Hi, I''m using drbfire to send a "DRbUndumped" ActiveRecord object from the server to the client, through an ADSL line of 4Mbits/s download, and 600Kbits/s upload. I was afraid there would be too many round-trips between the client and the server, and unfortunately this is true: Server code: ------------ #!/usr/local/bin/ruby require ''rubygems'' require ''drb/drbfire'' require ''active_record'' require ''active_record/transactions'' ActiveRecord::Base.establish_connection( :adapter => "mysql", :username => "root", :host => "localhost", :password => "", :database => "flowers" ) class Garden < ActiveRecord::Base include DRbUndumped has_many :flowers alias :id__ :id end class Flower < ActiveRecord::Base include DRbUndumped belongs_to :garden alias :id__ :id end Garden.transaction do g = Garden.new("name" => "garden1") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower1", "color" => "color1") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower2", "color" => "color2") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower3", "color" => "color3") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower4", "color" => "color4") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower5", "color" => "color5") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower6", "color" => "color6") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower7", "color" => "color7") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower8", "color" => "color8") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower9", "color" => "color9") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower10", "color" => "color10") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower11", "color" => "color11") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower12", "color" => "color12") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower13", "color" => "color13") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower14", "color" => "color14") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower15", "color" => "color15") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower16", "color" => "color16") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower17", "color" => "color17") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower18", "color" => "color18") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower19", "color" => "color19") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower20", "color" => "color20") g.save g = Garden.new("name" => "garden2") g.flowers << Flower.new("name" => "flower3", "color" => "color3") g.save end class Server def find(i) Garden.find(i) end end s = Server.new g = s.find(1) puts "#{g[:id]} | #{g[:name]}" g.flowers.each do |f| puts "#{f[:id]} | #{f[:garden_id]} | #{f[:name]}" end DRb.start_service(''drbfire://j20.attiksystem.ch:9000'', s, DRbFire::ROLE => DRbFire::SERVER) DRb.thread.join Client code: ------------ #!/usr/local/bin/ruby require ''drb/drbfire'' DRb.start_service(''drbfire://j20.attiksystem.ch:9000'', nil, DRbFire::ROLE => DRbFire::CLIENT) obj = DRbObject.new(nil, ''drbfire://j20.attiksystem.ch:9000'') g = obj.find(1) puts "#{g[:id]} | #{g[:name]}" g.flowers.each do |f| puts "#{f[:id]} | #{f[:garden_id]} | #{f[:name]}" end It takes about two seconds(!) to get the record and the 20 associated records from the "flowers" table. With a direct or ODBC connection, I guess you get that data in about 50 ms. Here is the tcpdump that shows all the round-trips when fetching and displaying the data. 20:55:09.128686 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8924 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: S 2403473258:2403473258(0) win 65535 <mss 1444,nop,nop,sackOK> 20:55:09.128734 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8924: S 1607928261:1607928261(0) ack 2403473259 win 65535 <mss 1460,sackOK,eol> 20:55:09.148167 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8924 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: . ack 1 win 65535 20:55:09.167041 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8924 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1:2(1) ack 1 win 65535 20:55:09.167206 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8924: P 1:5(4) ack 2 win 65535 20:55:09.184771 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8925 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: S 2760493492:2760493492(0) win 65535 <mss 1444,nop,nop,sackOK> 20:55:09.184797 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8925: S 4034782619:4034782619(0) ack 2760493493 win 65535 <mss 1460,sackOK,eol> 20:55:09.203759 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8925 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: . ack 1 win 65535 20:55:09.212015 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8925 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1:2(1) ack 1 win 65535 20:55:09.214257 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8925 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2:44(42) ack 1 win 65535 20:55:09.214307 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8925: . ack 44 win 65535 20:55:09.216300 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8925: P 1:77(76) ack 44 win 65535 20:55:09.235743 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8925 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 44:91(47) ack 77 win 65459 20:55:09.236497 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8925: P 77:92(15) ack 91 win 65535 20:55:09.255106 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8925 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 91:140(49) ack 92 win 65444 20:55:09.255865 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8925: P 92:114(22) ack 140 win 65535 20:55:09.275093 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8925 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 140:182(42) ack 114 win 65422 20:55:09.291270 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8925: P 114:190(76) ack 182 win 65535 20:55:09.310076 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8925 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 182:285(103) ack 190 win 65346 20:55:09.311096 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8924: P 5:6(1) ack 2 win 65535 20:55:09.327820 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8924 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: . ack 6 win 65530 20:55:09.329559 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: S 2592880656:2592880656(0) win 65535 <mss 1444,nop,nop,sackOK> 20:55:09.329603 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: S 3256080895:3256080895(0) ack 2592880657 win 65535 <mss 1460,sackOK,eol> 20:55:09.347672 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: . ack 1 win 65535 20:55:09.352307 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1:2(1) ack 1 win 65535 20:55:09.353669 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2:6(4) ack 1 win 65535 20:55:09.353714 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: . ack 6 win 65535 20:55:09.354258 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 1:109(108) ack 6 win 65535 20:55:09.373659 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: S 3897467606:3897467606(0) win 65535 <mss 1444,nop,nop,sackOK> 20:55:09.373694 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: S 360047321:360047321(0) ack 3897467607 win 65535 <mss 1460,sackOK,eol> 20:55:09.391146 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: . ack 1 win 65535 20:55:09.399029 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1:2(1) ack 1 win 65535 20:55:09.400893 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2:49(47) ack 1 win 65535 20:55:09.400944 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: . ack 49 win 65535 20:55:09.401782 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 1:16(15) ack 49 win 65535 20:55:09.409534 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8925: . ack 285 win 65535 20:55:09.420008 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 49:103(54) ack 16 win 65520 20:55:09.420751 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 16:31(15) ack 103 win 65535 20:55:09.438745 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 103:152(49) ack 31 win 65505 20:55:09.456185 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 31:53(22) ack 152 win 65535 20:55:09.474352 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 6:20(14) ack 109 win 65427 20:55:09.474988 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 109:217(108) ack 20 win 65535 20:55:09.493595 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 152:199(47) ack 53 win 65483 20:55:09.494565 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 53:68(15) ack 199 win 65535 20:55:09.512455 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 199:253(54) ack 68 win 65468 20:55:09.513327 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 68:83(15) ack 253 win 65535 20:55:09.532815 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 253:302(49) ack 83 win 65453 20:55:09.533569 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 83:105(22) ack 302 win 65535 20:55:09.551552 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 20:34(14) ack 217 win 65319 20:55:09.552078 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 217:325(108) ack 34 win 65535 20:55:09.572542 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 302:349(47) ack 105 win 65431 20:55:09.573445 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 105:120(15) ack 349 win 65535 20:55:09.592652 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 349:403(54) ack 120 win 65416 20:55:09.593338 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 120:135(15) ack 403 win 65535 20:55:09.614390 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 403:452(49) ack 135 win 65401 20:55:09.615107 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 135:157(22) ack 452 win 65535 20:55:09.633627 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 34:48(14) ack 325 win 65211 20:55:09.634150 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 325:433(108) ack 48 win 65535 20:55:09.653991 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 452:499(47) ack 157 win 65379 20:55:09.654836 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 157:172(15) ack 499 win 65535 20:55:09.672355 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 499:553(54) ack 172 win 65364 20:55:09.673044 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 172:187(15) ack 553 win 65535 20:55:09.692343 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 553:602(49) ack 187 win 65349 20:55:09.693023 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 187:209(22) ack 602 win 65535 20:55:09.712205 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 48:62(14) ack 433 win 65103 20:55:09.712763 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 433:541(108) ack 62 win 65535 20:55:09.731567 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 602:649(47) ack 209 win 65327 20:55:09.732395 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 209:224(15) ack 649 win 65535 20:55:09.756677 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 649:703(54) ack 224 win 65312 20:55:09.757401 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 224:239(15) ack 703 win 65535 20:55:09.776292 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 703:752(49) ack 239 win 65297 20:55:09.777002 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 239:261(22) ack 752 win 65535 20:55:09.793657 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 62:76(14) ack 541 win 64995 20:55:09.794176 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 541:649(108) ack 76 win 65535 20:55:09.814645 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 752:799(47) ack 261 win 65275 20:55:09.815486 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 261:276(15) ack 799 win 65535 20:55:09.833758 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 799:853(54) ack 276 win 65260 20:55:09.834435 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 276:291(15) ack 853 win 65535 20:55:09.851996 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 853:902(49) ack 291 win 65245 20:55:09.852682 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 291:313(22) ack 902 win 65535 20:55:09.871484 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 76:90(14) ack 649 win 64887 20:55:09.872007 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 649:757(108) ack 90 win 65535 20:55:09.892348 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 902:949(47) ack 313 win 65223 20:55:09.893177 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 313:328(15) ack 949 win 65535 20:55:09.910709 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 949:1003(54) ack 328 win 65208 20:55:09.911391 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 328:343(15) ack 1003 win 65535 20:55:09.930575 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1003:1052(49) ack 343 win 65193 20:55:09.931260 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 343:365(22) ack 1052 win 65535 20:55:09.949936 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 90:104(14) ack 757 win 64779 20:55:09.950435 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 757:865(108) ack 104 win 65535 20:55:09.970301 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1052:1099(47) ack 365 win 65171 20:55:09.971122 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 365:380(15) ack 1099 win 65535 20:55:09.989790 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1099:1153(54) ack 380 win 65156 20:55:09.990452 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 380:395(15) ack 1153 win 65535 20:55:10.008403 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1153:1202(49) ack 395 win 65141 20:55:10.009092 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 395:417(22) ack 1202 win 65535 20:55:10.028141 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 104:118(14) ack 865 win 64671 20:55:10.028672 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 865:973(108) ack 118 win 65535 20:55:10.048629 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1202:1249(47) ack 417 win 65119 20:55:10.049418 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 417:432(15) ack 1249 win 65535 20:55:10.067493 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1249:1303(54) ack 432 win 65104 20:55:10.068173 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 432:447(15) ack 1303 win 65535 20:55:10.087105 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1303:1352(49) ack 447 win 65089 20:55:10.087783 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 447:469(22) ack 1352 win 65535 20:55:10.106093 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 118:132(14) ack 973 win 64563 20:55:10.106613 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 973:1081(108) ack 132 win 65535 20:55:10.126334 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1352:1399(47) ack 469 win 65067 20:55:10.127243 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 469:484(15) ack 1399 win 65535 20:55:10.145945 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1399:1453(54) ack 484 win 65052 20:55:10.146634 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 484:499(15) ack 1453 win 65535 20:55:10.165183 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1453:1502(49) ack 499 win 65037 20:55:10.165847 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 499:522(23) ack 1502 win 65535 20:55:10.183797 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 132:146(14) ack 1081 win 64455 20:55:10.184308 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 1081:1189(108) ack 146 win 65535 20:55:10.204160 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1502:1549(47) ack 522 win 65014 20:55:10.204965 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 522:537(15) ack 1549 win 65535 20:55:10.223900 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1549:1603(54) ack 537 win 64999 20:55:10.224632 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 537:552(15) ack 1603 win 65535 20:55:10.242886 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1603:1652(49) ack 552 win 64984 20:55:10.243553 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 552:575(23) ack 1652 win 65535 20:55:10.262250 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 146:160(14) ack 1189 win 64347 20:55:10.262789 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 1189:1297(108) ack 160 win 65535 20:55:10.282863 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1652:1699(47) ack 575 win 64961 20:55:10.283697 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 575:590(15) ack 1699 win 65535 20:55:10.301726 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1699:1753(54) ack 590 win 64946 20:55:10.302376 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 590:605(15) ack 1753 win 65535 20:55:10.321215 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1753:1802(49) ack 605 win 64931 20:55:10.321917 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 605:628(23) ack 1802 win 65535 20:55:10.340077 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 160:174(14) ack 1297 win 64239 20:55:10.340610 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 1297:1405(108) ack 174 win 65535 20:55:10.361316 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1802:1849(47) ack 628 win 64908 20:55:10.362136 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 628:643(15) ack 1849 win 65535 20:55:10.380429 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1849:1903(54) ack 643 win 64893 20:55:10.381110 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 643:658(15) ack 1903 win 65535 20:55:10.399292 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1903:1952(49) ack 658 win 64878 20:55:10.399954 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 658:681(23) ack 1952 win 65535 20:55:10.418157 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 174:188(14) ack 1405 win 64131 20:55:10.418687 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 1405:1513(108) ack 188 win 65535 20:55:10.439894 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1952:1999(47) ack 681 win 64855 20:55:10.440741 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 681:696(15) ack 1999 win 65535 20:55:10.458134 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 1999:2053(54) ack 696 win 64840 20:55:10.458828 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 696:711(15) ack 2053 win 65535 20:55:10.477627 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2053:2102(49) ack 711 win 64825 20:55:10.479432 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 711:734(23) ack 2102 win 65535 20:55:10.497616 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 188:202(14) ack 1513 win 65535 20:55:10.498222 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 1513:1621(108) ack 202 win 65535 20:55:10.517351 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2102:2149(47) ack 734 win 64802 20:55:10.518287 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 734:749(15) ack 2149 win 65535 20:55:10.536711 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2149:2203(54) ack 749 win 64787 20:55:10.537379 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 749:764(15) ack 2203 win 65535 20:55:10.556198 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2203:2252(49) ack 764 win 64772 20:55:10.556902 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 764:787(23) ack 2252 win 65535 20:55:10.575063 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 202:216(14) ack 1621 win 65427 20:55:10.575632 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 1621:1729(108) ack 216 win 65535 20:55:10.594675 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2252:2299(47) ack 787 win 64749 20:55:10.595494 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 787:802(15) ack 2299 win 65535 20:55:10.615038 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2299:2353(54) ack 802 win 64734 20:55:10.615728 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 802:817(15) ack 2353 win 65535 20:55:10.634650 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2353:2402(49) ack 817 win 64719 20:55:10.635306 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 817:840(23) ack 2402 win 65535 20:55:10.653014 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 216:230(14) ack 1729 win 65319 20:55:10.653519 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 1729:1837(108) ack 230 win 65535 20:55:10.673878 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2402:2449(47) ack 840 win 64696 20:55:10.674704 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 840:855(15) ack 2449 win 65535 20:55:10.692742 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2449:2503(54) ack 855 win 64681 20:55:10.693398 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 855:870(15) ack 2503 win 65535 20:55:10.711603 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2503:2552(49) ack 870 win 64666 20:55:10.712266 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 870:893(23) ack 2552 win 65535 20:55:10.738461 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 230:244(14) ack 1837 win 65211 20:55:10.738986 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 1837:1945(108) ack 244 win 65535 20:55:10.770942 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2552:2599(47) ack 893 win 64643 20:55:10.771790 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 893:908(15) ack 2599 win 65535 20:55:10.793553 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2599:2653(54) ack 908 win 64628 20:55:10.794207 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 908:923(15) ack 2653 win 65535 20:55:10.813293 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2653:2702(49) ack 923 win 64613 20:55:10.814025 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 923:946(23) ack 2702 win 65535 20:55:10.833282 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 244:258(14) ack 1945 win 65103 20:55:10.833815 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 1945:2053(108) ack 258 win 65535 20:55:10.853520 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2702:2749(47) ack 946 win 64590 20:55:10.854347 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 946:961(15) ack 2749 win 65535 20:55:10.871759 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2749:2803(54) ack 961 win 64575 20:55:10.872419 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 961:976(15) ack 2803 win 65535 20:55:10.891371 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2803:2852(49) ack 976 win 64560 20:55:10.892027 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 976:999(23) ack 2852 win 65535 20:55:10.910358 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 258:272(14) ack 2053 win 64995 20:55:10.910916 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: P 2053:2161(108) ack 272 win 65535 20:55:10.931473 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2852:2899(47) ack 999 win 64537 20:55:10.932303 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 999:1014(15) ack 2899 win 65535 20:55:10.950462 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2899:2953(54) ack 1014 win 64522 20:55:10.951134 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 1014:1029(15) ack 2953 win 65535 20:55:10.969449 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 2953:3002(49) ack 1029 win 64507 20:55:10.970121 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 1029:1052(23) ack 3002 win 65535 20:55:10.989188 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: P 272:286(14) ack 2161 win 64887 20:55:10.989689 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8925: P 190:266(76) ack 285 win 65535 20:55:11.009553 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8924 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: F 2:2(0) ack 6 win 65530 20:55:11.009595 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8924: . ack 3 win 65535 20:55:11.010548 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8926 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: F 286:286(0) ack 2161 win 64887 20:55:11.010563 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8926: . ack 287 win 65535 20:55:11.012421 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: F 3002:3002(0) ack 1052 win 64484 20:55:11.012440 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: . ack 3003 win 65535 20:55:11.012873 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 1052:1564(512) ack 3003 win 65535 20:55:11.012892 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: P 1564:1863(299) ack 3003 win 65535 20:55:11.012924 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8927: F 1863:1863(0) ack 3003 win 65535 20:55:11.013923 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8925 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: F 285:285(0) ack 266 win 65270 20:55:11.013954 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8925: . ack 286 win 65535 20:55:11.014253 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8925: P 266:778(512) ack 286 win 65535 20:55:11.014271 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8925: P 778:1077(299) ack 286 win 65535 20:55:11.014298 IP j20.attiksystem.ch.9000 > f29.attiksystem.ch.8925: F 1077:1077(0) ack 286 win 65535 20:55:11.032039 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8927 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: R 3003:3003(0) ack 1564 win 0 20:55:11.035158 IP f29.attiksystem.ch.8925 > j20.attiksystem.ch.9000: R 286:286(0) ack 778 win 0 I guess the only solution here is - as someone from this list once proposed - to use some sort of "Remote Transfer Object" through drbfire, and not the ActiveRecord itself. Is there a way to generate such a "Remote Transfer Object" structure directly from the ActiveRecord object? And so avoid building a complete data structure by hand? There are only two simple ActiveRecord objects in this example, but I can easily imagine a real-world example with 10 interconnected objects. ---------------------------------- Philippe Lang, Ing. Dipl. EPFL Attik System rte de la Fonderie 2 1700 Fribourg Switzerland http://www.attiksystem.ch Tel: +41 (26) 422 13 75 Fax: +41 (26) 422 13 76