Hi, anyone here is using HyperVM? As you probabily know, the owner of LxLabs has killed hitself (i want to make my condolences to his family): http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Bangalore/Techie-hangs-himself-in-HSR-Layout-/articleshow/4633101.cms HyperVM has some big vulnerabilities and we don''t know if they will be fixed. We don''t know if the licensing server will be kept up, so it''s possible that when it expires all our server go down. http://forum.lxlabs.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=67554 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/08/webhost_attack/ Now the only solution is stop hypervm service everywhere. Anyone having my same trouble? Any idea on what we can do? Other control panels? Doex XenServer integrate a web control panel? Thankyou in advance guys. We''ve lost an important programmer, but our businnes must go on. Sorry for my post. Giorgio _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
what do you say? has the owner of hypervm killed itself? and hope you no xen server only run on 64 bit procesor and all peoples in the world not have a 64 bit so hope hypervm conntinius to exist -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] För Admin GG Skickat: den 9 juni 2009 22:10 Till: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Ämne: [Xen-users] HyperVM Hi, anyone here is using HyperVM? As you probabily know, the owner of LxLabs has killed hitself (i want to make my condolences to his family): http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Bangalore/Techie-hangs-himself-in-HSR -Layout-/articleshow/4633101.cms HyperVM has some big vulnerabilities and we don''t know if they will be fixed. We don''t know if the licensing server will be kept up, so it''s possible that when it expires all our server go down. http://forum.lxlabs.com/index.php?t=msg <http://forum.lxlabs.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=67554> &goto=67554 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/08/webhost_attack/ Now the only solution is stop hypervm service everywhere. Anyone having my same trouble? Any idea on what we can do? Other control panels? Doex XenServer integrate a web control panel? Thankyou in advance guys. We''ve lost an important programmer, but our businnes must go on. Sorry for my post. Giorgio _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Admin GG <admin@gg-lab.net> wrote:> Hi, > > anyone here is using HyperVM? > > As you probabily know, the owner of LxLabs has killed hitself (i want to > make my condolences to his family): > > > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Bangalore/Techie-hangs-himself-in-HSR-Layout-/articleshow/4633101.cms > > HyperVM has some big vulnerabilities and we don''t know if they will be > fixed. We don''t know if the licensing server will be kept up, so it''s > possible that when it expires all our server go down. > > http://forum.lxlabs.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=67554 > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/08/webhost_attack/ > > Now the only solution is stop hypervm service everywhere. > > Anyone having my same trouble? Any idea on what we can do? Other control > panels? > > Doex XenServer integrate a web control panel? > > Thankyou in advance guys. > > We''ve lost an important programmer, but our businnes must go on. Sorry for > my post. > > Giorgio > > _______________________________________________ >Hi Giorgio, This is indeed a sad, but big problem for many. I have been looking for alternatives, and so far Citrix Xenserver, Enomalism & Promoxo looks like they could do what I need. I only host XEN containers, but runs multiple operating systems on the Virtual PC''s, so I need HVM support. HyperVM is the only one I could find so far that does so much through a web interface, and also integrates with WHMCS for automated deployment, upgrades, suspension & un-suspension, reboots, reinstalls by the client, etc. -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers CEO, SoftDux Hosting Web: http://www.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
exatly will not miss hypervm -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] För Rudi Ahlers Skickat: den 9 juni 2009 23:08 Till: Admin GG Kopia: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Ämne: Re: [Xen-users] HyperVM On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Admin GG <admin@gg-lab.net> wrote: Hi, anyone here is using HyperVM? As you probabily know, the owner of LxLabs has killed hitself (i want to make my condolences to his family): http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Bangalore/Techie-hangs-himself-in-HSR -Layout-/articleshow/4633101.cms HyperVM has some big vulnerabilities and we don''t know if they will be fixed. We don''t know if the licensing server will be kept up, so it''s possible that when it expires all our server go down. http://forum.lxlabs.com/index.php?t=msg <http://forum.lxlabs.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=67554> &goto=67554 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/08/webhost_attack/ Now the only solution is stop hypervm service everywhere. Anyone having my same trouble? Any idea on what we can do? Other control panels? Doex XenServer integrate a web control panel? Thankyou in advance guys. We''ve lost an important programmer, but our businnes must go on. Sorry for my post. Giorgio _______________________________________________ Hi Giorgio, This is indeed a sad, but big problem for many. I have been looking for alternatives, and so far Citrix Xenserver, Enomalism & Promoxo looks like they could do what I need. I only host XEN containers, but runs multiple operating systems on the Virtual PC''s, so I need HVM support. HyperVM is the only one I could find so far that does so much through a web interface, and also integrates with WHMCS for automated deployment, upgrades, suspension & un-suspension, reboots, reinstalls by the client, etc. -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers CEO, SoftDux Hosting Web: http://www.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Outback Dingo <outbackdingo@gmail.com>wrote:> Promoxo ??? URL ?? > >Sorry, my bad, it''s called proxmox Here''s the URL http://www.proxmox.com -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers CEO, SoftDux Hosting Web: http://www.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:34 PM, mattias <mj@mjw.se> wrote:> what do you say? > has the owner of hypervm killed itself? > and hope you no > xen server only run on 64 bit procesor > and all peoples in the world not have a 64 bit > so hope hypervm conntinius > to exist > > >What exactly are you going on about? You clearly don''t know what HyperVM is, what it does, or even use it. Please don''t trash someone else''s thread -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers CEO, SoftDux Hosting Web: http://www.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
i have used it litle my self so yes i no what is it it are a control panel for virtual servers -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Rudi Ahlers [mailto:rudiahlers@gmail.com] Skickat: den 9 juni 2009 23:31 Till: mattias Kopia: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Ämne: Re: [Xen-users] HyperVM On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:34 PM, mattias <mj@mjw.se> wrote: what do you say? has the owner of hypervm killed itself? and hope you no xen server only run on 64 bit procesor and all peoples in the world not have a 64 bit so hope hypervm conntinius to exist What exactly are you going on about? You clearly don''t know what HyperVM is, what it does, or even use it. Please don''t trash someone else''s thread -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers CEO, SoftDux Hosting Web: http://www.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Could you please restrict your use of the list to relevant, valuable information or valid questions, and not useless cruft like "will not miss hypervm" or spammy test messages? Best Regards Nathan Eisenberg Sr. Systems Administrator Atlas Networks, LLC support@atlasnetworks.us<mailto:support@atlasnetworks.us> http://support.atlasnetworks.us/portal From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 2:33 PM Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: SV: [Xen-users] HyperVM i have used it litle my self so yes i no what is it it are a control panel for virtual servers -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Rudi Ahlers [mailto:rudiahlers@gmail.com] Skickat: den 9 juni 2009 23:31 Till: mattias Kopia: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Ämne: Re: [Xen-users] HyperVM On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:34 PM, mattias <mj@mjw.se<mailto:mj@mjw.se>> wrote: what do you say? has the owner of hypervm killed itself? and hope you no xen server only run on 64 bit procesor and all peoples in the world not have a 64 bit so hope hypervm conntinius to exist What exactly are you going on about? You clearly don''t know what HyperVM is, what it does, or even use it. Please don''t trash someone else''s thread -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers CEO, SoftDux Hosting Web: http://www.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> HyperVM is the only one I could find so far that does so much through > a web interface, and also integrates with WHMCS for automated > deployment, upgrades, suspension & un-suspension, reboots, reinstalls > by the client, etc.I''m involved in the (free software) Annelidous project: http://annelido.us/. It is a "cloud infrastructure management framework" licensed under the AGPLv3. This can be used, as is, for VPS hosting, but will soon support EC2-like functionality as well. So far, we have a working frontend forked from xen-shell and a frontend API. I believe that we support most of the features that you''re describing. Those deploying the application will likely want to build, or extend their own accounting backend. Currently, the only completed interface is to Ubersmith. A WHMCS module would be appreciated, if someone wished to contribute one. We''re looking for other companies to deploy and use this software. If you have questions, please contact me off-list. -- Regards, Eric Windisch _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Admin GG <admin@gg-lab.net> writes:> HyperVM has some big vulnerabilities and we don''t know if they will be > fixed. We don''t know if the licensing server will be kept up, so it''s > possible that when it expires all our server go down.> http://forum.lxlabs.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=67554 > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/08/webhost_attack/ > > Now the only solution is stop hypervm service everywhere. > > Anyone having my same trouble? Any idea on what we can do? Other control > panels?I use freeSide, - at the moment it integrates poorly with Xen, but I''m working on that. freeSide is open source. http://www.freeside.biz/freeside/ If other people wanted to help integrate freeSide with Xen, I''d be happy to work with others; adding good Xen integration to freeSide would help many of us. Everything I''ve done so far has been posted on the freeside-devel mailing list. But then, if you are looking for something that is already done, well, that''s not it. (I mean, freeSide is done, but it''s Xen integration isn''t.) right now I use freeSide for billing, and a collection of shell scripts that let a user get console to his or her DomU. I do the actual provisioning by hand _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Luke S Crawford <lsc@prgmr.com> wrote:> > I use freeSide, - at the moment it integrates poorly with Xen, but > I''m working on that. freeSide is open source. > > http://www.freeside.biz/freeside/ > > If other people wanted to help integrate freeSide with Xen, I''d be happy > to work with others; adding good Xen integration to freeSide would help > many of us. Everything I''ve done so far has been posted on the > freeside-devel mailing list. > > But then, if you are looking for something that is already done, well, > that''s not it. (I mean, freeSide is done, but it''s Xen integration isn''t.) > > right now I use freeSide for billing, and a collection of shell scripts > that let a user get console to his or her DomU. I do the actual > provisioning > by hand > > _______________________________________________ >Is this something you have developed yourself? -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers CEO, SoftDux Hosting Web: http://www.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Sorry guys do you know it XenServer has a web gui? 2009/6/10 Rudi Ahlers <rudiahlers@gmail.com>> > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Luke S Crawford <lsc@prgmr.com> wrote: > >> >> I use freeSide, - at the moment it integrates poorly with Xen, but >> I''m working on that. freeSide is open source. >> >> http://www.freeside.biz/freeside/ >> >> If other people wanted to help integrate freeSide with Xen, I''d be happy >> to work with others; adding good Xen integration to freeSide would help >> many of us. Everything I''ve done so far has been posted on the >> freeside-devel mailing list. >> >> But then, if you are looking for something that is already done, well, >> that''s not it. (I mean, freeSide is done, but it''s Xen integration >> isn''t.) >> >> right now I use freeSide for billing, and a collection of shell scripts >> that let a user get console to his or her DomU. I do the actual >> provisioning >> by hand >> >> _______________________________________________ >> > > Is this something you have developed yourself? > > > -- > Kind Regards > Rudi Ahlers > CEO, SoftDux Hosting > Web: http://www.SoftDux.com > Office: 087 805 9573 > Cell: 082 554 7532 >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Admin GG <admin@gg-lab.net> wrote:> Sorry guys do you know it XenServer has a web gui? > > 2009/6/10 Rudi Ahlers <rudiahlers@gmail.com> > > >> >>It doesn''t, AFAIK -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers CEO, SoftDux Hosting Web: http://www.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
I''m a bit confused, someone said that it has a web giu, someone that it hasn''t O_O Do you have any link? I can''t find a detailed product page. 2009/6/10 Rudi Ahlers <rudiahlers@gmail.com>> > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Admin GG <admin@gg-lab.net> wrote: > >> Sorry guys do you know it XenServer has a web gui? >> >> 2009/6/10 Rudi Ahlers <rudiahlers@gmail.com> >> >> >>> >>> > It doesn''t, AFAIK > > > > -- > Kind Regards > Rudi Ahlers > CEO, SoftDux Hosting > Web: http://www.SoftDux.com > Office: 087 805 9573 > Cell: 082 554 7532 >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
there are open source guis available that do somewhat exactly what HyperVM offered On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Admin GG <admin@gg-lab.net> wrote:> I''m a bit confused, someone said that it has a web giu, someone that it > hasn''t O_O > > Do you have any link? I can''t find a detailed product page. > > > 2009/6/10 Rudi Ahlers <rudiahlers@gmail.com> > >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Admin GG <admin@gg-lab.net> wrote: >> >>> Sorry guys do you know it XenServer has a web gui? >>> >>> 2009/6/10 Rudi Ahlers <rudiahlers@gmail.com> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >> It doesn''t, AFAIK >> >> >> >> -- >> Kind Regards >> Rudi Ahlers >> CEO, SoftDux Hosting >> Web: http://www.SoftDux.com >> Office: 087 805 9573 >> Cell: 082 554 7532 >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Admin GG wrote:> Sorry guys do you know it XenServer has a web gui?Ya, lots of great other tools also as long as you don''t mind using Windows for them. -Nathan _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Well, it seems, as just posteed on WHT: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=6229471&postcount=214 It seems someone will take care of HyperVM! Thankyou all guys. I''m now in touch with an italian XEN reseller. 2009/6/10 Nathan Stratton <nathan@robotics.net>> > On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Admin GG wrote: > > Sorry guys do you know it XenServer has a web gui? >> > > Ya, lots of great other tools also as long as you don''t mind using Windows > for them. > > -Nathan >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Outback Dingo wrote:> there are open source guis available that do somewhat exactly what > HyperVM offeredYup. http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc-xen_2-features.html Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Anyone tryed it out? If so In hypervm i have the options for rebuild a vm But in dtc? -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] För Thomas Goirand Skickat: den 10 juni 2009 21:29 Till: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Ämne: Re: [Xen-users] HyperVM Outback Dingo wrote:> there are open source guis available that do somewhat exactly what > HyperVM offeredYup. http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc-xen_2-features.html Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
I have just reed about the dtc panel One question What will it cost or are it free -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] För Thomas Goirand Skickat: den 10 juni 2009 21:29 Till: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Ämne: Re: [Xen-users] HyperVM Outback Dingo wrote:> there are open source guis available that do somewhat exactly what > HyperVM offeredYup. http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc-xen_2-features.html Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Mattias, i don''t want completely error-free english from you, but please can you read your posts two times before sending? I can''t understand your requests. 2009/6/10 mattias <mj@mjw.se>> I have just reed about the dtc panel > One question > What will it cost or are it free > > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] För Thomas Goirand > Skickat: den 10 juni 2009 21:29 > Till: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Ämne: Re: [Xen-users] HyperVM > > > Outback Dingo wrote: > > there are open source guis available that do somewhat exactly what > > HyperVM offered > > Yup. > > > http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc-xen_2-features.html > > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Admin GG wrote:> Well, it seems, as just posteed on WHT: > > http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=6229471&postcount=214 > <http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=6229471&postcount=214> > > It seems someone will take care of HyperVM! > > Thankyou all guys. I''m now in touch with an italian XEN reseller.How can you come with this conclusing after reading this post? COME ON! Nobody knows what''s going to happen to HyperVM. There''s only one thing we know, is that it''s going to take a long time until something is done on it. Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
That''s clear. But now we know that someone is working on it. It''s a good starting point, right? 2009/6/10 Thomas Goirand <thomas@goirand.fr>> Admin GG wrote: > > Well, it seems, as just posteed on WHT: > > > > http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=6229471&postcount=214 > > <http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=6229471&postcount=214> > > > > It seems someone will take care of HyperVM! > > > > Thankyou all guys. I''m now in touch with an italian XEN reseller. > > How can you come with this conclusing after reading this post? COME ON! > Nobody knows what''s going to happen to HyperVM. There''s only one thing > we know, is that it''s going to take a long time until something is done > on it. > > Thomas > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
yes must i pay for dtc-xen or are it free? and sorry but my english are not verry good -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] För admin@gg-lab.net Skickat: den 10 juni 2009 21:54 Till: mattias Kopia: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Ämne: Re: [Xen-users] HyperVM Mattias, i don''t want completely error-free english from you, but please can you read your posts two times before sending? I can''t understand your requests. 2009/6/10 mattias <mj@mjw.se> I have just reed about the dtc panel One question What will it cost or are it free -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] För Thomas Goirand Skickat: den 10 juni 2009 21:29 Till: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Ämne: Re: [Xen-users] HyperVM Outback Dingo wrote:> there are open source guis available that do somewhat exactly what > HyperVM offeredYup. http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc-xen_2-features.html Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
DTC is released under the GPL - http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc-xen.html Best Regards Nathan Eisenberg Sr. Systems Administrator Atlas Networks, LLC support@atlasnetworks.us<mailto:support@atlasnetworks.us> http://support.atlasnetworks.us/portal From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:03 PM Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: SV: [Xen-users] HyperVM yes must i pay for dtc-xen or are it free? and sorry but my english are not verry good -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] För admin@gg-lab.net Skickat: den 10 juni 2009 21:54 Till: mattias Kopia: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Ämne: Re: [Xen-users] HyperVM Mattias, i don''t want completely error-free english from you, but please can you read your posts two times before sending? I can''t understand your requests. 2009/6/10 mattias <mj@mjw.se<mailto:mj@mjw.se>> I have just reed about the dtc panel One question What will it cost or are it free -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com<mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com> [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com<mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com>] För Thomas Goirand Skickat: den 10 juni 2009 21:29 Till: xen-users@lists.xensource.com<mailto:xen-users@lists.xensource.com> Ämne: Re: [Xen-users] HyperVM Outback Dingo wrote:> there are open source guis available that do somewhat exactly what > HyperVM offeredYup. http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc-xen_2-features.html Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com<mailto:Xen-users@lists.xensource.com> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com<mailto:Xen-users@lists.xensource.com> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
sounds good in hypervm a vps custommer can rebuild his vps but in dtc-xen? hope anyone understand this question... -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] För Nathan Eisenberg Skickat: den 10 juni 2009 22:09 Till: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Ämne: RE: [Xen-users] HyperVM DTC is released under the GPL - http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc-xen.html Best Regards Nathan Eisenberg Sr. Systems Administrator Atlas Networks, LLC support@atlasnetworks.us http://support.atlasnetworks.us/portal From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of mattias Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:03 PM Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: SV: [Xen-users] HyperVM yes must i pay for dtc-xen or are it free? and sorry but my english are not verry good -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] För admin@gg-lab.net Skickat: den 10 juni 2009 21:54 Till: mattias Kopia: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Ämne: Re: [Xen-users] HyperVM Mattias, i don''t want completely error-free english from you, but please can you read your posts two times before sending? I can''t understand your requests. 2009/6/10 mattias <mj@mjw.se> I have just reed about the dtc panel One question What will it cost or are it free -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] För Thomas Goirand Skickat: den 10 juni 2009 21:29 Till: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Ämne: Re: [Xen-users] HyperVM Outback Dingo wrote:> there are open source guis available that do somewhat exactly what > HyperVM offeredYup. http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc-xen_2-features.html Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Rudi Ahlers <rudiahlers@gmail.com> writes:> > > > http://www.freeside.biz/freeside/> Is this something you have developed yourself?no. I''ve contributed a few (tiny) patches, and I am working on integrating it with my xen setup, but I don''t have anything to do with most of the freeSide code. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
admin@gg-lab.net wrote:> That''s clear. > > But now we know that someone is working on it. It''s a good starting > point, right?WHERE exactly do you read this? The only thing that I saw in this post was that they are going to talk about it:> "How they tend to resolve this issue and what is their goal (making it > opensource or put someone in place of Ligesh and continue the company) > is unknown as of yet.The only thing we know is that we don''t know anything yet! The rest is pure assumptions. Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
mattias wrote:> sounds good > in hypervm a vps custommer can rebuild his vps > but in dtc-xen? > hope anyone understand this question...Of course yes. Customers will be everything they need, including all the functionalities described in the page (that I updated yesterday because it was really old...). Please READ the feature list. http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc-xen_2-features.html Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Thomas we know that Ligesh''s father has called 2 software enginner to work on HyperVM. And, this is a good starting point IMHO. Anyway, i''m migrating from it, but i think HyperVM will continue existing. 2009/6/11 Thomas Goirand <thomas@goirand.fr>> admin@gg-lab.net wrote: > > That''s clear. > > > > But now we know that someone is working on it. It''s a good starting > > point, right? > > WHERE exactly do you read this? The only thing that I saw in this post > was that they are going to talk about it: > > > "How they tend to resolve this issue and what is their goal (making it > > opensource or put someone in place of Ligesh and continue the company) > > is unknown as of yet. > > The only thing we know is that we don''t know anything yet! The rest is > pure assumptions. > > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
mattias wrote:> yes > must i pay for dtc-xen or are it free? > and sorry but my english are not verry goodIf it was not 100% free (as freedom), it wouldn''t be in Debian. http://packages.debian.org/lenny/dtc-xen Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Nathan Eisenberg <nathan@atlasnetworks.us>wrote:> DTC is released under the GPL - > http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc-xen.html > > > > Best Regards > > Nathan Eisenberg > > Sr. Systems Administrator > > Atlas Networks, LLC > > support@atlasnetworks.us > > http://support.atlasnetworks.us/portal > > > > ** >Although this looks like a good product, I would have preferred if it could run on a CentOS dom0 / host / server. And even though you feel that one install & forget about it, I don''t. I do work a lot on my servers, and prefer to use something that I''m familiar with. And although I come from a OpenBSD / FreeBSD world, and have used Slackware, Debian, Mandriva, OpenSuse, FC, Knoppix, Ubuntu, Caldera, etc, I prefer to stick with one distro and know it well. If you use too many different things, you tend to loose edge. And since a lot of commercial control panels work on CentOS only, I also know that my clients knows CentOS by now, and won''t really spend time learning Debian. -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers CEO, SoftDux Hosting Web: http://www.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> Although this looks like a good product, I would have preferred if it > could run on a CentOS dom0 / host / server. > > And even though you feel that one install & forget about it, I don''t. I > do work a lot on my servers, and prefer to use something that I''m > familiar with.Get the latest version in our Git, and type "make install". It''s still experimental (I worked on it only since yesterday seeing how much this is a need for many), but there should be so many things to fix now. I''d appreciate help on finishing the work (which now is mainly testing...).> And since a lot of commercial control panels work on CentOS only, I also > know that my clients knows CentOS by now, and won''t really spend time > learning Debian.Then what??? We are talking about the dom0 support here, not at all about the domU. Why do you think we took over the maintainership of the yum package in Debian? Precisely to be able to bootstrap CentOS domU from a Debian dom0. http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=yumpackage@gplhost.com Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Thomas Goirand <thomas@goirand.fr> wrote:> > Although this looks like a good product, I would have preferred if it > > could run on a CentOS dom0 / host / server. > > > > And even though you feel that one install & forget about it, I don''t. I > > do work a lot on my servers, and prefer to use something that I''m > > familiar with. > > Get the latest version in our Git, and type "make install". It''s still > experimental (I worked on it only since yesterday seeing how much this > is a need for many), but there should be so many things to fix now. I''d > appreciate help on finishing the work (which now is mainly testing...). > > > And since a lot of commercial control panels work on CentOS only, I also > > know that my clients knows CentOS by now, and won''t really spend time > > learning Debian. > > Then what??? We are talking about the dom0 support here, not at all > about the domU. Why do you think we took over the maintainership of the > yum package in Debian? Precisely to be able to bootstrap CentOS domU > from a Debian dom0. > > http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=yumpackage@gplhost.com > > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ >I think you miss the point. I don''t want to learn Debian, nor am I going to teach my client''s a new distro either. I purely voiced my concerns as to why I won''t use this program, it doesn''t run on CentOS. And even if I only need to install it on the dom0, and then install a CentOS domU, I would prefer to run it on a CentOS box since I know CentOS very well. -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers CEO, SoftDux Hosting Web: http://www.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Rudi - Just making sure your comments weren''t directed specifically at me, as I can''t figure out how they''d make sense in that context - especially since DTC isn''t my project! :) Best Regards Nathan Eisenberg Sr. Systems Administrator Atlas Networks, LLC support@atlasnetworks.us<mailto:support@atlasnetworks.us> http://support.atlasnetworks.us/portal From: Rudi Ahlers [mailto:rudiahlers@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:21 AM To: Nathan Eisenberg Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-users] HyperVM On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Nathan Eisenberg <nathan@atlasnetworks.us<mailto:nathan@atlasnetworks.us>> wrote: DTC is released under the GPL - http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc-xen.html Best Regards Nathan Eisenberg Sr. Systems Administrator Atlas Networks, LLC support@atlasnetworks.us<mailto:support@atlasnetworks.us> http://support.atlasnetworks.us/portal Although this looks like a good product, I would have preferred if it could run on a CentOS dom0 / host / server. And even though you feel that one install & forget about it, I don''t. I do work a lot on my servers, and prefer to use something that I''m familiar with. And although I come from a OpenBSD / FreeBSD world, and have used Slackware, Debian, Mandriva, OpenSuse, FC, Knoppix, Ubuntu, Caldera, etc, I prefer to stick with one distro and know it well. If you use too many different things, you tend to loose edge. And since a lot of commercial control panels work on CentOS only, I also know that my clients knows CentOS by now, and won''t really spend time learning Debian. -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers CEO, SoftDux Hosting Web: http://www.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Nathan Eisenberg <nathan@atlasnetworks.us>wrote:> Rudi – > > > > Just making sure your comments weren’t directed specifically at me, as I > can’t figure out how they’d make sense in that context – especially since > DTC isn’t my project! J > > > > Best Regards > > Nathan Eisenberg > > Sr. Systems Administrator > > Atlas Networks, LLC > > support@atlasnetworks.us > > http://support.atlasnetworks.us/portal > > >Hi Nathan, No, they weren''t directed at you directly, don''t worry :) -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers CEO, SoftDux Hosting Web: http://www.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Rudi Ahlers wrote:> I think you miss the point. I don''t want to learn Debian, nor am I going > to teach my client''s a new distro either. I purely voiced my concerns as > to why I won''t use this program, it doesn''t run on CentOS.YOU miss the point. I''m working on porting it especially because there are some CentOS HyperVM users in the dark, and our Git version should be able to run on CentOS.> And even if I only need to install it on the dom0, and then install a > CentOS domU, I would prefer to run it on a CentOS box since I know > CentOS very well.It''s a shame that you are so close minded like many. Debian is great! Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
I think it''s great that you''re porting it. More supported distributions is a good thing! Best Regards Nathan Eisenberg Sr. Systems Administrator Atlas Networks, LLC support@atlasnetworks.us http://support.atlasnetworks.us/portal -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Goirand Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:23 PM To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-users] HyperVM Rudi Ahlers wrote:> I think you miss the point. I don''t want to learn Debian, nor am I going > to teach my client''s a new distro either. I purely voiced my concerns as > to why I won''t use this program, it doesn''t run on CentOS.YOU miss the point. I''m working on porting it especially because there are some CentOS HyperVM users in the dark, and our Git version should be able to run on CentOS.> And even if I only need to install it on the dom0, and then install a > CentOS domU, I would prefer to run it on a CentOS box since I know > CentOS very well.It''s a shame that you are so close minded like many. Debian is great! Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Nathan Eisenberg wrote:> I think it''s great that you''re porting it. More supported distributions is a good thing! > > Best Regards > Nathan Eisenberg > Sr. Systems Administrator > Atlas Networks, LLC > support@atlasnetworks.us > http://support.atlasnetworks.us/portalI''d be more than happy to have help on this... Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 14:33 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:> Nathan Eisenberg wrote: > > I think it''s great that you''re porting it. More supported distributions is a good thing! > > > > Best Regards > > Nathan Eisenberg > > Sr. Systems Administrator > > Atlas Networks, LLC > > support@atlasnetworks.us > > http://support.atlasnetworks.us/portal > > I''d be more than happy to have help on this... > > ThomasCan you point to a wish list or bug tracker? I''m stuffed for the next two weeks but could probably jump in after that. Cheers, --Tim _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hi, maybe we are interested in a Centos porting. And, a precisation: for many ISP -like me- it''s very useful having a single distro. So that, as i MUST use Centos for cPanel, i MUST use openfiler -RedHat- for storage, i prefer using Centos or RedHat for DomU. This is the reason why i won''t use DTC on debian. 2009/6/12 Tim Post <echo@echoreply.us>> On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 14:33 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > Nathan Eisenberg wrote: > > > I think it''s great that you''re porting it. More supported > distributions is a good thing! > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Nathan Eisenberg > > > Sr. Systems Administrator > > > Atlas Networks, LLC > > > support@atlasnetworks.us > > > http://support.atlasnetworks.us/portal > > > > I''d be more than happy to have help on this... > > > > Thomas > > Can you point to a wish list or bug tracker? I''m stuffed for the next > two weeks but could probably jump in after that. > > Cheers, > --Tim > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
admin@gg-lab.net wrote:> Hi, > > maybe we are interested in a Centos porting. > > And, a precisation: for many ISP -like me- it''s very useful having a > single distro. > > So that, as i MUST use Centos for cPanel, i MUST use openfiler -RedHat- > for storage, i prefer using Centos or RedHat for DomU. This is the > reason why i won''t use DTC on debian.It''s still ok to use DTC-Xen on a Debian dom0, and setup some CentOS domU. Anyway, I''m trying to write a port. Currently, I have the package totally rewrote, with lot''s of clean-ups to make it more easy to port. I have just tested, and it''s working. I only broke few things that were easy to fix. Now, can someone help me with writing the specfile? The way to do this is simply to get the git version: git clone http://git.gplhost.com/dtc-xen.git In there, you''ll find a non-working dtc-xen.spec. I need it to be a working one, using "make install" to build the RPM. Then the next job will be to move debian/dtc-xen.postinst into something more portable. I will make it in a separate script in /usr/bin, so that Debian AND RedHat like systems will be able to call it. But we need a working specfile first, and I don''t feel comfortable writing it. HELP! :) Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Tim Post wrote:> Can you point to a wish list or bug tracker? I''m stuffed for the next > two weeks but could probably jump in after that. > > Cheers, > --TimThere''s a bug tracker for DTC itself here (you have to register to get it, sorry): http://bts.gplhost.com/mantis/ but there are no dtc-xen entries in it because ... there are no known bugs in dtc-xen (as it''s a pretty compact daemon, as you will see)! :) However, if you want to add entries in the above URL, feel free to do so. The wishlist is pretty short: - A CentOS RPM package - VZ support Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
DTC isn''t just a Xen management CP though, is it? It comes with some type of billing as well from what I saw in the screenshots. I don''t know how much of a pain that might be for users that want to integrate it into their existing billing systems such as WHMCS, etc. -Mark -----Original Message----- From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Goirand Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:34 AM To: echo@echoreply.us Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com Subject: Re: [Xen-users] HyperVM Tim Post wrote:> Can you point to a wish list or bug tracker? I''m stuffed for the next > two weeks but could probably jump in after that. > > Cheers, > --TimThere''s a bug tracker for DTC itself here (you have to register to get it, sorry): http://bts.gplhost.com/mantis/ but there are no dtc-xen entries in it because ... there are no known bugs in dtc-xen (as it''s a pretty compact daemon, as you will see)! :) However, if you want to add entries in the above URL, feel free to do so. The wishlist is pretty short: - A CentOS RPM package - VZ support Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
are the hypervm repo down? _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
mattias wrote:> are the hypervm repo down?Didn''t you know about: http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/8880 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/09/lxlabs_funder_death/ Thomas _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users