Hi! We were able to install WindowsXP and Win2k on a Pentium D with Vanderpool. If someone is interested, here is how we did it: http://www.iku-ag.de/opensource/xen-on-sles.jsp Greetings -- Kurt Huwig iKu Systemhaus AG http://www.iku-ag.de/ Vorstand Am Römerkastell 4 Telefon 0681/96751-0 66121 Saarbrücken Telefax 0681/96751-66 GnuPG 1024D/99DD9468 64B1 0C5B 82BC E16E 8940 EB6D 4C32 F908 99DD 9468 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
FYI - The cdrom issue should be fixed in RC3.>>> Kurt Huwig <k.huwig@iku-ag.de> 05/24/06 8:45 am >>>Hi! We were able to install WindowsXP and Win2k on a Pentium D with Vanderpool. If someone is interested, here is how we did it: http://www.iku-ag.de/opensource/xen-on-sles.jsp Greetings -- Kurt Huwig iKu Systemhaus AG http://www.iku-ag.de/ Vorstand Am Römerkastell 4 Telefon 0681/96751-0 66121 Saarbrücken Telefax 0681/96751-66 GnuPG 1024D/99DD9468 64B1 0C5B 82BC E16E 8940 EB6D 4C32 F908 99DD 9468 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Do you have a newbie guide to how you did this? I am trying to get xen to load windows XP on SUSE 10.1. I am trying to follow the instructions located here: href="http://en.opensuse.org/Xen_Full_Virtualization_Example">http://en.opensuse.org/Xen_Full_Virtualization_Example The VM starts up but it gets to a point where its looking for hda (which is my cd rom drive) and it fails. I have confirmed that hda is my cd drive with the cd in it but I get this: Waiting for device /dev/hda to appear: ..............................not found -- exiting to /bin/sh Here is a copy of my config file # -*- mode: python; -*- #===========================================================================# Python configuration setup for ''xm create''. # This script sets the parameters used when a domain is created using ''xm create''. # You use a separate script for each domain you want to create, or # you can set the parameters for the domain on the xm command line. #=========================================================================== def vmid_check(var, val): val = int(val) if val <= 0: raise ValueError return val # Define the ''vmid'' variable so that ''xm create'' knows about it. xm_vars.var(''vmid'', use="Virtual machine id. Integer greater than 0.", check=vmid_check) # Check the defined variables have valid values. xm_vars.check() #---------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Kernel image file and (optional) ramdisk (initrd). kernel = "/boot/vmlinuz-xen" ramdisk = "/boot/initrd-xen" # Or use domUloader instead of kernel/ramdisk to get kernel from domU FS #bootloader = "/usr/lib/xen/boot/domUlaoder.py" #bootentry = "hda2:/vmlinuz-xen,/initrd-xen" #bootentry = "/boot/vmlinuz-xen,/boot/initrd-xen" # The domain build function. Default is ''linux''. #builder=''linux'' # Initial memory allocation (in megabytes) for the new domain. memory = 128 # A name for your domain. All domains must have different names. name = "Rescue%i" % vmid # Which CPU to start domain on? #cpu = -1 # leave to Xen to pick #---------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Define network interfaces. # Optionally define mac and/or bridge for the network interfaces. # Random MACs are assigned if not given. vif = [ ''mac=00:16:3e:00:00:%02x, bridge=xenbr0'' % vmid ] #---------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Define the disk devices you want the domain to have access to, and # what you want them accessible as. # Each disk entry is of the form phy:UNAME,DEV,MODE # where UNAME is the device, DEV is the device name the domain will see, # and MODE is r for read-only, w for read-write. disk = [ ''file:/var/lib/xen/images/windisk.img,ioemu:hda,w'' ] #---------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Set the kernel command line for the new domain. # You only need to define the IP parameters and hostname if the domain''s # IP config doesn''t, e.g. in ifcfg-eth0 or via DHCP. # You can use ''extra'' to set the runlevel and custom environment # variables used by custom rc scripts (e.g. VMID=, usr= ). # Set if you want dhcp to allocate the IP address. #dhcp = "dhcp" # Set ip #ip = "192.168.222.%i/27" % (8+vmid) # Set netmask. #netmask = "255.255.255.192" # Set default gateway. #gateway = "192.168.222.1" # Set the hostname. hostname= "rescue%d" % vmid # Set root device, see disk def above. root = "/dev/hda rw" # Root device for nfs. #root = "/dev/nfs" # The nfs server. #nfs_server = ''169.254.1.0'' # Root directory on the nfs server. #nfs_root = ''/full/path/to/root/directory'' # Sets runlevel 3. extra = "3" cdrom=''/dev/hda'' boot=''d'' sdl=1 vnc=0 vncviewer=0 #---------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Set according to whether you want the domain restarted when it exits. # The default is ''onreboot'', which restarts the domain when it shuts down # with exit code reboot. # Other values are ''always'', and ''never''. #restart = ''onreboot'' #============================================================================<a -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Windows+on+XEN+with+Vanderpool-t1675465.html#a4548190 Sent from the Xen - User forum at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> We were able to install WindowsXP and Win2k on a Pentium D with > Vanderpool. If someone is interested, here is how we did it: > > http://www.iku-ag.de/opensource/xen-on-sles.jspCool! I also get WinXP installed in Xen SUSE OSS 10.1 on Core Duo. SUSE family is suitable for Xen, isn'' it?> FYI - The cdrom issue should be fixed in RC3.The cdrom issue is similar in SUSE OSS 10.1... I''m waiting for it fixed, too. noniko Blogs: http://www.jroller.com/page/Noniko (EN) http://www.myblog.de/noniko (DE) _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hi, I am the one who wrote the Xen_Full_Virtualization_Example. I would like to know about your environment in detail... How did you confirm your cdrom drive as /dev/hda? I confirmed cdrom to be /dev/sr0 by YaST Xen VM manager. It sets the default inst source as cdrom drive and shows the device name(but quit without going further, because it freezes...) I connect my HDD to SATA-0 socket and CDROM to IDE primary slave(->not sure...maybe.) noniko Blogs: http://www.jroller.com/page/Noniko (EN) http://www.myblog.de/noniko (DE) _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
I''m sorry so much! I mad a serious mistake in the document http://en.opensuse.org/Xen_Full_Virtualization_Example Edit Configuration File Edit /etc/xen/examples/xmexample.rescue.... ->Edit /etc/xen/examples/xmexample.hvm Please change your original file to be modified. I have corrected my mistake in the document. Thanks for showing your config file!! noniko _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
I tried it again and it failed. I think i know why now at least though. Doing more research you need a special processor (I had no idea what vanderpool was). I now get a Error: Not an HVM capable platform, we stop creating! error. You might want to modify your post on opensuse to warn people if they dont have that processor it wont work for them. Thanks for the help -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Windows+on+XEN+with+Vanderpool-t1675465.html#a4582737 Sent from the Xen - User forum at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Fri May 26 2006 14:46, dstjames wrote:> I tried it again and it failed. I think i know why now at least > though. Doing more research you need a special processor (I had no > idea what vanderpool was). I now get a Error: Not an HVM capable > platform, we stop creating! error. You might want to modify your post > on opensuse to warn people if they dont have that processor it wont > work for them.I threw together a wiki on HVM along these lines... http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/HVM_Compatible_Processors I''m brand new to Xen - my goal is a Xen workstation capable of MS-Windows domU''s. The above wiki is my first attempt to gather what pieces I need. jerry _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
>I threw together a wiki on HVM along these lines... >http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/HVM_Compatible_ProcessorsI have seen that the AMD-CPUs are missing... You can safely add "All AMD Athlon64 CPUs in a AM2 Socket (Stepping F)" to the list. They rare all intend to have Pacifica on board. (Note: Athlon64, not Semperons. They are lacking exactly that feature) Regards, Bigfoot29 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Sat May 27 2006 08:26, Marco wrote:> >I threw together a wiki on HVM along these lines... > >http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/HVM_Compatible_Processors > > I have seen that the AMD-CPUs are missing... > You can safely add "All AMD Athlon64 CPUs in a AM2 Socket (Stepping > F)" to the list. They rare all intend to have Pacifica on board. > > (Note: Athlon64, not Semperons. They are lacking exactly that > feature)I see this information as useful towards a purchase decision. I''d rather leave it TBD, and only include processors available for sale currently. Although the statement above is safe, as a new user I''d find it misleading as I might believe my current AMD Athlon64 CPU in a AM2 Socket (Stepping F) to be HVM-capable, only to end up with "Error: Not an HVM capable platform, we stop creating!" jerry _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> I see this information as useful towards a purchase decision. I''d > rather leave it TBD, and only include processors available for sale > currently. Although the statement above is safe, as a new user I''d > find it misleading as I might believe my current AMD Athlon64 CPU in a > AM2 Socket (Stepping F) to be HVM-capable, only to end up with > "Error: Not an HVM capable platform, we stop creating!"I am going to give you a short report in 1.5 weeks (approx.) about a X2 if they do "HVM". :) If Xen is Pacifica-enabled, it _shall_ work because the processors are. However, if this doesn''t work, it''ll propably be a coding problem. Its sad that I don''t want to have one of the cheaper AM2-Socket A64s - they _are_ available already. Maybe someone can confirm on that? However, a short note that there _are_ AMD processors that should work would be a nice side note. - Next to the line that a detailed list is coming soon. Right now its looking like "oh, well... dunno and I am not interested." (No Offense.) Anyway, its your entry. :) (Kinda AMD-Fanboi - felt like gebeing hurt when not being mentioned in detail *g*) So expect a bunch of questions and a report within the next 2 weeks. :D Regards, Bigfoot29 _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hi, Thanks for your advice in my document.> You might want to modify your post on opensuse to warn people if they > dont have that processor it wont work for them.That''s right. Today I added some information on it in http://en.opensuse.org/Xen_Full_Virtualization_Example> I threw together a wiki on HVM along these lines... > http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/HVM_Compatible_ProcessorsYes, it''s a very helpful list. I reffered to it in the above document. Noniko _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Very cool all this. I need to test it, as I just got a VT based machine. Could you tell me where I can download the SLES10 RC ? Hugo. 2006/5/29, Noniko <hitumabushi@jcom.home.ne.jp>:> Hi, Thanks for your advice in my document. > > > You might want to modify your post on opensuse to warn people if they > > dont have that processor it wont work for them. > > That''s right. Today I added some information on it in > > http://en.opensuse.org/Xen_Full_Virtualization_Example > > > I threw together a wiki on HVM along these lines... > > http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/HVM_Compatible_Processors > > Yes, it''s a very helpful list. I reffered to it in the above document. > > Noniko > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hi,> machine. Could you tell me where I can download the SLES10 RC ?if you are not a registered beta-tester you can''t! But you can download SuSE Linux 10.1 at opensuse.org that also has integrated Xen with the YaST-interface! -- Chau y hasta luego, Thorolf _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On 5/27/06, Jerry Amundson <jerry@pbs.com> wrote:> On Sat May 27 2006 08:26, Marco wrote: > > >I threw together a wiki on HVM along these lines... > > >http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/HVM_Compatible_Processors > > I have seen that the AMD-CPUs are missing... > I see this information as useful towards a purchase decision. I''d rather > leave it TBD, and only include processors available for sale currently.I found a very helpful web page from Anandtech http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2587 that describes exactly which models of socket M2 processors are coming from AMD and which have Pacifica enabled. don _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of > Jerry Amundson > Sent: 27 May 2006 16:53 > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Windows on XEN with Vanderpool > > On Sat May 27 2006 08:26, Marco wrote: > > >I threw together a wiki on HVM along these lines... > > >http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/HVM_Compatible_Processors > > > > I have seen that the AMD-CPUs are missing... > > You can safely add "All AMD Athlon64 CPUs in a AM2 Socket (Stepping > > F)" to the list. They rare all intend to have Pacifica on board. > > > > (Note: Athlon64, not Semperons. They are lacking exactly that > > feature) > > I see this information as useful towards a purchase decision. > I''d rather leave it TBD, and only include processors > available for sale currently. > Although the statement above is safe, as a new user I''d find > it misleading as I might believe my current AMD Athlon64 CPU > in a AM2 Socket (Stepping F) to be HVM-capable, only to end > up with "Error: Not an HVM capable platform, we stop creating!"They are available for sale now - ok, so your local Fry''s or PC World may not have any in stock, but they are available to buy from AMD. AMD''s press-release: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~108605 ,00.html I managed to find at least one web-site that advertise the FX-62 processor (and several other AM2 processors) for sale, so it appears that it is possible to order them from retailers. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?Edp No=2207290&Sku=CP1-AM2-FX62&SRCCODE=CNETFEED&CMP=OTC-CNETFEED I have no connection with the Tigerdirect company, it''s purely a result of googling for FX-62, which is one of the AM2 processors. I have no clue whether this is a good, bad or ugly retailer... All Athlon/Opteron/Turion brand products in AM2 sockets should have SVM (please don''t use Pacifica, as that''s the internal code-name, and it is under copyright by some other company... The proper terms are "AMD Virtualization technology" or "Secure Virtual Machine", the latter shortened to SVM.) As the processor requires a new motherboard, there''s less likelyhood for the trouble that some people have had with Intel systems where the enabling of VT doesn''t work or isn''t available... As far as I know, there are no Rev F processors that doesn''t have virtualization, aside from the Sempron models (which is one of the differentiating factors between Sempron and the more expensive models - not sure what else besides the obvious cache size differences... Although I can''t find any list of differences and there''s currently no AM2 docuementation on the Web-site, besides the simple compare products pages, which don''t git much details, unfortunately). -- Mats> > jerry > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> > All Athlon/Opteron/Turion brand products in AM2 sockets should have SVM > (please don''t use Pacifica, as that''s the internal code-name, and it is > under copyright by some other company... The proper terms are "AMD > Virtualization technology" or "Secure Virtual Machine", the latter > shortened to SVM.)Does the single core Turion support SVM ? Will it in the future ? (I find the dual core using too much power for what I am trying to do). Yves. ---- Yves Dorfsman yves@zioup.com http://www.SollerS.ca _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of > Yves Dorfsman > Sent: 30 May 2006 17:53 > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: RE: [Xen-users] Windows on XEN with Vanderpool > > > > > All Athlon/Opteron/Turion brand products in AM2 sockets should have > > SVM (please don''t use Pacifica, as that''s the internal > code-name, and > > it is under copyright by some other company... The proper terms are > > "AMD Virtualization technology" or "Secure Virtual Machine", the > > latter shortened to SVM.) > > Does the single core Turion support SVM ? > Will it in the future ? > (I find the dual core using too much power for what I am > trying to do).As far as I can tell, there''s no single core Turion in Rev F, but there may be other products in the future that is single core and lower power - I''m just referring to what is on our web-site at the moment. The Rev F Turion 64 X2 is using around 31-33W, and the older single cores are 24-25W, so there''s a little bit of difference... Although you could probably get the power consumption a bit lower by using a uniprocessor kernel, so the second processor isn''t doing anything - but you''d be paying for two cores still, of course... :-( -- Mats> > > Yves. > ---- > Yves Dorfsman > yves@zioup.com > > http://www.SollerS.ca > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Tue May 30 2006 10:55, Petersson, Mats wrote:> They are available for sale now - ok, so your local Fry''s or PC World > may not have any in stock, but they are available to buy from AMD. > > AMD''s press-release: > http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~108605 > ,00.htmlLet me guess, based on the url handling (lack of)... A Microsoft e-mail tool? :-) I made changes with info from the above link, plus the anandtech link posted earlier... Merged, because of course the lists don''t match exactly.> All Athlon/Opteron/Turion brand products in AM2 sockets should have SVM > (please don''t use Pacifica, as that''s the internal code-name, and it is > under copyright by some other company... The proper terms are "AMD > Virtualization technology" or "Secure Virtual Machine", the latter > shortened to SVM.) > > As the processor requires a new motherboard, there''s less likelyhood for > the trouble that some people have had with Intel systems where the > enabling of VT doesn''t work or isn''t available... As far as I know, > there are no Rev F processors that doesn''t have virtualization, aside > from the Sempron models (which is one of the differentiating factors > between Sempron and the more expensive models - not sure what else > besides the obvious cache size differences... Although I can''t find any > list of differences and there''s currently no AM2 docuementation on the > Web-site, besides the simple compare products pages, which don''t git > much details, unfortunately).So it seems "Rev F" and "socket AM2" are key pieces, in addition to model number? And "Rev F" applies to all models? jerry _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On 30/05/06, Petersson, Mats <Mats.Petersson@amd.com> wrote:> - I''m just referring to what is on our web-site at the moment. The Rev F > Turion 64 X2 is using around 31-33W, and the older single cores are > 24-25W, so there''s a little bit of difference... Although you couldAre those Turion 64 X2 TL-XX processors going to be available retail and compatible with a widely available desktop board? I''d really like to get 2 cores at 1.6+ghz for 35 watts in to my basement server :-) _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> -----Original Message----- > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of > Jerry Amundson > Sent: 30 May 2006 21:30 > To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Windows on XEN with Vanderpool > > On Tue May 30 2006 10:55, Petersson, Mats wrote: > > They are available for sale now - ok, so your local Fry''s > or PC World > > may not have any in stock, but they are available to buy from AMD. > > > > AMD''s press-release: > > > http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~1086 > > 05 > > ,00.html > > Let me guess, based on the url handling (lack of)... A > Microsoft e-mail tool? :-)Yes, MS Office is Corporate standard even for Open Source developers - It doesn''t help to have unwieldy and difficult URL''s for trivial things either... :-(> > I made changes with info from the above link, plus the > anandtech link posted earlier... Merged, because of course > the lists don''t match exactly. > > > All Athlon/Opteron/Turion brand products in AM2 sockets should have > > SVM (please don''t use Pacifica, as that''s the internal > code-name, and > > it is under copyright by some other company... The proper terms are > > "AMD Virtualization technology" or "Secure Virtual Machine", the > > latter shortened to SVM.) > > > > As the processor requires a new motherboard, there''s less > likelyhood > > for the trouble that some people have had with Intel > systems where the > > enabling of VT doesn''t work or isn''t available... As far > as I know, > > there are no Rev F processors that doesn''t have > virtualization, aside > > from the Sempron models (which is one of the > differentiating factors > > between Sempron and the more expensive models - not sure what else > > besides the obvious cache size differences... Although I can''t find > > any list of differences and there''s currently no AM2 > docuementation on > > the Web-site, besides the simple compare products pages, > which don''t > > git much details, unfortunately). > > So it seems "Rev F" and "socket AM2" are key pieces, in > addition to model number? And "Rev F" applies to all models?Rev F is the version that has SVM, which is also the version of processor that has DDR2 interface. The new DRAM interface means a new sockets, AM2 being the "desktop" version of socket. There''s also a Socket S1 which is for mobile platforms and a Socket F that is for servers, i.e. Opteron models of the processor. [AM2 was originally called M2, but that''s a trademark of some other company, so we had to change it...] The key is really Rev F, sockets are just a side-effect of the revision, if you see what I mean. There is, listed on the "Compare processors" page, Sempron with Socket AM2 (i.e. DDR2) - These could, in theory, have Virtualization, since they would be of the same generation of processor core as the more expensive models - but I couldn''t find any detailed specs. The Anandtech site indicates that Sempron isn''t going to support virtualization hardware, so the safer guess is that it''s not supported on this product. -- Mats> > jerry > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users > >_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users