been no real network tuning done. The NFS server we''re testing is a Sun x4500, configured with a storage pool consisting of 20x 2-disk mirrors, using separate SSD for logging. It''s running the latest version of Nexenta Core. (We''ve also got a second x4500 in with a raidZ2 config, running OpenSolaris proper, showing the same issues with reads.) We''re using NFS v4 via TCP, serving various Linux clients (the majority are CentOS 5.3). Connectivity is presently provided by a single gigabit ethernet link; entirely conventional configuration (no jumbo frames/etc). Our workload is pretty read heavy; we''re serving both website assets and databases via NFS. The majority of files being served are small (< 1MB). The databases are MySQL/InnoDB, with the data in separate zfs filesystems with a record size of 16k. The website assets/etc. are in zfs filesystems with the default record size. On the database server side of things, we''ve disabled InnoDB''s double write buffer. I''m wondering if there''s any other tuning that''d be a good idea for ZFS in this situation, or if there''s some NFS tuning that should be done when dealing specifically with ZFS. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Gogick senior systems administrator | workhabit,inc. // email: gary at workhabit.com | web: http://www.workhabit.com // office: 866-workhabit | fax: 919-552-9690 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20091020/2953ded3/attachment.html>
cross-posting to nfs-discuss On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Gary Gogick wrote:> Heya all, > > I''m working on testing ZFS with NFS, and I could use some guidance - > read speeds are a bit less than I expected. > > Over a gig-e line, we''re seeing ~30 MB/s reads on average - doesn''t > seem to matter if we''re doing large numbers of small files or small > numbers of large files, the speed seems to top out there. We''ve > disabled pre-fetching, which may be having some affect on read > speads, but proved necessary due to severe performance issues on > database reads with it enabled. (Reading from the DB with pre- > fetching enabled was taking 4-5 times as long than with it disabled.)What is the performance when reading locally (eliminate NFS from the equation)? -- richard> > Write speed seems to be fine. Testing is showing ~95 MB/s, which > seems pretty decent considering there''s been no real network tuning > done. > > The NFS server we''re testing is a Sun x4500, configured with a > storage pool consisting of 20x 2-disk mirrors, using separate SSD > for logging. It''s running the latest version of Nexenta Core. > (We''ve also got a second x4500 in with a raidZ2 config, running > OpenSolaris proper, showing the same issues with reads.) > > We''re using NFS v4 via TCP, serving various Linux clients (the > majority are CentOS 5.3). Connectivity is presently provided by a > single gigabit ethernet link; entirely conventional configuration > (no jumbo frames/etc). > > Our workload is pretty read heavy; we''re serving both website assets > and databases via NFS. The majority of files being served are small > (< 1MB). The databases are MySQL/InnoDB, with the data in separate > zfs filesystems with a record size of 16k. The website assets/etc. > are in zfs filesystems with the default record size. On the > database server side of things, we''ve disabled InnoDB''s double write > buffer. > > I''m wondering if there''s any other tuning that''d be a good idea for > ZFS in this situation, or if there''s some NFS tuning that should be > done when dealing specifically with ZFS. Any advice would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Gary Gogick > senior systems administrator | workhabit,inc. > > // email: gary at workhabit.com | web: http://www.workhabit.com > // office: 866-workhabit | fax: 919-552-9690 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Gary Where you measuring the Linux NFS write performance? It''s well know that Linux can use NFS in a very "unsafe" mode and report the write complete when it is not all the way to safe storage. This is often reported as Solaris has slow NFS write performance. This link does not mention NFS v4 but you might want to check. http://nfs.sourceforge.net/ What''s the write performance like between the two OpenSolaris systems? Richard Elling wrote: cross-posting to nfs-discuss On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Gary Gogick wrote: Heya all, I''m working on testing ZFS with NFS, and I could use some guidance - read speeds are a bit less than I expected. Over a gig-e line, we''re seeing ~30 MB/s reads on average - doesn''t seem to matter if we''re doing large numbers of small files or small numbers of large files, the speed seems to top out there. We''ve disabled pre-fetching, which may be having some affect on read speads, but proved necessary due to severe performance issues on database reads with it enabled. (Reading from the DB with pre- fetching enabled was taking 4-5 times as long than with it disabled.) What is the performance when reading locally (eliminate NFS from the equation)? -- richard Write speed seems to be fine. Testing is showing ~95 MB/s, which seems pretty decent considering there''s been no real network tuning done. The NFS server we''re testing is a Sun x4500, configured with a storage pool consisting of 20x 2-disk mirrors, using separate SSD for logging. It''s running the latest version of Nexenta Core. (We''ve also got a second x4500 in with a raidZ2 config, running OpenSolaris proper, showing the same issues with reads.) We''re using NFS v4 via TCP, serving various Linux clients (the majority are CentOS 5.3). Connectivity is presently provided by a single gigabit ethernet link; entirely conventional configuration (no jumbo frames/etc). Our workload is pretty read heavy; we''re serving both website assets and databases via NFS. The majority of files being served are small (< 1MB). The databases are MySQL/InnoDB, with the data in separate zfs filesystems with a record size of 16k. The website assets/etc. are in zfs filesystems with the default record size. On the database server side of things, we''ve disabled InnoDB''s double write buffer. I''m wondering if there''s any other tuning that''d be a good idea for ZFS in this situation, or if there''s some NFS tuning that should be done when dealing specifically with ZFS. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Gogick senior systems administrator | workhabit,inc. // email: gary@workhabit.com | web: http://www.workhabit.com // office: 866-workhabit | fax: 919-552-9690 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss www.eagle.co.nz This email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If received in error please destroy and immediately notify us. _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
But this is concerning reads not writes. -Ross On Oct 20, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Trevor Pretty <trevor_pretty at eagle.co.nz> wrote:> Gary > > Where you measuring the Linux NFS write performance? It''s well know > that Linux can use NFS in a very "unsafe" mode and report the write > complete when it is not all the way to safe storage. This is often > reported as Solaris has slow NFS write performance. This link does > not mention NFS v4 but you might want to check. http://nfs.sourceforge.net/ > > What''s the write performance like between the two OpenSolaris systems? > > > Richard Elling wrote: >> >> cross-posting to nfs-discuss >> >> On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Gary Gogick wrote: >> >> >>> Heya all, >>> >>> I''m working on testing ZFS with NFS, and I could use some guidance - >>> read speeds are a bit less than I expected. >>> >>> Over a gig-e line, we''re seeing ~30 MB/s reads on average - doesn''t >>> seem to matter if we''re doing large numbers of small files or small >>> numbers of large files, the speed seems to top out there. We''ve >>> disabled pre-fetching, which may be having some affect on read >>> speads, but proved necessary due to severe performance issues on >>> database reads with it enabled. (Reading from the DB with pre- >>> fetching enabled was taking 4-5 times as long than with it >>> disabled.) >>> >> >> What is the performance when reading locally (eliminate NFS from the >> equation)? >> -- richard >> >> >>> Write speed seems to be fine. Testing is showing ~95 MB/s, which >>> seems pretty decent considering there''s been no real network tuning >>> done. >>> >>> The NFS server we''re testing is a Sun x4500, configured with a >>> storage pool consisting of 20x 2-disk mirrors, using separate SSD >>> for logging. It''s running the latest version of Nexenta Core. >>> (We''ve also got a second x4500 in with a raidZ2 config, running >>> OpenSolaris proper, showing the same issues with reads.) >>> >>> We''re using NFS v4 via TCP, serving various Linux clients (the >>> majority are CentOS 5.3). Connectivity is presently provided by a >>> single gigabit ethernet link; entirely conventional configuration >>> (no jumbo frames/etc). >>> >>> Our workload is pretty read heavy; we''re serving both website assets >>> and databases via NFS. The majority of files being served are small >>> (< 1MB). The databases are MySQL/InnoDB, with the data in separate >>> zfs filesystems with a record size of 16k. The website assets/etc. >>> are in zfs filesystems with the default record size. On the >>> database server side of things, we''ve disabled InnoDB''s double write >>> buffer. >>> >>> I''m wondering if there''s any other tuning that''d be a good idea for >>> ZFS in this situation, or if there''s some NFS tuning that should be >>> done when dealing specifically with ZFS. Any advice would be >>> greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Gary Gogick >>> senior systems administrator | workhabit,inc. >>> >>> // email: gary at workhabit.com | web: http://www.workhabit.com >>> // office: 866-workhabit | fax: 919-552-9690 >>> >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> zfs-discuss mailing list >>> zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org >>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> zfs-discuss mailing list >> zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >> > www.eagle.co.nz > This email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If > received in error please destroy and immediately notify us. > > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20091020/f64fdd0d/attachment.html>
No it concerns the difference between reads and writes. The write performance may be being over stated! Ross Walker wrote: But this is concerning reads not writes. -Ross On Oct 20, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Trevor Pretty <trevor_pretty@eagle.co.nz> wrote: Gary Where you measuring the Linux NFS write performance? It''s well know that Linux can use NFS in a very "unsafe" mode and report the write complete when it is not all the way to safe storage. This is often reported as Solaris has slow NFS write performance. This link does not mention NFS v4 but you might want to check. http://nfs.sourceforge.net/ What''s the write performance like between the two OpenSolaris systems? Richard Elling wrote: cross-posting to nfs-discuss On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Gary Gogick wrote: Heya all, I''m working on testing ZFS with NFS, and I could use some guidance - read speeds are a bit less than I expected. Over a gig-e line, we''re seeing ~30 MB/s reads on average - doesn''t seem to matter if we''re doing large numbers of small files or small numbers of large files, the speed seems to top out there. We''ve disabled pre-fetching, which may be having some affect on read speads, but proved necessary due to severe performance issues on database reads with it enabled. (Reading from the DB with pre- fetching enabled was taking 4-5 times as long than with it disabled.) What is the performance when reading locally (eliminate NFS from the equation)? -- richard Write speed seems to be fine. Testing is showing ~95 MB/s, which seems pretty decent considering there''s been no real network tuning done. The NFS server we''re testing is a Sun x4500, configured with a storage pool consisting of 20x 2-disk mirrors, using separate SSD for logging. It''s running the latest version of Nexenta Core. (We''ve also got a second x4500 in with a raidZ2 config, running OpenSolaris proper, showing the same issues with reads.) We''re using NFS v4 via TCP, serving various Linux clients (the majority are CentOS 5.3). Connectivity is presently provided by a single gigabit ethernet link; entirely conventional configuration (no jumbo frames/etc). Our workload is pretty read heavy; we''re serving both website assets and databases via NFS. The majority of files being served are small (< 1MB). The databases are MySQL/InnoDB, with the data in separate zfs filesystems with a record size of 16k. The website assets/etc. are in zfs filesystems with the default record size. On the database server side of things, we''ve disabled InnoDB''s double write buffer. I''m wondering if there''s any other tuning that''d be a good idea for ZFS in this situation, or if there''s some NFS tuning that should be done when dealing specifically with ZFS. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Gogick senior systems administrator | workhabit,inc. // email: gary@workhabit.com | web: http://www.workhabit.com // office: 866-workhabit | fax: 919-552-9690 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss www.eagle.co.nz This email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If received in error please destroy and immediately notify us. _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss www.eagle.co.nz This email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If received in error please destroy and immediately notify us. _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Gary Gogick <gary at workhabit.com> wrote:> We''re using NFS v4 via TCP, serving various Linux clients (the majority are > CentOS 5.3).? Connectivity is presently provided by a single gigabit > ethernet link; entirely conventional configuration (no jumbo frames/etc).Linux''s NFS v4 (especially the one in Centos 5.3, which is a little older) is not a complete implementation. It might be worth seeing if NFS v3 has better performance. -B -- Brandon High : bhigh at freaks.com If violence doesn''t solve your problem, you''re not using enough of it.
On Oct 20, 2009, at 5:28 PM, Trevor Pretty <trevor_pretty at eagle.co.nz> wrote:> > No it concerns the difference between reads and writes. > > The write performance may be being over stated! >The clients are Linux, the server is Solaris. True the mounts on the Linux clients were async, but so are typically the mounts on Solaris clients. The OP was measuring the page cache performance of the client more then the actual disk io. If the Linux client runs an app that does fsync() on the io on an async mount then the io will be synchronous. You are thinking of the Linux NFS server export option ''async'' which is unsafe. -Ross> > Ross Walker wrote: >> >> >> But this is concerning reads not writes. >> >> -Ross >> >> >> On Oct 20, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Trevor Pretty >> <trevor_pretty at eagle.co.nz> wrote: >> >>> Gary >>> >>> Where you measuring the Linux NFS write performance? It''s well >>> know that Linux can use NFS in a very "unsafe" mode and report the >>> write complete when it is not all the way to safe storage. This is >>> often reported as Solaris has slow NFS write performance. This >>> link does not mention NFS v4 but you might want to check. http://nfs.sourceforge.net/ >>> >>> What''s the write performance like between the two OpenSolaris >>> systems? >>> >>> >>> Richard Elling wrote: >>>> >>>> cross-posting to nfs-discuss >>>> >>>> On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Gary Gogick wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Heya all, >>>>> >>>>> I''m working on testing ZFS with NFS, and I could use some >>>>> guidance - >>>>> read speeds are a bit less than I expected. >>>>> >>>>> Over a gig-e line, we''re seeing ~30 MB/s reads on average - >>>>> doesn''t >>>>> seem to matter if we''re doing large numbers of small files or >>>>> small >>>>> numbers of large files, the speed seems to top out there. We''ve >>>>> disabled pre-fetching, which may be having some affect on read >>>>> speads, but proved necessary due to severe performance issues on >>>>> database reads with it enabled. (Reading from the DB with pre- >>>>> fetching enabled was taking 4-5 times as long than with it >>>>> disabled.) >>>>> >>>> >>>> What is the performance when reading locally (eliminate NFS from >>>> the >>>> equation)? >>>> -- richard >>>> >>>> >>>>> Write speed seems to be fine. Testing is showing ~95 MB/s, which >>>>> seems pretty decent considering there''s been no real network >>>>> tuning >>>>> done. >>>>> >>>>> The NFS server we''re testing is a Sun x4500, configured with a >>>>> storage pool consisting of 20x 2-disk mirrors, using separate SSD >>>>> for logging. It''s running the latest version of Nexenta Core. >>>>> (We''ve also got a second x4500 in with a raidZ2 config, running >>>>> OpenSolaris proper, showing the same issues with reads.) >>>>> >>>>> We''re using NFS v4 via TCP, serving various Linux clients (the >>>>> majority are CentOS 5.3). Connectivity is presently provided >>>>> by a >>>>> single gigabit ethernet link; entirely conventional configuration >>>>> (no jumbo frames/etc). >>>>> >>>>> Our workload is pretty read heavy; we''re serving both website >>>>> assets >>>>> and databases via NFS. The majority of files being served are >>>>> small >>>>> (< 1MB). The databases are MySQL/InnoDB, with the data in >>>>> separate >>>>> zfs filesystems with a record size of 16k. The website assets/ >>>>> etc. >>>>> are in zfs filesystems with the default record size. On the >>>>> database server side of things, we''ve disabled InnoDB''s double >>>>> write >>>>> buffer. >>>>> >>>>> I''m wondering if there''s any other tuning that''d be a good idea >>>>> for >>>>> ZFS in this situation, or if there''s some NFS tuning that should >>>>> be >>>>> done when dealing specifically with ZFS. Any advice would be >>>>> greatly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Gary Gogick >>>>> senior systems administrator | workhabit,inc. >>>>> >>>>> // email: gary at workhabit.com | web: http://www.workhabit.com >>>>> // office: 866-workhabit | fax: 919-552-9690 >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> zfs-discuss mailing list >>>>> zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org >>>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> zfs-discuss mailing list >>>> zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org >>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >>>> >>> www.eagle.co.nz >>> This email is confidential and may be legally privileged. 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Trevor/all, We''ve been timing the copying of actual data (1GB of assorted files, generally < 1MB with numerous larger files thrown in) in an attempt to simulate real world use. We''ve been copying different sets of data around to try and avoid anything being cached anywhere. I don''t recall the specific numbers, but local reading/writing on the x4500 was definitely well over what can be theoretically pushed through a gig-e line; so I''m pretty convinced the problem is either with the ZFS+NFS combo or NFS, rather than with ZFS alone. I''ll do some OpenSolaris -> OpenSolaris testing tonight and see what happens. Thanks for the replies, appreciate the help! On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Trevor Pretty <trevor_pretty at eagle.co.nz>wrote:> Gary > > Where you measuring the Linux NFS write performance? It''s well know that > Linux can use NFS in a very "unsafe" mode and report the write complete when > it is not all the way to safe storage. This is often reported as Solaris has > slow NFS write performance. This link does not mention NFS v4 but you might > want to check. http://nfs.sourceforge.net/ > > What''s the write performance like between the two OpenSolaris systems? > > > Richard Elling wrote: > > cross-posting to nfs-discuss > > On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Gary Gogick wrote: > > > > Heya all, > > I''m working on testing ZFS with NFS, and I could use some guidance - > read speeds are a bit less than I expected. > > Over a gig-e line, we''re seeing ~30 MB/s reads on average - doesn''t > seem to matter if we''re doing large numbers of small files or small > numbers of large files, the speed seems to top out there. We''ve > disabled pre-fetching, which may be having some affect on read > speads, but proved necessary due to severe performance issues on > database reads with it enabled. (Reading from the DB with pre- > fetching enabled was taking 4-5 times as long than with it disabled.) > > > What is the performance when reading locally (eliminate NFS from the > equation)? > -- richard > > > > Write speed seems to be fine. Testing is showing ~95 MB/s, which > seems pretty decent considering there''s been no real network tuning > done. > > The NFS server we''re testing is a Sun x4500, configured with a > storage pool consisting of 20x 2-disk mirrors, using separate SSD > for logging. It''s running the latest version of Nexenta Core. > (We''ve also got a second x4500 in with a raidZ2 config, running > OpenSolaris proper, showing the same issues with reads.) > > We''re using NFS v4 via TCP, serving various Linux clients (the > majority are CentOS 5.3). Connectivity is presently provided by a > single gigabit ethernet link; entirely conventional configuration > (no jumbo frames/etc). > > Our workload is pretty read heavy; we''re serving both website assets > and databases via NFS. The majority of files being served are small > (< 1MB). The databases are MySQL/InnoDB, with the data in separate > zfs filesystems with a record size of 16k. The website assets/etc. > are in zfs filesystems with the default record size. On the > database server side of things, we''ve disabled InnoDB''s double write > buffer. > > I''m wondering if there''s any other tuning that''d be a good idea for > ZFS in this situation, or if there''s some NFS tuning that should be > done when dealing specifically with ZFS. Any advice would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Gary Gogick > senior systems administrator | workhabit,inc. > > // email: gary at workhabit.com | web: http://www.workhabit.com > // office: 866-workhabit | fax: 919-552-9690 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing listzfs-discuss at opensolaris.orghttp://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing listzfs-discuss at opensolaris.orghttp://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss > > * > > * > > www.eagle.co.nz > > This email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If received in > error please destroy and immediately notify us. >-- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Gogick senior systems administrator | workhabit,inc. // email: gary at workhabit.com | web: http://www.workhabit.com // office: 866-workhabit | fax: 919-552-9690 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20091020/94822c9b/attachment.html>