Simon, in your recent reply to me, you noted that EDF=1 corresponds to a straight line fit. Does the edf always indicate the polynomial exponent directly? We ask because Hothorn and Everitt said "Roughly, the complexity of a cubic spline is about the same as a polynomial of degree one less than the degrees of freedom." Sorry we attributed the latter to you, by the way. Will -- William R. Shadish Distinguished Professor Founding Faculty Chair, Psychological Sciences Mailing Address: William R. Shadish University of California School of Social Sciences, Humanities and Arts 5200 North Lake Rd Merced CA 95343 Physical/Delivery Address: University of California Merced ATTN: William Shadish School of Social Sciences, Humanities and Arts Facilities Services Building A 5200 North Lake Rd. Merced, CA 95343 209-228-4372 voice 209-228-4390 fax wshadish@ucmerced.edu http://faculty.ucmerced.edu/wshadish/index.htm http://psychology.ucmerced.edu -- View this message in context: http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/edf-s-higher-than-1-tp4636798.html Sent from the R help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. [[alternative HTML version deleted]]