A ridiculous number of answers to a fairly trivial query on R-news lately - 13 messages on the archive so far telling how to do paste(c("Bob","loves","Sally"),collapse=" "). I think a lot of this is due to the increased latency because of network and mailer problems that Martin mentioned earlier, but there's an inherent latency in mailing lists that means any trivial query is in danger of being swamped by a dozen identical responses. There are very low-latency options - web-based forums. Some people object to them since it requires them to visit a site to check for new messages, rather than have them appear in their mailboxes. Well, some systems can email you new messages or new thread-starters. The important thing is that any response is up instantly such that there's no need for a dozen identical responses. Mailing lists are fine for low-level, low-interactivity information transfer, but R-help isn't that anymore. Is there any interest in this from R-core or anyone around R-core (R-mantle??)? Please email me if you have any desire to see something like this, or if you can supply any resources to get something going. I may be able to requisition a stray server from somewhere to get something going. Barry Rowlingson Maths and Stats Lancaster University Lancaster, UK