On 05/25/2016 06:43 PM, Always Learning wrote:> > On Wed, 2016-05-25 at 22:32 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >> Also, yum had associations which it was sad to lose. > > Perhaps the Fedora ("We love consulting all affected users") replacement > could be named MUD. > > Now we await the System-D controlling interface ;-) > > > >There was much wailing and gnashing of teeth when these changes rolled into Fedora. After a while, I got used to it and now it seems normal. Plus, if you type "yum update" it responds "what your really should type is dnf update, but I'll do it for you anyway". -- -- Steve
On 26 May 2016 00:57, "SternData" <subscribed-lists at sterndata.com> wrote:> > On 05/25/2016 06:43 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2016-05-25 at 22:32 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > > >> Also, yum had associations which it was sad to lose. > > > > Perhaps the Fedora ("We love consulting all affected users") replacement > > could be named MUD. > > > > Now we await the System-D controlling interface ;-) > > > > > > > > > There was much wailing and gnashing of teeth when these changes rolled > into Fedora. After a while, I got used to it and now it seems normal. > Plus, if you type "yum update" it responds "what your really should type > is dnf update, but I'll do it for you anyway". >There was a mail on the Fedora development list recently from one of the internal Red Hat RHEL yum guys. It implied that in RHEL the command would remain yum and not change to dnf, although the internals will no doubt do so at some point.
On Thu, 26 May 2016 08:00, James Hogarth wrote:> On 26 May 2016 00:57, "SternData" wrote: >> On 05/25/2016 06:43 PM, Always Learning wrote: >>> On Wed, 2016-05-25 at 22:32 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> >>>> Also, yum had associations which it was sad to lose. >>> >>> Perhaps the Fedora ("We love consulting all affected users") replacement >>> could be named MUD. >>> >>> Now we await the System-D controlling interface ;-) >> >> There was much wailing and gnashing of teeth when these changes rolled >> into Fedora. After a while, I got used to it and now it seems normal. >> Plus, if you type "yum update" it responds "what your really should >> type is dnf update, but I'll do it for you anyway". > > There was a mail on the Fedora development list recently from one of the > internal Red Hat RHEL yum guys. > > It implied that in RHEL the command would remain yum and not change to dnf, > although the internals will no doubt do so at some point.Well, from what I've heard from some Red Hat RHEL Kernel guys, it will be likely in RHEL 8.x as default with a yum compat cli, but unlikely to get into RHEL 7.x as replacement for yum, and should stay confined to EPEL. The reason given was: "(DNF is) not quite Enterprise ready, yet. Lets look again during Fedora 25". - Yamaban.