Chris Lattner via llvm-dev
2020-Jun-30 20:49 UTC
[llvm-dev] LLVM Incubator + new projects draft
Hah, whoops, sorry about that. This is the correct link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ss4jGHywL0Y2KW_l4LqTo5CgJxx3i0_4-FkbXiPQMus/edit <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ss4jGHywL0Y2KW_l4LqTo5CgJxx3i0_4-FkbXiPQMus/edit> -Chris> On Jun 30, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Thomas Lively <tlively at google.com> wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > I'm also seeing an access denied error on the first link you shared, and although I can access the second document, it doesn't look like the document you meant to share. It looks like a one pager on ML in Swift. > > Thomas > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:05 PM Chris Lattner via llvm-dev <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>> wrote: > > >> On Jun 30, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Roman Lebedev <lebedev.ri at gmail.com <mailto:lebedev.ri at gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 9:44 PM Chris Lattner via llvm-dev >> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>> wrote: >>> >>> The idea of adding an “incubation” stage to projects in the LLVM world seems to be positively received. I also noticed that we don’t really document the new project policy in general in the LLVM Developer Policy. To help with both of these Stella and I worked together to draft up a new section for the LLVM developer policy (incorporating the existing “New Targets” section). >>> >>> Ahead of proposing a Phabricator patch, we put it into this google doc, I’d love to get feedback on it from anyone who is interested in this: >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ss4jGHywL0Y2KW_l4LqTo5CgJxx3i0_4-FkbXiPQMus/edit <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ss4jGHywL0Y2KW_l4LqTo5CgJxx3i0_4-FkbXiPQMus/edit> >> Currently it doesn't open, "You need access", sanity check: is viewing >> allowed for everybody? > > It says that “anyone on the internet is allowed to comment”, maybe this link will work better?: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lC7cOJ2Iiqdx62o81J5YP7RzFHi8k2Rkt0zla-Kh6no/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lC7cOJ2Iiqdx62o81J5YP7RzFHi8k2Rkt0zla-Kh6no/edit?usp=sharing> > > In any case, if google docs isn’t cooperating, then you can check it out when it gets to Phabricator. > > -Chris > > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> > https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev <https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev>-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20200630/517ab915/attachment.html>
Mehdi AMINI via llvm-dev
2020-Jul-01 03:29 UTC
[llvm-dev] LLVM Incubator + new projects draft
Looks like a good proposal to me as-is! Thanks for putting this together to both of you :) -- Mehdi On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:49 PM Chris Lattner via llvm-dev < llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:> Hah, whoops, sorry about that. This is the correct link: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ss4jGHywL0Y2KW_l4LqTo5CgJxx3i0_4-FkbXiPQMus/edit > > -Chris > > On Jun 30, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Thomas Lively <tlively at google.com> wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > I'm also seeing an access denied error on the first link you shared, and > although I can access the second document, it doesn't look like the > document you meant to share. It looks like a one pager on ML in Swift. > > Thomas > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:05 PM Chris Lattner via llvm-dev < > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: > >> >> >> On Jun 30, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Roman Lebedev <lebedev.ri at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 9:44 PM Chris Lattner via llvm-dev >> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote: >> >> >> The idea of adding an “incubation” stage to projects in the LLVM world >> seems to be positively received. I also noticed that we don’t really >> document the new project policy in general in the LLVM Developer Policy. >> To help with both of these Stella and I worked together to draft up a new >> section for the LLVM developer policy (incorporating the existing “New >> Targets” section). >> >> Ahead of proposing a Phabricator patch, we put it into this google doc, >> I’d love to get feedback on it from anyone who is interested in this: >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ss4jGHywL0Y2KW_l4LqTo5CgJxx3i0_4-FkbXiPQMus/edit >> >> Currently it doesn't open, "You need access", sanity check: is viewing >> allowed for everybody? >> >> >> It says that “anyone on the internet is allowed to comment”, maybe this >> link will work better?: >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lC7cOJ2Iiqdx62o81J5YP7RzFHi8k2Rkt0zla-Kh6no/edit?usp=sharing >> >> In any case, if google docs isn’t cooperating, then you can check it out >> when it gets to Phabricator. >> >> -Chris >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LLVM Developers mailing list >> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org >> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >> > > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20200630/61742625/attachment-0001.html>
Philip Reames via llvm-dev
2020-Jul-01 17:11 UTC
[llvm-dev] LLVM Incubator + new projects draft
This looks to be a reasonable starting point. A couple of nit picks, none are blockers. 1. I'd hold off on handing out the sub-domain for the moment. This feels more official than we probably want for a random incubator. I reserve the right to change my mind here, but maybe we should delay this part until we see what actual incubators look like? As an alternative, maybe have a common incubator.llvm.org page which links to the docs defining the process and lists all active incubators with links to docs in their own repo? 2. The must/should terminology should probably be factored out once and referenced. As written, it takes a little effort to be sure the definitions are the same between the two uses. 3. I'm not sure I agree with the no-code standard. I agree with minimal code, but I think an incubator should be established enough to be discussed concretely (e.g. "what is" vs "ideals"). 4. As I mentioned before, I'd advocate for the notion of a sponsor (an existing LLVM contributor) for each incubator. I'd have that a must on the incubator list. Philip On 6/30/20 8:29 PM, Mehdi AMINI via llvm-dev wrote:> Looks like a good proposal to me as-is! Thanks for putting this > together to both of you :) > > -- > Mehdi > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:49 PM Chris Lattner via llvm-dev > <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>> wrote: > > Hah, whoops, sorry about that. This is the correct link: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ss4jGHywL0Y2KW_l4LqTo5CgJxx3i0_4-FkbXiPQMus/edit > > -Chris > >> On Jun 30, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Thomas Lively <tlively at google.com >> <mailto:tlively at google.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Chris, >> >> I'm also seeing an access denied error on the first link you >> shared, and although I can access the second document, it doesn't >> look like the document you meant to share. It looks like a one >> pager on ML in Swift. >> >> Thomas >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:05 PM Chris Lattner via llvm-dev >> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Jun 30, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Roman Lebedev >>> <lebedev.ri at gmail.com <mailto:lebedev.ri at gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 9:44 PM Chris Lattner via llvm-dev >>> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The idea of adding an “incubation” stage to projects in the >>>> LLVM world seems to be positively received. I also noticed >>>> that we don’t really document the new project policy in >>>> general in the LLVM Developer Policy. To help with both of >>>> these Stella and I worked together to draft up a new >>>> section for the LLVM developer policy (incorporating the >>>> existing “New Targets” section). >>>> >>>> Ahead of proposing a Phabricator patch, we put it into this >>>> google doc, I’d love to get feedback on it from anyone who >>>> is interested in this: >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ss4jGHywL0Y2KW_l4LqTo5CgJxx3i0_4-FkbXiPQMus/edit >>> Currently it doesn't open, "You need access", sanity check: >>> is viewing >>> allowed for everybody? >> >> It says that “anyone on the internet is allowed to comment”, >> maybe this link will work better?: >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lC7cOJ2Iiqdx62o81J5YP7RzFHi8k2Rkt0zla-Kh6no/edit?usp=sharing >> >> In any case, if google docs isn’t cooperating, then you can >> check it out when it gets to Phabricator. >> >> -Chris >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LLVM Developers mailing list >> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> >> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev >> > > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> > https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > LLVM Developers mailing list > llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org > https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/attachments/20200701/2e962a22/attachment.html>