Sorry, bounced this the first time ;( Darren I'd happily switched to a real cert if I knew that this was the problem. Are you using the cert actually on the phone to validate its identity? I have the org unit set slightly differently on my fake CA and the phone to make netscape derived browsers happy. The trouble is that I'm not getting a useful enough error message from anyone to diagnose problem. I have also considered putting my fake CA cert on the phone to see if that would make it happier, Darren>Charles Marcus wrote: >>You're not using self-signed certs by any chance? >> >> > >I have had good success using the cheapo certs from GoDaddy - they >offer a cert with multiple Alt names so you can connect using a >variety of server names. Quite inexpensive and the whole setup was >very smooth (they are just a cheapo registrar who verify you based on >the WHOIS info only) > >Ed W