llvm dev - Nov 2019 - [cfe-dev] RFC: Moving toward Discord and Discourse for LLVM's discussions

On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 21:36, Whisperity via llvm-dev
<llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> there will be the other 70+ gaming-related servers constantly nagging for
attention...
I very literally cannot cope with that at all. I can't "just
filter"
the noise on my own, so, if that becomes the norm, I'll be forced to
pass.

There is absolutely no reason why that would happen.

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 2:20 PM Renato Golin via llvm-dev <
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 21:36, Whisperity via llvm-dev
> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> > there will be the other 70+ gaming-related servers constantly nagging
> for attention...
>
> I very literally cannot cope with that at all. I can't "just
filter"
> the noise on my own, so, if that becomes the norm, I'll be forced to
> pass.
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If I am not mistaken, there are two things that are becoming clear:
1. For email, nobody seems to be against Discourse as long as the mailing
lists are still a supported way to participate. So this seems
non-controversial.
2. For IRC, people seem to be happy with switching to a more modern
solution, but Discord is largely disliked by a significant portion of
respondents.

So perhaps we can focus the discussion on "if not Discord, what else?"

Slack appears to be problematic due to lack of moderation capabilities.
Although I don't understand that, I think it is fine - does not meet a key
goal so we can't consider it.

This Matrix thing was brought up by some as a possibly viable way forward.
Can we look into whether it meets all the goals?

Perhaps a good start would be to list the goals. So far it seems like:
- moderation capabilities
- no terms of service that give the provider ownership of content for all
eternity
- IRC integration
- preferably open source and standard protocols
- free?

And probably a bunch of other goals.

On Wed., Nov. 20, 2019, 5:27 p.m. Eric Christopher via llvm-dev, <
llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> There is absolutely no reason why that would happen.
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 2:20 PM Renato Golin via llvm-dev <
> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 21:36, Whisperity via llvm-dev
>> <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>> > there will be the other 70+ gaming-related servers constantly
nagging
>> for attention...
>>
>> I very literally cannot cope with that at all. I can't "just
filter"
>> the noise on my own, so, if that becomes the norm, I'll be forced
to
>> pass.
>> _______________________________________________
>> LLVM Developers mailing list
>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
>> https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llvm-dev
>>
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