What is the simplest OS I can install in Xen, preferably Linux based, and don''t tell me MS-DOS :). I have installed a minimal version of Fedora, but I want something that is even less cluttered. I have looked at Minix, but it is not fully supported. I need something small, lightweight (doesn''t have to be multi-threaded or anything), that will run small C and Assembler programs that I can use to rum some tests. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- John Krautheim, CISSP, PMP jkrautheim@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John Krautheim wrote:> What is the simplest OS I can install in Xen, preferably Linux based, > and don''t tell me MS-DOS :). I have installed a minimal version of > Fedora, but I want something that is even less cluttered. > > I have looked at Minix, but it is not fully supported. I need something > small, lightweight (doesn''t have to be multi-threaded or anything), that > will run small C and Assembler programs that I can use to rum some tests. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.It is not clear whether you are asking about the system to use as dom0, domU (HVM), or both. JeOS perhaps? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjE5OQ I have only tested it in Virtualbox. Ubuntu server and alternate desktop install CDs can be used to install a very lean system too. Running debootstrap for Debian or Ubuntu will also result in a very minimal OS. Sarunas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHsKc6ejaFVltl6E8RAp68AJ48xLxB05es3tZUGq+3mKZ+sdC5XgCbB3x7 Si1BbAvQvXW4OuFmE+zt3Rg=SCGF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Monday 11 February 2008 16:51:06 John Krautheim wrote:> What is the simplest OS I can install in Xen, preferably Linux based, and > don''t tell me MS-DOS :). I have installed a minimal version of Fedora, but > I want something that is even less cluttered. > > I have looked at Minix, but it is not fully supported. I need something > small, lightweight (doesn''t have to be multi-threaded or anything), that > will run small C and Assembler programs that I can use to rum some tests. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.I did it on a personal LFS system (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org). Very minimalistic. ;-) _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Valter Douglas Lisbôa Jr. schreef:> On Monday 11 February 2008 16:51:06 John Krautheim wrote: >> What is the simplest OS I can install in Xen, preferably Linux based, and >> don''t tell me MS-DOS :). I have installed a minimal version of Fedora, but >> I want something that is even less cluttered. >> >> I have looked at Minix, but it is not fully supported. I need something >> small, lightweight (doesn''t have to be multi-threaded or anything), that >> will run small C and Assembler programs that I can use to rum some tests. >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. > I did it on a personal LFS system (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org). Very > minimalistic. ;-)Did anyone manage to install a dom0 with uclibc or dietc and the xentools? Stefan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHsLueYH1+F2Rqwn0RCgUFAJ9lrzhEZy/2OWEjvMK76tFHzWWHXQCaAtnm dBiF6CDkutPeGig9aS0fHyo=dnXH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
DSL? http://damnsmalllinux.org/ Not sure if it includes the XEN kernel in the distro by default, but you should be able to build or download one pretty easily. -Nick>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 11:51 AM, "John Krautheim" <jkrautheim@gmail.com> wrote:What is the simplest OS I can install in Xen, preferably Linux based, and don''t tell me MS-DOS :). I have installed a minimal version of Fedora, but I want something that is even less cluttered. I have looked at Minix, but it is not fully supported. I need something small, lightweight (doesn''t have to be multi-threaded or anything), that will run small C and Assembler programs that I can use to rum some tests. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- John Krautheim, CISSP, PMP jkrautheim@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Sorry, running DomU with Fedora 8 as Dom0. On Feb 11, 2008 2:51 PM, Sarunas Burdulis <sarunas@math.dartmouth.edu> wrote:> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > John Krautheim wrote: > > What is the simplest OS I can install in Xen, preferably Linux based, > > and don''t tell me MS-DOS :). I have installed a minimal version of > > Fedora, but I want something that is even less cluttered. > > > > I have looked at Minix, but it is not fully supported. I need something > > small, lightweight (doesn''t have to be multi-threaded or anything), that > > will run small C and Assembler programs that I can use to rum some > tests. > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > It is not clear whether you are asking about the system to use as dom0, > domU (HVM), or both. > > JeOS perhaps? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjE5OQ > I have only tested it in Virtualbox. Ubuntu server and alternate desktop > install CDs can be used to install a very lean system too. > > Running debootstrap for Debian or Ubuntu will also result in a very > minimal OS. > > Sarunas > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHsKc6ejaFVltl6E8RAp68AJ48xLxB05es3tZUGq+3mKZ+sdC5XgCbB3x7 > Si1BbAvQvXW4OuFmE+zt3Rg> =SCGF > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >-- John Krautheim, CISSP, PMP jkrautheim@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Feb 11, 2008 1:51 PM, John Krautheim <jkrautheim@gmail.com> wrote:> What is the simplest OS I can install in Xen, preferably Linux based, and > don''t tell me MS-DOS :). I have installed a minimal version of Fedora, but I > want something that is even less cluttered. > > I have looked at Minix, but it is not fully supported. I need something > small, lightweight (doesn''t have to be multi-threaded or anything), that > will run small C and Assembler programs that I can use to rum some tests. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. >maybe ttylinux could be a base for this, you would need to install the compilers etc. http://www.minimalinux.org/ttylinux/ They even have a xen image: http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/xen/ttylinux-xen.bz2 Regards, Todd> -- > John Krautheim, CISSP, PMP > jkrautheim@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hi John, the question is not "what is the simplest OS? " but what are you going to do with it? From your mail you plan somthing like benchmark test ... but this make less sense if you do not plan to run an application in DomU :-) . Any minimal linux (SUSE, RedHat, Debian and many others) plus compiler will doit for you.... Mit freundlichen Grüßen / with kind regards Gerhard Possler IT Architect IBM Enterprise Linux Services ELS Wiki@IBM (only accessible via IBM intranet) IT-Services and Solutions GmbH Rathausstr. 7, D-09111 Chemnitz Geschäftsführung: Rainer Laier, Michael Mai Sitz der Gesellschaft: Chemnitz Registergericht: Amtsgericht Chemnitz, HRB 18409 http://www.itsas.de/ gerhard.possler@de.ibm.com Mobil +49 (0) 160 90578637 "John Krautheim" <jkrautheim@gmail.com> Sent by: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com 11.02.2008 19:51 To xen-users@lists.xensource.com cc Subject [Xen-users] Simplest OS possible? What is the simplest OS I can install in Xen, preferably Linux based, and don''t tell me MS-DOS :). I have installed a minimal version of Fedora, but I want something that is even less cluttered. I have looked at Minix, but it is not fully supported. I need something small, lightweight (doesn''t have to be multi-threaded or anything), that will run small C and Assembler programs that I can use to rum some tests. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- John Krautheim, CISSP, PMP jkrautheim@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Thanks for the replies. I will look at them all and give a report back as to which meets my needs. Just FYI, I am running security tests on the Xen Hypervisor and TPM interface, so I don''t need or want a lot of services and GUIs, just basic command line. That makes it easiest to determine the results and measurements I take are really from that the actions I perform. Thanks, John On Feb 12, 2008 7:10 AM, Gerhard Possler <gerhard.possler@de.ibm.com> wrote:> > Hi John, > > the question is not "what is the simplest OS? " but what are you going to > do with it? From your mail you plan somthing like benchmark test ... but > this make less sense if you do not plan to run an application in DomU :-) . > Any minimal linux (SUSE, RedHat, Debian and many others) plus compiler will > doit for you.... > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen / with kind regards > *Gerhard Possler* > IT Architect > IBM Enterprise Linux Services* > **ELS Wiki* <http://w3.webahead.ibm.com/w3ki/display/ELSde>@IBM (only > accessible via IBM intranet) *IT-Services and Solutions GmbH* > Rathausstr. 7, D-09111 Chemnitz > Geschäftsführung: Rainer Laier, Michael Mai > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Chemnitz > Registergericht: Amtsgericht Chemnitz, HRB 18409* > **http://www.itsas.de/* <http://www.itsas.de/> *gerhard.possler@de.ibm.com > * > Mobil +49 (0) 160 90578637 > > > > *"John Krautheim" <jkrautheim@gmail.com>* > Sent by: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > > 11.02.2008 19:51 > To > xen-users@lists.xensource.com cc > Subject > [Xen-users] Simplest OS possible? > > > > > What is the simplest OS I can install in Xen, preferably Linux based, and > don''t tell me MS-DOS :). I have installed a minimal version of Fedora, but I > want something that is even less cluttered. > > I have looked at Minix, but it is not fully supported. I need something > small, lightweight (doesn''t have to be multi-threaded or anything), that > will run small C and Assembler programs that I can use to rum some tests. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > -- > John Krautheim, CISSP, PMP > * > **jkrautheim@gmail.com* <jkrautheim@gmail.com> > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >-- John Krautheim, CISSP, PMP jkrautheim@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
John Krautheim wrote:> What is the simplest OS I can install in Xen, preferably Linux based, > and don''t tell me MS-DOS :). I have installed a minimal version of > Fedora, but I want something that is even less cluttered. > > I have looked at Minix, but it is not fully supported. I need > something small, lightweight (doesn''t have to be multi-threaded or > anything), that will run small C and Assembler programs that I can use > to rum some tests.The smallest (in disk size) installation of guest OS I have done so far is a debian guest using debbootstrap which I think is around 80MB in size. --Sadique> > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > -- > John Krautheim, CISSP, PMP > jkrautheim@gmail.com <mailto:jkrautheim@gmail.com> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Busybox plus kernel usually goes around 5Meg or less On 2/16/08, Sadique Puthen <sputhenp@redhat.com> wrote:> John Krautheim wrote: > > What is the simplest OS I can install in Xen, preferably Linux based, > > and don''t tell me MS-DOS :). I have installed a minimal version of > > Fedora, but I want something that is even less cluttered. > > > > I have looked at Minix, but it is not fully supported. I need > > something small, lightweight (doesn''t have to be multi-threaded or > > anything), that will run small C and Assembler programs that I can use > > to rum some tests. > > The smallest (in disk size) installation of guest OS I have done so far > is a debian guest using debbootstrap which I think is around 80MB in size. > > --Sadique > > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > -- > > John Krautheim, CISSP, PMP > > jkrautheim@gmail.com <mailto:jkrautheim@gmail.com> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xen-users mailing list > > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >-- Javier _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On 2/16/08, Javier Guerra <javier@guerrag.com> wrote:> Busybox plus kernel usually goes around 5Meg or less...but this leads us straight back to Gerhard''s question, as to the purpose for the domU. AFAIK Busybox is without virtual memory support; maybe that''s changed? If it''s still without VM support, that severely hampers many potential use cases. -pbr http://reiber.org _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users