samba - Nov 2002 - Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in Samba > 2.0.7

Hello,

We have used Samba in SGI IRIX 6.5(now 6.5.11m) machines from the SGI
version 2.0.7. We have Windows 95, NT4 and 2000 clients. We had no problems
with the version 2.0.7 at all. I am looking for the new possibilities(PDC,
BDC and LDAP...) with Samba 2.2.5 and newer. I installed samba.org version
of Samba 2.2.5 and from that we have had problems with Office 97 documents
in Windows 95 machines. Office freezes and cannot save or create new
documents or open existing documents. I searched for this kind of problems
from the mailing lists and the web and found out that i am not the only one
having problems with oplocks.
Why did i not have problems with 2.0.7, is Windows 95 support forgotten from
the 2.2.x versions of Samba?
The common advice is to put oplocks = no, but this i cannot do, because it
means not to use Office 97 from Windows 95 machines(they cannot use any
Office documents from the share or create new ones at all), why is that?
Is there difference in putting oplocks =no at global or share sections on
smb.conf, which kind?
Is there a way of telling the client to not ask for oplocks, so that i could
disable oplocks from Windows 95 machines?
We are now using Samba 2.2.6 with the same problems as 2.2.5 even though
there have been discussions of correcting locking problems from 2.2.5, but
if this thing was fine allready in version 2.0.7, why does Samba have this
kind of fundamental problems?
Version 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 have oplock errors also with other programs(F-Secure
Anti-Virus, AutoCAD LT 97...), but they does not seem to affect to programs
like Office 97.
There has been also loss of documents with Office 97 at these situations,
when the program cannot save the file(anywhere anymore).
I have not heard any problems with Windows NT4 or 2000 clients allthough in
the web many have told there ar same kind of problems also with these
clients.


Hannu Virtanen

Hi Hannu
I mean that yuor problem not is in oplock but you change from 2.0.7 to
newest platform and more default values of samba conf is changed in new
version. First you must post to this list your conf that is reply of samba
command

testparm -s

afther this anybody can try help you to solve your problem.
Secondary problem is compatibility of kernels that new samba is optimized
for linux.
Try post more information.
 Bye.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
To: <samba@lists.samba.org>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 9:37 AM
Subject: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in Samba >
2.0.7

> Hello,
>
> We have used Samba in SGI IRIX 6.5(now 6.5.11m) machines from the SGI
> version 2.0.7. We have Windows 95, NT4 and 2000 clients. We had no
problems
> with the version 2.0.7 at all. I am looking for the new possibilities(PDC,
> BDC and LDAP...) with Samba 2.2.5 and newer. I installed samba.org version
> of Samba 2.2.5 and from that we have had problems with Office 97 documents
> in Windows 95 machines. Office freezes and cannot save or create new
> documents or open existing documents. I searched for this kind of problems
> from the mailing lists and the web and found out that i am not the only
one
> having problems with oplocks.
> Why did i not have problems with 2.0.7, is Windows 95 support forgotten
from
> the 2.2.x versions of Samba?
> The common advice is to put oplocks = no, but this i cannot do, because it
> means not to use Office 97 from Windows 95 machines(they cannot use any
> Office documents from the share or create new ones at all), why is that?
> Is there difference in putting oplocks =no at global or share sections on
> smb.conf, which kind?
> Is there a way of telling the client to not ask for oplocks, so that i
could
> disable oplocks from Windows 95 machines?
> We are now using Samba 2.2.6 with the same problems as 2.2.5 even though
> there have been discussions of correcting locking problems from 2.2.5, but
> if this thing was fine allready in version 2.0.7, why does Samba have this
> kind of fundamental problems?
> Version 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 have oplock errors also with other
programs(F-Secure
> Anti-Virus, AutoCAD LT 97...), but they does not seem to affect to
programs
> like Office 97.
> There has been also loss of documents with Office 97 at these situations,
> when the program cannot save the file(anywhere anymore).
> I have not heard any problems with Windows NT4 or 2000 clients allthough
in
> the web many have told there ar same kind of problems also with these
> clients.
>
>
> Hannu Virtanen
>
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
> instructions:  http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba

Marian,
Thank for You response. Here is my smb.conf:

Load smb config files from /usr/samba/lib/smb.conf
Processing section "[homes]"
Processing section "[printers]"
Processing section "[nem]"
Processing section "[ohj]"
Processing section "[proj]"
Processing section "[print$]"
Processing section "[nemadmin]"
Loaded services file OK.
# Global parameters
[global]
        coding system         client code page = 850
        code page directory = /usr/samba/lib/codepages
        workgroup = SAMBA
        netbios name         netbios aliases         netbios scope        
server string = Samba 2.2.6
        interfaces         bind interfaces only = No
        security = USER
        encrypt passwords = Yes
        update encrypted = No
        allow trusted domains = Yes
        hosts equiv         min passwd length = 5
        map to guest = Never
        null passwords = No
        obey pam restrictions = No
        password server         smb passwd file = /usr/samba/private/smbpasswd
        root directory         pam password change = No
        passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
        passwd chat = *ew*password:* %n\n *e-enter*new*password:* %n\n
        passwd chat debug = No
        username map         password level = 0
        username level = 0
        unix password sync = No
        restrict anonymous = No
        lanman auth = Yes
        use rhosts = No
        admin log = No
        log level = 0
        syslog = 1
        syslog only = No
        log file         max log size = 50
        timestamp logs = Yes
        debug hires timestamp = No
        debug pid = No
        debug uid = No
        protocol = NT1
        large readwrite = Yes
        max protocol = NT1
        min protocol = CORE
        read bmpx = No
        read raw = Yes
        write raw = Yes
        nt smb support = Yes
        nt pipe support = Yes
        nt status support = Yes
        announce version = 4.9
        announce as = NT
        max mux = 50
        max xmit = 16644
        name resolve order = lmhosts host wins bcast
        max ttl = 259200
        max wins ttl = 518400
        min wins ttl = 21600
        time server = No
        unix extensions = No
        change notify timeout = 60
        deadtime = 15
        getwd cache = Yes
        keepalive = 300
        lpq cache time = 10
        max smbd processes = 0
        max disk size = 0
        max open files = 10000
        name cache timeout = 660
        read size = 16384
        socket options = TCP_NODELAY
        stat cache size = 50
        use mmap = Yes
        total print jobs = 0
        load printers = Yes
        printcap name = /etc/printcap
        disable spoolss = No
        enumports command         addprinter command         deleteprinter
command         show add printer wizard = Yes
        os2 driver map         strip dot = No
        mangling method = hash
        character set         mangled stack = 50
        stat cache = Yes
        domain admin group         domain guest group         machine password
timeout = 604800
        add user script         delete user script         logon script        
logon path = \\%N\%U\profile
        logon drive         logon home = \\%N\%U
        domain logons = No
        os level = 65
        lm announce = Auto
        lm interval = 60
        preferred master = Yes
        local master = Yes
        domain master = Yes
        browse list = Yes
        enhanced browsing = Yes
        dns proxy = Yes
        wins proxy = No
        wins server         wins support = Yes
        wins hook         kernel oplocks = No
        lock spin count = 3
        lock spin time = 10
        oplock break wait time = 10
        add share command         change share command         delete share
command         config file         preload         lock dir =
/usr/samba/var/locks
        pid directory = /usr/samba/var/locks
        default service         message command         dfree command        
valid chars         remote announce         remote browse sync         socket
address = 0.0.0.0
        homedir map         time offset = 0
        NIS homedir = No
        source environment         panic action         hide local users = No
        winbind uid         winbind gid         template homedir = /home/%D/%U
        template shell = /bin/false
        winbind separator = \
        winbind cache time = 15
        winbind enum users = Yes
        winbind enum groups = Yes
        winbind use default domain = No
        comment = Samba %v
        path         alternate permissions = No
        username         guest account = nobody
        invalid users         valid users         admin users         read list 
write list         printer admin = hkv
        force user         force group         read only = Yes
        create mask = 0744
        force create mode = 00
        security mask = 0777
        force security mode = 00
        directory mask = 0755
        force directory mode = 00
        directory security mask = 0777
        force directory security mode = 00
        force unknown acl user = 00
        inherit permissions = No
        inherit acls = No
        guest only = No
        guest ok = No
        only user = No
        hosts allow = 193.94.63. 193.66.15.38
        hosts deny         status = Yes
        nt acl support = Yes
        profile acls = No
        block size = 1024
        max connections = 0
        min print space = 0
        strict allocate = No
        strict sync = No
        sync always = No
        write cache size = 0
        max print jobs = 1000
        printable = No
        postscript = No
        printing = bsd
        print command = /usr/bsd/lpr -r -h -P%p %s
        lpq command = /usr/bsd/lpq -P%p
        lprm command = /usr/bsd/lprm -P%p %j
        lppause command         lpresume command         queuepause command =
disable %p
        queueresume command = enable %p
        printer name         use client driver = No
        default devmode = No
        printer driver         printer driver file = /usr/samba/lib/printers.def
        printer driver location         default case = lower
        case sensitive = No
        preserve case = Yes
        short preserve case = Yes
        mangle case = No
        mangling char = ~
        hide dot files = Yes
        hide unreadable = No
        delete veto files = No
        veto files         hide files         veto oplock files         map
system = No
        map hidden = No
        map archive = Yes
        mangled names = Yes
        mangled map         browseable = Yes
        blocking locks = Yes
        csc policy = manual
        fake oplocks = No
        locking = Yes
        oplocks = Yes
        level2 oplocks = No
        oplock contention limit = 2
        posix locking = Yes
        strict locking = No
        share modes = Yes
        copy         include         exec         preexec close = No
        postexec         root preexec         root preexec close = No
        root postexec         available = Yes
        volume         fstype = NTFS
        set directory = No
        wide links = Yes
        follow symlinks = Yes
        dont descend         magic script         magic output         delete
readonly = No
        dos filemode = No
        dos filetimes = No
        dos filetime resolution = No
        fake directory create times = No
        vfs object         vfs options 
[homes]
        comment = Home Directories
        valid users = hkv jyrri
        read only = No
        browseable = No

[printers]
        comment = All Printers
        path = /var/spool/samba
        create mask = 0700
        guest ok = Yes
        printable = Yes
        browseable = No

[nem]
        comment = Nemetschek Datat
        path = /usr/nem
        valid users = nykis1 jaaju kaiju terjo
        read only = No
        create mask = 0774
        directory mask = 0775

[ohj]
        comment = Ohjelmatiedostot
        path = /usr/ohj
        valid users = +user
        admin users = admin hkv jyrri
        force group = sys
        read only = No

[proj]
        comment = Projektihakemisto
        path = /usr/proj
        valid users = +user
        read only = No
        create mask = 0774
        directory mask = 0775

[print$]
        path = /usr/samba/printer
        admin users = hkv
        write list = hkv
        guest ok = Yes

[nemadmin]
        comment = Nemetschek Admin
        path = /usr2/nemadmin
        valid users = nykis1 jaaju terjo kaiju
        read only = No
        create mask = 0774
        directory mask = 0775
        browseable = No

The Office documents are in service [proj]. Hopefully Samba is not only for
Linux.

Hannu

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <mm@tsmp.sk>
To: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
Cc: <samba@samba.org>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in
Samba
> 2.0.7
> Hi Hannu
> I mean that yuor problem not is in oplock but you change from 2.0.7 to
> newest platform and more default values of samba conf is changed in new
> version. First you must post to this list your conf that is reply of samba
> command
>
> testparm -s
>
> afther this anybody can try help you to solve your problem.
> Secondary problem is compatibility of kernels that new samba is optimized
> for linux.
> Try post more information.
>  Bye.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> To: <samba@lists.samba.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 9:37 AM
> Subject: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in Samba
>
> 2.0.7
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > We have used Samba in SGI IRIX 6.5(now 6.5.11m) machines from the SGI
> > version 2.0.7. We have Windows 95, NT4 and 2000 clients. We had no
> problems
> > with the version 2.0.7 at all. I am looking for the new
possibilities(PDC,
> > BDC and LDAP...) with Samba 2.2.5 and newer. I installed samba.org
version
> > of Samba 2.2.5 and from that we have had problems with Office 97
documents
> > in Windows 95 machines. Office freezes and cannot save or create new
> > documents or open existing documents. I searched for this kind of
problems
> > from the mailing lists and the web and found out that i am not the
only
> one
> > having problems with oplocks.
> > Why did i not have problems with 2.0.7, is Windows 95 support
forgotten
> from
> > the 2.2.x versions of Samba?
> > The common advice is to put oplocks = no, but this i cannot do,
because
it
> > means not to use Office 97 from Windows 95 machines(they cannot use
any
> > Office documents from the share or create new ones at all), why is
that?
> > Is there difference in putting oplocks =no at global or share sections
on
> > smb.conf, which kind?
> > Is there a way of telling the client to not ask for oplocks, so that i
> could
> > disable oplocks from Windows 95 machines?
> > We are now using Samba 2.2.6 with the same problems as 2.2.5 even
though
> > there have been discussions of correcting locking problems from 2.2.5,
but
> > if this thing was fine allready in version 2.0.7, why does Samba have
this
> > kind of fundamental problems?
> > Version 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 have oplock errors also with other
> programs(F-Secure
> > Anti-Virus, AutoCAD LT 97...), but they does not seem to affect to
> programs
> > like Office 97.
> > There has been also loss of documents with Office 97 at these
situations,
> > when the program cannot save the file(anywhere anymore).
> > I have not heard any problems with Windows NT4 or 2000 clients
allthough
> in
> > the web many have told there ar same kind of problems also with these
> > clients.
> >
> >
> > Hannu Virtanen
> >
> > --
> > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
> > instructions:  http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
>
>

Try set this

level2 oplocks = Yes
kernel oplocks = Yes

only experimentally.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
To: <samba@samba.org>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in
Samba
> 2.0.7
> Marian,
> Thank for You response. Here is my smb.conf:
>
> Load smb config files from /usr/samba/lib/smb.conf
> Processing section "[homes]"
> Processing section "[printers]"
> Processing section "[nem]"
> Processing section "[ohj]"
> Processing section "[proj]"
> Processing section "[print$]"
> Processing section "[nemadmin]"
> Loaded services file OK.
> # Global parameters
> [global]
>         coding system >         client code page = 850
>         code page directory = /usr/samba/lib/codepages
>         workgroup = SAMBA
>         netbios name >         netbios aliases >         netbios
scope >         server string = Samba 2.2.6
>         interfaces >         bind interfaces only = No
>         security = USER
>         encrypt passwords = Yes
>         update encrypted = No
>         allow trusted domains = Yes
>         hosts equiv >         min passwd length = 5
>         map to guest = Never
>         null passwords = No
>         obey pam restrictions = No
>         password server >         smb passwd file =
/usr/samba/private/smbpasswd
>         root directory >         pam password change = No
>         passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
>         passwd chat = *ew*password:* %n\n *e-enter*new*password:* %n\n
>         passwd chat debug = No
>         username map >         password level = 0
>         username level = 0
>         unix password sync = No
>         restrict anonymous = No
>         lanman auth = Yes
>         use rhosts = No
>         admin log = No
>         log level = 0
>         syslog = 1
>         syslog only = No
>         log file >         max log size = 50
>         timestamp logs = Yes
>         debug hires timestamp = No
>         debug pid = No
>         debug uid = No
>         protocol = NT1
>         large readwrite = Yes
>         max protocol = NT1
>         min protocol = CORE
>         read bmpx = No
>         read raw = Yes
>         write raw = Yes
>         nt smb support = Yes
>         nt pipe support = Yes
>         nt status support = Yes
>         announce version = 4.9
>         announce as = NT
>         max mux = 50
>         max xmit = 16644
>         name resolve order = lmhosts host wins bcast
>         max ttl = 259200
>         max wins ttl = 518400
>         min wins ttl = 21600
>         time server = No
>         unix extensions = No
>         change notify timeout = 60
>         deadtime = 15
>         getwd cache = Yes
>         keepalive = 300
>         lpq cache time = 10
>         max smbd processes = 0
>         max disk size = 0
>         max open files = 10000
>         name cache timeout = 660
>         read size = 16384
>         socket options = TCP_NODELAY
>         stat cache size = 50
>         use mmap = Yes
>         total print jobs = 0
>         load printers = Yes
>         printcap name = /etc/printcap
>         disable spoolss = No
>         enumports command >         addprinter command >        
deleteprinter command >         show add printer wizard = Yes
>         os2 driver map >         strip dot = No
>         mangling method = hash
>         character set >         mangled stack = 50
>         stat cache = Yes
>         domain admin group >         domain guest group >        
machine password timeout = 604800
>         add user script >         delete user script >         logon
script >         logon path = \\%N\%U\profile
>         logon drive >         logon home = \\%N\%U
>         domain logons = No
>         os level = 65
>         lm announce = Auto
>         lm interval = 60
>         preferred master = Yes
>         local master = Yes
>         domain master = Yes
>         browse list = Yes
>         enhanced browsing = Yes
>         dns proxy = Yes
>         wins proxy = No
>         wins server >         wins support = Yes
>         wins hook >         kernel oplocks = No
>         lock spin count = 3
>         lock spin time = 10
>         oplock break wait time = 10
>         add share command >         change share command >        
delete share command >         config file >         preload >        
lock dir = /usr/samba/var/locks
>         pid directory = /usr/samba/var/locks
>         default service >         message command >         dfree
command >         valid chars >         remote announce >        
remote browse sync >         socket address = 0.0.0.0
>         homedir map >         time offset = 0
>         NIS homedir = No
>         source environment >         panic action >         hide
local users = No
>         winbind uid >         winbind gid >         template homedir
= /home/%D/%U
>         template shell = /bin/false
>         winbind separator = \
>         winbind cache time = 15
>         winbind enum users = Yes
>         winbind enum groups = Yes
>         winbind use default domain = No
>         comment = Samba %v
>         path >         alternate permissions = No
>         username >         guest account = nobody
>         invalid users >         valid users >         admin users
>         read list >         write list >         printer admin = hkv
>         force user >         force group >         read only = Yes
>         create mask = 0744
>         force create mode = 00
>         security mask = 0777
>         force security mode = 00
>         directory mask = 0755
>         force directory mode = 00
>         directory security mask = 0777
>         force directory security mode = 00
>         force unknown acl user = 00
>         inherit permissions = No
>         inherit acls = No
>         guest only = No
>         guest ok = No
>         only user = No
>         hosts allow = 193.94.63. 193.66.15.38
>         hosts deny >         status = Yes
>         nt acl support = Yes
>         profile acls = No
>         block size = 1024
>         max connections = 0
>         min print space = 0
>         strict allocate = No
>         strict sync = No
>         sync always = No
>         write cache size = 0
>         max print jobs = 1000
>         printable = No
>         postscript = No
>         printing = bsd
>         print command = /usr/bsd/lpr -r -h -P%p %s
>         lpq command = /usr/bsd/lpq -P%p
>         lprm command = /usr/bsd/lprm -P%p %j
>         lppause command >         lpresume command >        
queuepause command = disable %p
>         queueresume command = enable %p
>         printer name >         use client driver = No
>         default devmode = No
>         printer driver >         printer driver file =
/usr/samba/lib/printers.def
>         printer driver location >         default case = lower
>         case sensitive = No
>         preserve case = Yes
>         short preserve case = Yes
>         mangle case = No
>         mangling char = ~
>         hide dot files = Yes
>         hide unreadable = No
>         delete veto files = No
>         veto files >         hide files >         veto oplock files
>         map system = No
>         map hidden = No
>         map archive = Yes
>         mangled names = Yes
>         mangled map >         browseable = Yes
>         blocking locks = Yes
>         csc policy = manual
>         fake oplocks = No
>         locking = Yes
>         oplocks = Yes
>         level2 oplocks = No
>         oplock contention limit = 2
>         posix locking = Yes
>         strict locking = No
>         share modes = Yes
>         copy >         include >         exec >         preexec
close = No
>         postexec >         root preexec >         root preexec close
= No
>         root postexec >         available = Yes
>         volume >         fstype = NTFS
>         set directory = No
>         wide links = Yes
>         follow symlinks = Yes
>         dont descend >         magic script >         magic output
>         delete readonly = No
>         dos filemode = No
>         dos filetimes = No
>         dos filetime resolution = No
>         fake directory create times = No
>         vfs object >         vfs options >
> [homes]
>         comment = Home Directories
>         valid users = hkv jyrri
>         read only = No
>         browseable = No
>
> [printers]
>         comment = All Printers
>         path = /var/spool/samba
>         create mask = 0700
>         guest ok = Yes
>         printable = Yes
>         browseable = No
>
> [nem]
>         comment = Nemetschek Datat
>         path = /usr/nem
>         valid users = nykis1 jaaju kaiju terjo
>         read only = No
>         create mask = 0774
>         directory mask = 0775
>
> [ohj]
>         comment = Ohjelmatiedostot
>         path = /usr/ohj
>         valid users = +user
>         admin users = admin hkv jyrri
>         force group = sys
>         read only = No
>
> [proj]
>         comment = Projektihakemisto
>         path = /usr/proj
>         valid users = +user
>         read only = No
>         create mask = 0774
>         directory mask = 0775
>
> [print$]
>         path = /usr/samba/printer
>         admin users = hkv
>         write list = hkv
>         guest ok = Yes
>
> [nemadmin]
>         comment = Nemetschek Admin
>         path = /usr2/nemadmin
>         valid users = nykis1 jaaju terjo kaiju
>         read only = No
>         create mask = 0774
>         directory mask = 0775
>         browseable = No
>
> The Office documents are in service [proj]. Hopefully Samba is not only
for
> Linux.
>
> Hannu
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <mm@tsmp.sk>
> To: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> Cc: <samba@samba.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in
Samba
> > 2.0.7
>
>
> > Hi Hannu
> > I mean that yuor problem not is in oplock but you change from 2.0.7 to
> > newest platform and more default values of samba conf is changed in
new
> > version. First you must post to this list your conf that is reply of
samba
> > command
> >
> > testparm -s
> >
> > afther this anybody can try help you to solve your problem.
> > Secondary problem is compatibility of kernels that new samba is
optimized
> > for linux.
> > Try post more information.
> >  Bye.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> > To: <samba@lists.samba.org>
> > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 9:37 AM
> > Subject: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in
Samba
>
> > 2.0.7
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > We have used Samba in SGI IRIX 6.5(now 6.5.11m) machines from the
SGI
> > > version 2.0.7. We have Windows 95, NT4 and 2000 clients. We had
no
> > problems
> > > with the version 2.0.7 at all. I am looking for the new
> possibilities(PDC,
> > > BDC and LDAP...) with Samba 2.2.5 and newer. I installed
samba.org
> version
> > > of Samba 2.2.5 and from that we have had problems with Office 97
> documents
> > > in Windows 95 machines. Office freezes and cannot save or create
new
> > > documents or open existing documents. I searched for this kind of
> problems
> > > from the mailing lists and the web and found out that i am not
the
only
> > one
> > > having problems with oplocks.
> > > Why did i not have problems with 2.0.7, is Windows 95 support
forgotten
> > from
> > > the 2.2.x versions of Samba?
> > > The common advice is to put oplocks = no, but this i cannot do,
because
> it
> > > means not to use Office 97 from Windows 95 machines(they cannot
use
any
> > > Office documents from the share or create new ones at all), why
is
that?
> > > Is there difference in putting oplocks =no at global or share
sections
> on
> > > smb.conf, which kind?
> > > Is there a way of telling the client to not ask for oplocks, so
that i
> > could
> > > disable oplocks from Windows 95 machines?
> > > We are now using Samba 2.2.6 with the same problems as 2.2.5 even
though
> > > there have been discussions of correcting locking problems from
2.2.5,
> but
> > > if this thing was fine allready in version 2.0.7, why does Samba
have
> this
> > > kind of fundamental problems?
> > > Version 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 have oplock errors also with other
> > programs(F-Secure
> > > Anti-Virus, AutoCAD LT 97...), but they does not seem to affect
to
> > programs
> > > like Office 97.
> > > There has been also loss of documents with Office 97 at these
> situations,
> > > when the program cannot save the file(anywhere anymore).
> > > I have not heard any problems with Windows NT4 or 2000 clients
allthough
> > in
> > > the web many have told there ar same kind of problems also with
these
> > > clients.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hannu Virtanen
> > >
> > > --
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the
> > > instructions:  http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
> >
> >
>
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Marian,
All of those are default settings and have been tested not to help. But why
can i not put oplocks = no, what is standard advice with these kind of
problems.

Hannu
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <mm@tsmp.sk>
To: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
Cc: <samba@samba.org>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in
Samba
> 2.0.7
> Try set this
>
> level2 oplocks = Yes
> kernel oplocks = Yes
>
> only experimentally.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> To: <samba@samba.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in
Samba
> > 2.0.7
>
>
> > Marian,
> > Thank for You response. Here is my smb.conf:
> >
> > Load smb config files from /usr/samba/lib/smb.conf
> > Processing section "[homes]"
> > Processing section "[printers]"
> > Processing section "[nem]"
> > Processing section "[ohj]"
> > Processing section "[proj]"
> > Processing section "[print$]"
> > Processing section "[nemadmin]"
> > Loaded services file OK.
> > # Global parameters
> > [global]
> >         coding system > >         client code page = 850
> >         code page directory = /usr/samba/lib/codepages
> >         workgroup = SAMBA
> >         netbios name > >         netbios aliases > >      
netbios scope > >         server string = Samba 2.2.6
> >         interfaces > >         bind interfaces only = No
> >         security = USER
> >         encrypt passwords = Yes
> >         update encrypted = No
> >         allow trusted domains = Yes
> >         hosts equiv > >         min passwd length = 5
> >         map to guest = Never
> >         null passwords = No
> >         obey pam restrictions = No
> >         password server > >         smb passwd file =
/usr/samba/private/smbpasswd
> >         root directory > >         pam password change = No
> >         passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
> >         passwd chat = *ew*password:* %n\n *e-enter*new*password:* %n\n
> >         passwd chat debug = No
> >         username map > >         password level = 0
> >         username level = 0
> >         unix password sync = No
> >         restrict anonymous = No
> >         lanman auth = Yes
> >         use rhosts = No
> >         admin log = No
> >         log level = 0
> >         syslog = 1
> >         syslog only = No
> >         log file > >         max log size = 50
> >         timestamp logs = Yes
> >         debug hires timestamp = No
> >         debug pid = No
> >         debug uid = No
> >         protocol = NT1
> >         large readwrite = Yes
> >         max protocol = NT1
> >         min protocol = CORE
> >         read bmpx = No
> >         read raw = Yes
> >         write raw = Yes
> >         nt smb support = Yes
> >         nt pipe support = Yes
> >         nt status support = Yes
> >         announce version = 4.9
> >         announce as = NT
> >         max mux = 50
> >         max xmit = 16644
> >         name resolve order = lmhosts host wins bcast
> >         max ttl = 259200
> >         max wins ttl = 518400
> >         min wins ttl = 21600
> >         time server = No
> >         unix extensions = No
> >         change notify timeout = 60
> >         deadtime = 15
> >         getwd cache = Yes
> >         keepalive = 300
> >         lpq cache time = 10
> >         max smbd processes = 0
> >         max disk size = 0
> >         max open files = 10000
> >         name cache timeout = 660
> >         read size = 16384
> >         socket options = TCP_NODELAY
> >         stat cache size = 50
> >         use mmap = Yes
> >         total print jobs = 0
> >         load printers = Yes
> >         printcap name = /etc/printcap
> >         disable spoolss = No
> >         enumports command > >         addprinter command >
>         deleteprinter command > >         show add printer wizard =
Yes
> >         os2 driver map > >         strip dot = No
> >         mangling method = hash
> >         character set > >         mangled stack = 50
> >         stat cache = Yes
> >         domain admin group > >         domain guest group >
>         machine password timeout = 604800
> >         add user script > >         delete user script > >
logon script > >         logon path = \\%N\%U\profile
> >         logon drive > >         logon home = \\%N\%U
> >         domain logons = No
> >         os level = 65
> >         lm announce = Auto
> >         lm interval = 60
> >         preferred master = Yes
> >         local master = Yes
> >         domain master = Yes
> >         browse list = Yes
> >         enhanced browsing = Yes
> >         dns proxy = Yes
> >         wins proxy = No
> >         wins server > >         wins support = Yes
> >         wins hook > >         kernel oplocks = No
> >         lock spin count = 3
> >         lock spin time = 10
> >         oplock break wait time = 10
> >         add share command > >         change share command >
>         delete share command > >         config file > >       
preload > >         lock dir = /usr/samba/var/locks
> >         pid directory = /usr/samba/var/locks
> >         default service > >         message command > >   
dfree command > >         valid chars > >         remote announce
> >         remote browse sync > >         socket address = 0.0.0.0
> >         homedir map > >         time offset = 0
> >         NIS homedir = No
> >         source environment > >         panic action > >   
hide local users = No
> >         winbind uid > >         winbind gid > >        
template homedir = /home/%D/%U
> >         template shell = /bin/false
> >         winbind separator = \
> >         winbind cache time = 15
> >         winbind enum users = Yes
> >         winbind enum groups = Yes
> >         winbind use default domain = No
> >         comment = Samba %v
> >         path > >         alternate permissions = No
> >         username > >         guest account = nobody
> >         invalid users > >         valid users > >        
admin users > >         read list > >         write list > >  
printer admin = hkv
> >         force user > >         force group > >        
read only = Yes
> >         create mask = 0744
> >         force create mode = 00
> >         security mask = 0777
> >         force security mode = 00
> >         directory mask = 0755
> >         force directory mode = 00
> >         directory security mask = 0777
> >         force directory security mode = 00
> >         force unknown acl user = 00
> >         inherit permissions = No
> >         inherit acls = No
> >         guest only = No
> >         guest ok = No
> >         only user = No
> >         hosts allow = 193.94.63. 193.66.15.38
> >         hosts deny > >         status = Yes
> >         nt acl support = Yes
> >         profile acls = No
> >         block size = 1024
> >         max connections = 0
> >         min print space = 0
> >         strict allocate = No
> >         strict sync = No
> >         sync always = No
> >         write cache size = 0
> >         max print jobs = 1000
> >         printable = No
> >         postscript = No
> >         printing = bsd
> >         print command = /usr/bsd/lpr -r -h -P%p %s
> >         lpq command = /usr/bsd/lpq -P%p
> >         lprm command = /usr/bsd/lprm -P%p %j
> >         lppause command > >         lpresume command > >  
queuepause command = disable %p
> >         queueresume command = enable %p
> >         printer name > >         use client driver = No
> >         default devmode = No
> >         printer driver > >         printer driver file =
/usr/samba/lib/printers.def
> >         printer driver location > >         default case = lower
> >         case sensitive = No
> >         preserve case = Yes
> >         short preserve case = Yes
> >         mangle case = No
> >         mangling char = ~
> >         hide dot files = Yes
> >         hide unreadable = No
> >         delete veto files = No
> >         veto files > >         hide files > >         veto
oplock files > >         map system = No
> >         map hidden = No
> >         map archive = Yes
> >         mangled names = Yes
> >         mangled map > >         browseable = Yes
> >         blocking locks = Yes
> >         csc policy = manual
> >         fake oplocks = No
> >         locking = Yes
> >         oplocks = Yes
> >         level2 oplocks = No
> >         oplock contention limit = 2
> >         posix locking = Yes
> >         strict locking = No
> >         share modes = Yes
> >         copy > >         include > >         exec >
>         preexec close = No
> >         postexec > >         root preexec > >         root
preexec close = No
> >         root postexec > >         available = Yes
> >         volume > >         fstype = NTFS
> >         set directory = No
> >         wide links = Yes
> >         follow symlinks = Yes
> >         dont descend > >         magic script > >        
magic output > >         delete readonly = No
> >         dos filemode = No
> >         dos filetimes = No
> >         dos filetime resolution = No
> >         fake directory create times = No
> >         vfs object > >         vfs options > >
> > [homes]
> >         comment = Home Directories
> >         valid users = hkv jyrri
> >         read only = No
> >         browseable = No
> >
> > [printers]
> >         comment = All Printers
> >         path = /var/spool/samba
> >         create mask = 0700
> >         guest ok = Yes
> >         printable = Yes
> >         browseable = No
> >
> > [nem]
> >         comment = Nemetschek Datat
> >         path = /usr/nem
> >         valid users = nykis1 jaaju kaiju terjo
> >         read only = No
> >         create mask = 0774
> >         directory mask = 0775
> >
> > [ohj]
> >         comment = Ohjelmatiedostot
> >         path = /usr/ohj
> >         valid users = +user
> >         admin users = admin hkv jyrri
> >         force group = sys
> >         read only = No
> >
> > [proj]
> >         comment = Projektihakemisto
> >         path = /usr/proj
> >         valid users = +user
> >         read only = No
> >         create mask = 0774
> >         directory mask = 0775
> >
> > [print$]
> >         path = /usr/samba/printer
> >         admin users = hkv
> >         write list = hkv
> >         guest ok = Yes
> >
> > [nemadmin]
> >         comment = Nemetschek Admin
> >         path = /usr2/nemadmin
> >         valid users = nykis1 jaaju terjo kaiju
> >         read only = No
> >         create mask = 0774
> >         directory mask = 0775
> >         browseable = No
> >
> > The Office documents are in service [proj]. Hopefully Samba is not
only
> for
> > Linux.
> >
> > Hannu
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <mm@tsmp.sk>
> > To: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> > Cc: <samba@samba.org>
> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in
> Samba
> > > 2.0.7
> >
> >
> > > Hi Hannu
> > > I mean that yuor problem not is in oplock but you change from
2.0.7 to
> > > newest platform and more default values of samba conf is changed
in
new
> > > version. First you must post to this list your conf that is reply
of
> samba
> > > command
> > >
> > > testparm -s
> > >
> > > afther this anybody can try help you to solve your problem.
> > > Secondary problem is compatibility of kernels that new samba is
> optimized
> > > for linux.
> > > Try post more information.
> > >  Bye.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> > > To: <samba@lists.samba.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 9:37 AM
> > > Subject: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in
Samba
> >
> > > 2.0.7
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > We have used Samba in SGI IRIX 6.5(now 6.5.11m) machines
from the
SGI
> > > > version 2.0.7. We have Windows 95, NT4 and 2000 clients. We
had no
> > > problems
> > > > with the version 2.0.7 at all. I am looking for the new
> > possibilities(PDC,
> > > > BDC and LDAP...) with Samba 2.2.5 and newer. I installed
samba.org
> > version
> > > > of Samba 2.2.5 and from that we have had problems with
Office 97
> > documents
> > > > in Windows 95 machines. Office freezes and cannot save or
create new
> > > > documents or open existing documents. I searched for this
kind of
> > problems
> > > > from the mailing lists and the web and found out that i am
not the
> only
> > > one
> > > > having problems with oplocks.
> > > > Why did i not have problems with 2.0.7, is Windows 95
support
> forgotten
> > > from
> > > > the 2.2.x versions of Samba?
> > > > The common advice is to put oplocks = no, but this i cannot
do,
> because
> > it
> > > > means not to use Office 97 from Windows 95 machines(they
cannot use
> any
> > > > Office documents from the share or create new ones at all),
why is
> that?
> > > > Is there difference in putting oplocks =no at global or
share
sections
> > on
> > > > smb.conf, which kind?
> > > > Is there a way of telling the client to not ask for oplocks,
so that
i
> > > could
> > > > disable oplocks from Windows 95 machines?
> > > > We are now using Samba 2.2.6 with the same problems as 2.2.5
even
> though
> > > > there have been discussions of correcting locking problems
from
2.2.5,
> > but
> > > > if this thing was fine allready in version 2.0.7, why does
Samba
have
> > this
> > > > kind of fundamental problems?
> > > > Version 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 have oplock errors also with other
> > > programs(F-Secure
> > > > Anti-Virus, AutoCAD LT 97...), but they does not seem to
affect to
> > > programs
> > > > like Office 97.
> > > > There has been also loss of documents with Office 97 at
these
> > situations,
> > > > when the program cannot save the file(anywhere anymore).
> > > > I have not heard any problems with Windows NT4 or 2000
clients
> allthough
> > > in
> > > > the web many have told there ar same kind of problems also
with
these
> > > > clients.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hannu Virtanen
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and
read the
> > > > instructions:  http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
> > >
> > >
> >
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>
>

I dont understand what defaults you mean
i use smaba 2.2.6 and its default is
level2 oplocks = Yes
kernel oplocks = Yes            (this two is autodetect by samba and kernel
support by samba docs IRIX have this but you have set NO???)
oplock break wait time = 0    (samba docs write not change this
parameter...)

you have
level2 oplocks = no
kernel oplocks = no
oplock break wait time = 10
this your setings is default by your system or set in your conf file?

By docs oplocks is share parameter that must by defined in share not global.
best choice is try use veto oplock files= ... and leave oplocks on.

And last what version of W95 you use? W95 W95a W95B ?
If W95 then you must update to W95a by service pack from microsoft www.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
To: <samba@samba.org>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in
Samba
> 2.0.7
> Marian,
> All of those are default settings and have been tested not to help. But
why
> can i not put oplocks = no, what is standard advice with these kind of
> problems.
>
> Hannu
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <mm@tsmp.sk>
> To: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> Cc: <samba@samba.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in
Samba
> > 2.0.7
>
>
> > Try set this
> >
> > level2 oplocks = Yes
> > kernel oplocks = Yes
> >
> > only experimentally.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> > To: <samba@samba.org>
> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in
> Samba
> > > 2.0.7
> >
> >
> > > Marian,
> > > Thank for You response. Here is my smb.conf:
> > >
> > > Load smb config files from /usr/samba/lib/smb.conf
> > > Processing section "[homes]"
> > > Processing section "[printers]"
> > > Processing section "[nem]"
> > > Processing section "[ohj]"
> > > Processing section "[proj]"
> > > Processing section "[print$]"
> > > Processing section "[nemadmin]"
> > > Loaded services file OK.
> > > # Global parameters
> > > [global]
> > >         coding system > > >         client code page =
850
> > >         code page directory = /usr/samba/lib/codepages
> > >         workgroup = SAMBA
> > >         netbios name > > >         netbios aliases >
> >         netbios scope > > >         server string = Samba
2.2.6
> > >         interfaces > > >         bind interfaces only =
No
> > >         security = USER
> > >         encrypt passwords = Yes
> > >         update encrypted = No
> > >         allow trusted domains = Yes
> > >         hosts equiv > > >         min passwd length = 5
> > >         map to guest = Never
> > >         null passwords = No
> > >         obey pam restrictions = No
> > >         password server > > >         smb passwd file =
/usr/samba/private/smbpasswd
> > >         root directory > > >         pam password change
= No
> > >         passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
> > >         passwd chat = *ew*password:* %n\n *e-enter*new*password:*
%n\n
> > >         passwd chat debug = No
> > >         username map > > >         password level = 0
> > >         username level = 0
> > >         unix password sync = No
> > >         restrict anonymous = No
> > >         lanman auth = Yes
> > >         use rhosts = No
> > >         admin log = No
> > >         log level = 0
> > >         syslog = 1
> > >         syslog only = No
> > >         log file > > >         max log size = 50
> > >         timestamp logs = Yes
> > >         debug hires timestamp = No
> > >         debug pid = No
> > >         debug uid = No
> > >         protocol = NT1
> > >         large readwrite = Yes
> > >         max protocol = NT1
> > >         min protocol = CORE
> > >         read bmpx = No
> > >         read raw = Yes
> > >         write raw = Yes
> > >         nt smb support = Yes
> > >         nt pipe support = Yes
> > >         nt status support = Yes
> > >         announce version = 4.9
> > >         announce as = NT
> > >         max mux = 50
> > >         max xmit = 16644
> > >         name resolve order = lmhosts host wins bcast
> > >         max ttl = 259200
> > >         max wins ttl = 518400
> > >         min wins ttl = 21600
> > >         time server = No
> > >         unix extensions = No
> > >         change notify timeout = 60
> > >         deadtime = 15
> > >         getwd cache = Yes
> > >         keepalive = 300
> > >         lpq cache time = 10
> > >         max smbd processes = 0
> > >         max disk size = 0
> > >         max open files = 10000
> > >         name cache timeout = 660
> > >         read size = 16384
> > >         socket options = TCP_NODELAY
> > >         stat cache size = 50
> > >         use mmap = Yes
> > >         total print jobs = 0
> > >         load printers = Yes
> > >         printcap name = /etc/printcap
> > >         disable spoolss = No
> > >         enumports command > > >         addprinter
command > > >         deleteprinter command > > >         show
add printer wizard = Yes
> > >         os2 driver map > > >         strip dot = No
> > >         mangling method = hash
> > >         character set > > >         mangled stack = 50
> > >         stat cache = Yes
> > >         domain admin group > > >         domain guest
group > > >         machine password timeout = 604800
> > >         add user script > > >         delete user script
> > >         logon script > > >         logon path =
\\%N\%U\profile
> > >         logon drive > > >         logon home = \\%N\%U
> > >         domain logons = No
> > >         os level = 65
> > >         lm announce = Auto
> > >         lm interval = 60
> > >         preferred master = Yes
> > >         local master = Yes
> > >         domain master = Yes
> > >         browse list = Yes
> > >         enhanced browsing = Yes
> > >         dns proxy = Yes
> > >         wins proxy = No
> > >         wins server > > >         wins support = Yes
> > >         wins hook > > >         kernel oplocks = No
> > >         lock spin count = 3
> > >         lock spin time = 10
> > >         oplock break wait time = 10
> > >         add share command > > >         change share
command > > >         delete share command > > >        
config file > > >         preload > > >         lock dir =
/usr/samba/var/locks
> > >         pid directory = /usr/samba/var/locks
> > >         default service > > >         message command
> > >         dfree command > > >         valid chars >
> >         remote announce > > >         remote browse sync >
> >         socket address = 0.0.0.0
> > >         homedir map > > >         time offset = 0
> > >         NIS homedir = No
> > >         source environment > > >         panic action
> > >         hide local users = No
> > >         winbind uid > > >         winbind gid > >
>         template homedir = /home/%D/%U
> > >         template shell = /bin/false
> > >         winbind separator = \
> > >         winbind cache time = 15
> > >         winbind enum users = Yes
> > >         winbind enum groups = Yes
> > >         winbind use default domain = No
> > >         comment = Samba %v
> > >         path > > >         alternate permissions = No
> > >         username > > >         guest account = nobody
> > >         invalid users > > >         valid users >
> >         admin users > > >         read list > > >   
write list > > >         printer admin = hkv
> > >         force user > > >         force group > >
>         read only = Yes
> > >         create mask = 0744
> > >         force create mode = 00
> > >         security mask = 0777
> > >         force security mode = 00
> > >         directory mask = 0755
> > >         force directory mode = 00
> > >         directory security mask = 0777
> > >         force directory security mode = 00
> > >         force unknown acl user = 00
> > >         inherit permissions = No
> > >         inherit acls = No
> > >         guest only = No
> > >         guest ok = No
> > >         only user = No
> > >         hosts allow = 193.94.63. 193.66.15.38
> > >         hosts deny > > >         status = Yes
> > >         nt acl support = Yes
> > >         profile acls = No
> > >         block size = 1024
> > >         max connections = 0
> > >         min print space = 0
> > >         strict allocate = No
> > >         strict sync = No
> > >         sync always = No
> > >         write cache size = 0
> > >         max print jobs = 1000
> > >         printable = No
> > >         postscript = No
> > >         printing = bsd
> > >         print command = /usr/bsd/lpr -r -h -P%p %s
> > >         lpq command = /usr/bsd/lpq -P%p
> > >         lprm command = /usr/bsd/lprm -P%p %j
> > >         lppause command > > >         lpresume command
> > >         queuepause command = disable %p
> > >         queueresume command = enable %p
> > >         printer name > > >         use client driver =
No
> > >         default devmode = No
> > >         printer driver > > >         printer driver file
= /usr/samba/lib/printers.def
> > >         printer driver location > > >         default
case = lower
> > >         case sensitive = No
> > >         preserve case = Yes
> > >         short preserve case = Yes
> > >         mangle case = No
> > >         mangling char = ~
> > >         hide dot files = Yes
> > >         hide unreadable = No
> > >         delete veto files = No
> > >         veto files > > >         hide files > >
>         veto oplock files > > >         map system = No
> > >         map hidden = No
> > >         map archive = Yes
> > >         mangled names = Yes
> > >         mangled map > > >         browseable = Yes
> > >         blocking locks = Yes
> > >         csc policy = manual
> > >         fake oplocks = No
> > >         locking = Yes
> > >         oplocks = Yes
> > >         level2 oplocks = No
> > >         oplock contention limit = 2
> > >         posix locking = Yes
> > >         strict locking = No
> > >         share modes = Yes
> > >         copy > > >         include > > >       
exec > > >         preexec close = No
> > >         postexec > > >         root preexec > >
>         root preexec close = No
> > >         root postexec > > >         available = Yes
> > >         volume > > >         fstype = NTFS
> > >         set directory = No
> > >         wide links = Yes
> > >         follow symlinks = Yes
> > >         dont descend > > >         magic script >
> >         magic output > > >         delete readonly = No
> > >         dos filemode = No
> > >         dos filetimes = No
> > >         dos filetime resolution = No
> > >         fake directory create times = No
> > >         vfs object > > >         vfs options > >
>
> > > [homes]
> > >         comment = Home Directories
> > >         valid users = hkv jyrri
> > >         read only = No
> > >         browseable = No
> > >
> > > [printers]
> > >         comment = All Printers
> > >         path = /var/spool/samba
> > >         create mask = 0700
> > >         guest ok = Yes
> > >         printable = Yes
> > >         browseable = No
> > >
> > > [nem]
> > >         comment = Nemetschek Datat
> > >         path = /usr/nem
> > >         valid users = nykis1 jaaju kaiju terjo
> > >         read only = No
> > >         create mask = 0774
> > >         directory mask = 0775
> > >
> > > [ohj]
> > >         comment = Ohjelmatiedostot
> > >         path = /usr/ohj
> > >         valid users = +user
> > >         admin users = admin hkv jyrri
> > >         force group = sys
> > >         read only = No
> > >
> > > [proj]
> > >         comment = Projektihakemisto
> > >         path = /usr/proj
> > >         valid users = +user
> > >         read only = No
> > >         create mask = 0774
> > >         directory mask = 0775
> > >
> > > [print$]
> > >         path = /usr/samba/printer
> > >         admin users = hkv
> > >         write list = hkv
> > >         guest ok = Yes
> > >
> > > [nemadmin]
> > >         comment = Nemetschek Admin
> > >         path = /usr2/nemadmin
> > >         valid users = nykis1 jaaju terjo kaiju
> > >         read only = No
> > >         create mask = 0774
> > >         directory mask = 0775
> > >         browseable = No
> > >
> > > The Office documents are in service [proj]. Hopefully Samba is
not
only
> > for
> > > Linux.
> > >
> > > Hannu
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <mm@tsmp.sk>
> > > To: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> > > Cc: <samba@samba.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:06 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows
95 in
> > Samba
> > > > 2.0.7
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Hannu
> > > > I mean that yuor problem not is in oplock but you change
from 2.0.7
to
> > > > newest platform and more default values of samba conf is
changed in
> new
> > > > version. First you must post to this list your conf that is
reply of
> > samba
> > > > command
> > > >
> > > > testparm -s
> > > >
> > > > afther this anybody can try help you to solve your problem.
> > > > Secondary problem is compatibility of kernels that new samba
is
> > optimized
> > > > for linux.
> > > > Try post more information.
> > > >  Bye.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> > > > To: <samba@lists.samba.org>
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 9:37 AM
> > > > Subject: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows
95 in
> Samba
> > >
> > > > 2.0.7
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > We have used Samba in SGI IRIX 6.5(now 6.5.11m)
machines from the
> SGI
> > > > > version 2.0.7. We have Windows 95, NT4 and 2000
clients. We had no
> > > > problems
> > > > > with the version 2.0.7 at all. I am looking for the new
> > > possibilities(PDC,
> > > > > BDC and LDAP...) with Samba 2.2.5 and newer. I
installed samba.org
> > > version
> > > > > of Samba 2.2.5 and from that we have had problems with
Office 97
> > > documents
> > > > > in Windows 95 machines. Office freezes and cannot save
or create
new
> > > > > documents or open existing documents. I searched for
this kind of
> > > problems
> > > > > from the mailing lists and the web and found out that i
am not the
> > only
> > > > one
> > > > > having problems with oplocks.
> > > > > Why did i not have problems with 2.0.7, is Windows 95
support
> > forgotten
> > > > from
> > > > > the 2.2.x versions of Samba?
> > > > > The common advice is to put oplocks = no, but this i
cannot do,
> > because
> > > it
> > > > > means not to use Office 97 from Windows 95
machines(they cannot
use
> > any
> > > > > Office documents from the share or create new ones at
all), why is
> > that?
> > > > > Is there difference in putting oplocks =no at global or
share
> sections
> > > on
> > > > > smb.conf, which kind?
> > > > > Is there a way of telling the client to not ask for
oplocks, so
that
> i
> > > > could
> > > > > disable oplocks from Windows 95 machines?
> > > > > We are now using Samba 2.2.6 with the same problems as
2.2.5 even
> > though
> > > > > there have been discussions of correcting locking
problems from
> 2.2.5,
> > > but
> > > > > if this thing was fine allready in version 2.0.7, why
does Samba
> have
> > > this
> > > > > kind of fundamental problems?
> > > > > Version 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 have oplock errors also with
other
> > > > programs(F-Secure
> > > > > Anti-Virus, AutoCAD LT 97...), but they does not seem
to affect to
> > > > programs
> > > > > like Office 97.
> > > > > There has been also loss of documents with Office 97 at
these
> > > situations,
> > > > > when the program cannot save the file(anywhere
anymore).
> > > > > I have not heard any problems with Windows NT4 or 2000
clients
> > allthough
> > > > in
> > > > > the web many have told there ar same kind of problems
also with
> these
> > > > > clients.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hannu Virtanen
> > > > >
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Marian,
I mean that i have started from default settings and tried all off these
with no help. IRIX has maintenance and feature modes for operating system.
Only feature mode supports kernel oplocks and i have maintenance
mode and kernel oplocks are not supported so it is same to have them off or
on(on gives very many messages to log-file and this is the reason to have
kernel oplocks = no at this time. I am now trying these parameters at share
level(but i do not understand the difference;i will put all to defaults at
global section and start with oplocks=no at share level or veto oplock
files). To change oplock break wait time was an advice in web and said to
help to these kind of problems with Office 97(10 is also old default
allthough 0 is default for 2.2.6). We have mostly b and c versions of
windows 95 and by experiment errors concerns more Windows 95b version(i do
not know any service packs to go to Windows 95c at all 95 machines).
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <mm@tsmp.sk>
To: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
Cc: <samba@samba.org>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in
Samba
> 2.0.7
> I dont understand what defaults you mean
> i use smaba 2.2.6 and its default is
> level2 oplocks = Yes
> kernel oplocks = Yes            (this two is autodetect by samba and
kernel
> support by samba docs IRIX have this but you have set NO???)
> oplock break wait time = 0    (samba docs write not change this
> parameter...)
>
> you have
> level2 oplocks = no
> kernel oplocks = no
> oplock break wait time = 10
> this your setings is default by your system or set in your conf file?
>
> By docs oplocks is share parameter that must by defined in share not
global.
> best choice is try use veto oplock files= ... and leave oplocks on.
>
> And last what version of W95 you use? W95 W95a W95B ?
> If W95 then you must update to W95a by service pack from microsoft www.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> To: <samba@samba.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in
Samba
> > 2.0.7
>
>
> > Marian,
> > All of those are default settings and have been tested not to help.
But
> why
> > can i not put oplocks = no, what is standard advice with these kind of
> > problems.
> >
> > Hannu
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <mm@tsmp.sk>
> > To: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> > Cc: <samba@samba.org>
> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in
> Samba
> > > 2.0.7
> >
> >
> > > Try set this
> > >
> > > level2 oplocks = Yes
> > > kernel oplocks = Yes
> > >
> > > only experimentally.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> > > To: <samba@samba.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:34 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows
95 in
> > Samba
> > > > 2.0.7
> > >
> > >
> > > > Marian,
> > > > Thank for You response. Here is my smb.conf:
> > > >
> > > > Load smb config files from /usr/samba/lib/smb.conf
> > > > Processing section "[homes]"
> > > > Processing section "[printers]"
> > > > Processing section "[nem]"
> > > > Processing section "[ohj]"
> > > > Processing section "[proj]"
> > > > Processing section "[print$]"
> > > > Processing section "[nemadmin]"
> > > > Loaded services file OK.
> > > > # Global parameters
> > > > [global]
> > > >         coding system > > > >         client
code page = 850
> > > >         code page directory = /usr/samba/lib/codepages
> > > >         workgroup = SAMBA
> > > >         netbios name > > > >         netbios
aliases > > > >         netbios scope > > > >        
server string = Samba 2.2.6
> > > >         interfaces > > > >         bind
interfaces only = No
> > > >         security = USER
> > > >         encrypt passwords = Yes
> > > >         update encrypted = No
> > > >         allow trusted domains = Yes
> > > >         hosts equiv > > > >         min passwd
length = 5
> > > >         map to guest = Never
> > > >         null passwords = No
> > > >         obey pam restrictions = No
> > > >         password server > > > >         smb
passwd file = /usr/samba/private/smbpasswd
> > > >         root directory > > > >         pam
password change = No
> > > >         passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
> > > >         passwd chat = *ew*password:* %n\n
*e-enter*new*password:*
%n\n
> > > >         passwd chat debug = No
> > > >         username map > > > >         password
level = 0
> > > >         username level = 0
> > > >         unix password sync = No
> > > >         restrict anonymous = No
> > > >         lanman auth = Yes
> > > >         use rhosts = No
> > > >         admin log = No
> > > >         log level = 0
> > > >         syslog = 1
> > > >         syslog only = No
> > > >         log file > > > >         max log size =
50
> > > >         timestamp logs = Yes
> > > >         debug hires timestamp = No
> > > >         debug pid = No
> > > >         debug uid = No
> > > >         protocol = NT1
> > > >         large readwrite = Yes
> > > >         max protocol = NT1
> > > >         min protocol = CORE
> > > >         read bmpx = No
> > > >         read raw = Yes
> > > >         write raw = Yes
> > > >         nt smb support = Yes
> > > >         nt pipe support = Yes
> > > >         nt status support = Yes
> > > >         announce version = 4.9
> > > >         announce as = NT
> > > >         max mux = 50
> > > >         max xmit = 16644
> > > >         name resolve order = lmhosts host wins bcast
> > > >         max ttl = 259200
> > > >         max wins ttl = 518400
> > > >         min wins ttl = 21600
> > > >         time server = No
> > > >         unix extensions = No
> > > >         change notify timeout = 60
> > > >         deadtime = 15
> > > >         getwd cache = Yes
> > > >         keepalive = 300
> > > >         lpq cache time = 10
> > > >         max smbd processes = 0
> > > >         max disk size = 0
> > > >         max open files = 10000
> > > >         name cache timeout = 660
> > > >         read size = 16384
> > > >         socket options = TCP_NODELAY
> > > >         stat cache size = 50
> > > >         use mmap = Yes
> > > >         total print jobs = 0
> > > >         load printers = Yes
> > > >         printcap name = /etc/printcap
> > > >         disable spoolss = No
> > > >         enumports command > > > >        
addprinter command > > > >         deleteprinter command > >
> >         show add printer wizard = Yes
> > > >         os2 driver map > > > >         strip dot
= No
> > > >         mangling method = hash
> > > >         character set > > > >         mangled
stack = 50
> > > >         stat cache = Yes
> > > >         domain admin group > > > >        
domain guest group > > > >         machine password timeout = 604800
> > > >         add user script > > > >         delete
user script > > > >         logon script > > > >        
logon path = \\%N\%U\profile
> > > >         logon drive > > > >         logon home =
\\%N\%U
> > > >         domain logons = No
> > > >         os level = 65
> > > >         lm announce = Auto
> > > >         lm interval = 60
> > > >         preferred master = Yes
> > > >         local master = Yes
> > > >         domain master = Yes
> > > >         browse list = Yes
> > > >         enhanced browsing = Yes
> > > >         dns proxy = Yes
> > > >         wins proxy = No
> > > >         wins server > > > >         wins support
= Yes
> > > >         wins hook > > > >         kernel oplocks
= No
> > > >         lock spin count = 3
> > > >         lock spin time = 10
> > > >         oplock break wait time = 10
> > > >         add share command > > > >         change
share command > > > >         delete share command > > >
>         config file > > > >         preload > > > >
lock dir = /usr/samba/var/locks
> > > >         pid directory = /usr/samba/var/locks
> > > >         default service > > > >         message
command > > > >         dfree command > > > >        
valid chars > > > >         remote announce > > > >     
remote browse sync > > > >         socket address = 0.0.0.0
> > > >         homedir map > > > >         time offset
= 0
> > > >         NIS homedir = No
> > > >         source environment > > > >         panic
action > > > >         hide local users = No
> > > >         winbind uid > > > >         winbind gid
> > > >         template homedir = /home/%D/%U
> > > >         template shell = /bin/false
> > > >         winbind separator = \
> > > >         winbind cache time = 15
> > > >         winbind enum users = Yes
> > > >         winbind enum groups = Yes
> > > >         winbind use default domain = No
> > > >         comment = Samba %v
> > > >         path > > > >         alternate
permissions = No
> > > >         username > > > >         guest account =
nobody
> > > >         invalid users > > > >         valid
users > > > >         admin users > > > >         read
list > > > >         write list > > > >         printer
admin = hkv
> > > >         force user > > > >         force group
> > > >         read only = Yes
> > > >         create mask = 0744
> > > >         force create mode = 00
> > > >         security mask = 0777
> > > >         force security mode = 00
> > > >         directory mask = 0755
> > > >         force directory mode = 00
> > > >         directory security mask = 0777
> > > >         force directory security mode = 00
> > > >         force unknown acl user = 00
> > > >         inherit permissions = No
> > > >         inherit acls = No
> > > >         guest only = No
> > > >         guest ok = No
> > > >         only user = No
> > > >         hosts allow = 193.94.63. 193.66.15.38
> > > >         hosts deny > > > >         status = Yes
> > > >         nt acl support = Yes
> > > >         profile acls = No
> > > >         block size = 1024
> > > >         max connections = 0
> > > >         min print space = 0
> > > >         strict allocate = No
> > > >         strict sync = No
> > > >         sync always = No
> > > >         write cache size = 0
> > > >         max print jobs = 1000
> > > >         printable = No
> > > >         postscript = No
> > > >         printing = bsd
> > > >         print command = /usr/bsd/lpr -r -h -P%p %s
> > > >         lpq command = /usr/bsd/lpq -P%p
> > > >         lprm command = /usr/bsd/lprm -P%p %j
> > > >         lppause command > > > >         lpresume
command > > > >         queuepause command = disable %p
> > > >         queueresume command = enable %p
> > > >         printer name > > > >         use client
driver = No
> > > >         default devmode = No
> > > >         printer driver > > > >         printer
driver file = /usr/samba/lib/printers.def
> > > >         printer driver location > > > >        
default case = lower
> > > >         case sensitive = No
> > > >         preserve case = Yes
> > > >         short preserve case = Yes
> > > >         mangle case = No
> > > >         mangling char = ~
> > > >         hide dot files = Yes
> > > >         hide unreadable = No
> > > >         delete veto files = No
> > > >         veto files > > > >         hide files
> > > >         veto oplock files > > > >         map
system = No
> > > >         map hidden = No
> > > >         map archive = Yes
> > > >         mangled names = Yes
> > > >         mangled map > > > >         browseable =
Yes
> > > >         blocking locks = Yes
> > > >         csc policy = manual
> > > >         fake oplocks = No
> > > >         locking = Yes
> > > >         oplocks = Yes
> > > >         level2 oplocks = No
> > > >         oplock contention limit = 2
> > > >         posix locking = Yes
> > > >         strict locking = No
> > > >         share modes = Yes
> > > >         copy > > > >         include > >
> >         exec > > > >         preexec close = No
> > > >         postexec > > > >         root preexec
> > > >         root preexec close = No
> > > >         root postexec > > > >         available
= Yes
> > > >         volume > > > >         fstype = NTFS
> > > >         set directory = No
> > > >         wide links = Yes
> > > >         follow symlinks = Yes
> > > >         dont descend > > > >         magic
script > > > >         magic output > > > >        
delete readonly = No
> > > >         dos filemode = No
> > > >         dos filetimes = No
> > > >         dos filetime resolution = No
> > > >         fake directory create times = No
> > > >         vfs object > > > >         vfs options
> > > >
> > > > [homes]
> > > >         comment = Home Directories
> > > >         valid users = hkv jyrri
> > > >         read only = No
> > > >         browseable = No
> > > >
> > > > [printers]
> > > >         comment = All Printers
> > > >         path = /var/spool/samba
> > > >         create mask = 0700
> > > >         guest ok = Yes
> > > >         printable = Yes
> > > >         browseable = No
> > > >
> > > > [nem]
> > > >         comment = Nemetschek Datat
> > > >         path = /usr/nem
> > > >         valid users = nykis1 jaaju kaiju terjo
> > > >         read only = No
> > > >         create mask = 0774
> > > >         directory mask = 0775
> > > >
> > > > [ohj]
> > > >         comment = Ohjelmatiedostot
> > > >         path = /usr/ohj
> > > >         valid users = +user
> > > >         admin users = admin hkv jyrri
> > > >         force group = sys
> > > >         read only = No
> > > >
> > > > [proj]
> > > >         comment = Projektihakemisto
> > > >         path = /usr/proj
> > > >         valid users = +user
> > > >         read only = No
> > > >         create mask = 0774
> > > >         directory mask = 0775
> > > >
> > > > [print$]
> > > >         path = /usr/samba/printer
> > > >         admin users = hkv
> > > >         write list = hkv
> > > >         guest ok = Yes
> > > >
> > > > [nemadmin]
> > > >         comment = Nemetschek Admin
> > > >         path = /usr2/nemadmin
> > > >         valid users = nykis1 jaaju terjo kaiju
> > > >         read only = No
> > > >         create mask = 0774
> > > >         directory mask = 0775
> > > >         browseable = No
> > > >
> > > > The Office documents are in service [proj]. Hopefully Samba
is not
> only
> > > for
> > > > Linux.
> > > >
> > > > Hannu
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <mm@tsmp.sk>
> > > > To: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> > > > Cc: <samba@samba.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:06 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and
Windows 95
in
> > > Samba
> > > > > 2.0.7
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Hannu
> > > > > I mean that yuor problem not is in oplock but you
change from
2.0.7
> to
> > > > > newest platform and more default values of samba conf
is changed
in
> > new
> > > > > version. First you must post to this list your conf
that is reply
of
> > > samba
> > > > > command
> > > > >
> > > > > testparm -s
> > > > >
> > > > > afther this anybody can try help you to solve your
problem.
> > > > > Secondary problem is compatibility of kernels that new
samba is
> > > optimized
> > > > > for linux.
> > > > > Try post more information.
> > > > >  Bye.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> > > > > To: <samba@lists.samba.org>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 9:37 AM
> > > > > Subject: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and
Windows 95 in
> > Samba
> > > >
> > > > > 2.0.7
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have used Samba in SGI IRIX 6.5(now 6.5.11m)
machines from
the
> > SGI
> > > > > > version 2.0.7. We have Windows 95, NT4 and 2000
clients. We had
no
> > > > > problems
> > > > > > with the version 2.0.7 at all. I am looking for
the new
> > > > possibilities(PDC,
> > > > > > BDC and LDAP...) with Samba 2.2.5 and newer. I
installed
samba.org
> > > > version
> > > > > > of Samba 2.2.5 and from that we have had problems
with Office 97
> > > > documents
> > > > > > in Windows 95 machines. Office freezes and cannot
save or create
> new
> > > > > > documents or open existing documents. I searched
for this kind
of
> > > > problems
> > > > > > from the mailing lists and the web and found out
that i am not
the
> > > only
> > > > > one
> > > > > > having problems with oplocks.
> > > > > > Why did i not have problems with 2.0.7, is Windows
95 support
> > > forgotten
> > > > > from
> > > > > > the 2.2.x versions of Samba?
> > > > > > The common advice is to put oplocks = no, but this
i cannot do,
> > > because
> > > > it
> > > > > > means not to use Office 97 from Windows 95
machines(they cannot
> use
> > > any
> > > > > > Office documents from the share or create new ones
at all), why
is
> > > that?
> > > > > > Is there difference in putting oplocks =no at
global or share
> > sections
> > > > on
> > > > > > smb.conf, which kind?
> > > > > > Is there a way of telling the client to not ask
for oplocks, so
> that
> > i
> > > > > could
> > > > > > disable oplocks from Windows 95 machines?
> > > > > > We are now using Samba 2.2.6 with the same
problems as 2.2.5
even
> > > though
> > > > > > there have been discussions of correcting locking
problems from
> > 2.2.5,
> > > > but
> > > > > > if this thing was fine allready in version 2.0.7,
why does Samba
> > have
> > > > this
> > > > > > kind of fundamental problems?
> > > > > > Version 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 have oplock errors also
with other
> > > > > programs(F-Secure
> > > > > > Anti-Virus, AutoCAD LT 97...), but they does not
seem to affect
to
> > > > > programs
> > > > > > like Office 97.
> > > > > > There has been also loss of documents with Office
97 at these
> > > > situations,
> > > > > > when the program cannot save the file(anywhere
anymore).
> > > > > > I have not heard any problems with Windows NT4 or
2000 clients
> > > allthough
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the web many have told there ar same kind of
problems also with
> > these
> > > > > > clients.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hannu Virtanen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
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>
>

Marian,
Now i am sure that this is not working(oplocks=no; veto oplock
files=/*.doc/*.xls/) at all with Windows 95. No, there are "none" at
oplocks
with file locks, when oplocks=no. But, when i put oplocks=no and strict
locking=yes, this seems to work(at this time, have to test more; i do not
know the performance with strict locking). With these settings Excel still
uses oplocks, Word approves "none" for oplocks. I can say this only
for now,
because the problems are not happening all the time only periodically.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <mm@tsmp.sk>
To: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
Cc: <samba@samba.sk>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in
Samba
> 2.0.7
> OK
> when you use smbstatus is oplock active on open files in share with
> oplocks=no?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> To: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <mm@tsmp.sk>
> Cc: <samba@samba.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in
Samba
> > 2.0.7
>
>
> > Marian,
> > I mean that i have started from default settings and tried all off
these
> > with no help. IRIX has maintenance and feature modes for operating
system.
> > Only feature mode supports kernel oplocks and i have maintenance
> > mode and kernel oplocks are not supported so it is same to have them
off
> or
> > on(on gives very many messages to log-file and this is the reason to
have
> > kernel oplocks = no at this time. I am now trying these parameters at
> share
> > level(but i do not understand the difference;i will put all to
defaults
at
> > global section and start with oplocks=no at share level or veto oplock
> > files). To change oplock break wait time was an advice in web and said
to
> > help to these kind of problems with Office 97(10 is also old default
> > allthough 0 is default for 2.2.6). We have mostly b and c versions of
> > windows 95 and by experiment errors concerns more Windows 95b
version(i
do
> > not know any service packs to go to Windows 95c at all 95 machines).
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <mm@tsmp.sk>
> > To: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> > Cc: <samba@samba.org>
> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in
> Samba
> > > 2.0.7
> >
> >
> > > I dont understand what defaults you mean
> > > i use smaba 2.2.6 and its default is
> > > level2 oplocks = Yes
> > > kernel oplocks = Yes            (this two is autodetect by samba
and
> > kernel
> > > support by samba docs IRIX have this but you have set NO???)
> > > oplock break wait time = 0    (samba docs write not change this
> > > parameter...)
> > >
> > > you have
> > > level2 oplocks = no
> > > kernel oplocks = no
> > > oplock break wait time = 10
> > > this your setings is default by your system or set in your conf
file?
> > >
> > > By docs oplocks is share parameter that must by defined in share
not
> > global.
> > > best choice is try use veto oplock files= ... and leave oplocks
on.
> > >
> > > And last what version of W95 you use? W95 W95a W95B ?
> > > If W95 then you must update to W95a by service pack from
microsoft
www.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> > > To: <samba@samba.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:15 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows
95 in
> > Samba
> > > > 2.0.7
> > >
> > >
> > > > Marian,
> > > > All of those are default settings and have been tested not
to help.
> But
> > > why
> > > > can i not put oplocks = no, what is standard advice with
these kind
of
> > > > problems.
> > > >
> > > > Hannu
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <mm@tsmp.sk>
> > > > To: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> > > > Cc: <samba@samba.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:50 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and
Windows 95
in
> > > Samba
> > > > > 2.0.7
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Try set this
> > > > >
> > > > > level2 oplocks = Yes
> > > > > kernel oplocks = Yes
> > > > >
> > > > > only experimentally.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> > > > > To: <samba@samba.org>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:34 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and
Windows 95
> in
> > > > Samba
> > > > > > 2.0.7
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Marian,
> > > > > > Thank for You response. Here is my smb.conf:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Load smb config files from /usr/samba/lib/smb.conf
> > > > > > Processing section "[homes]"
> > > > > > Processing section "[printers]"
> > > > > > Processing section "[nem]"
> > > > > > Processing section "[ohj]"
> > > > > > Processing section "[proj]"
> > > > > > Processing section "[print$]"
> > > > > > Processing section "[nemadmin]"
> > > > > > Loaded services file OK.
> > > > > > # Global parameters
> > > > > > [global]
> > > > > >         coding system > > > > >
>         client code page = 850
> > > > > >         code page directory =
/usr/samba/lib/codepages
> > > > > >         workgroup = SAMBA
> > > > > >         netbios name > > > > > >
netbios aliases > > > > > >         netbios scope > >
> > > >         server string = Samba 2.2.6
> > > > > >         interfaces > > > > > >  
bind interfaces only = No
> > > > > >         security = USER
> > > > > >         encrypt passwords = Yes
> > > > > >         update encrypted = No
> > > > > >         allow trusted domains = Yes
> > > > > >         hosts equiv > > > > > > 
min passwd length = 5
> > > > > >         map to guest = Never
> > > > > >         null passwords = No
> > > > > >         obey pam restrictions = No
> > > > > >         password server > > > > >
>         smb passwd file = /usr/samba/private/smbpasswd
> > > > > >         root directory > > > > >
>         pam password change = No
> > > > > >         passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
> > > > > >         passwd chat = *ew*password:* %n\n
*e-enter*new*password:*
> > %n\n
> > > > > >         passwd chat debug = No
> > > > > >         username map > > > > > >
password level = 0
> > > > > >         username level = 0
> > > > > >         unix password sync = No
> > > > > >         restrict anonymous = No
> > > > > >         lanman auth = Yes
> > > > > >         use rhosts = No
> > > > > >         admin log = No
> > > > > >         log level = 0
> > > > > >         syslog = 1
> > > > > >         syslog only = No
> > > > > >         log file > > > > > >    
max log size = 50
> > > > > >         timestamp logs = Yes
> > > > > >         debug hires timestamp = No
> > > > > >         debug pid = No
> > > > > >         debug uid = No
> > > > > >         protocol = NT1
> > > > > >         large readwrite = Yes
> > > > > >         max protocol = NT1
> > > > > >         min protocol = CORE
> > > > > >         read bmpx = No
> > > > > >         read raw = Yes
> > > > > >         write raw = Yes
> > > > > >         nt smb support = Yes
> > > > > >         nt pipe support = Yes
> > > > > >         nt status support = Yes
> > > > > >         announce version = 4.9
> > > > > >         announce as = NT
> > > > > >         max mux = 50
> > > > > >         max xmit = 16644
> > > > > >         name resolve order = lmhosts host wins
bcast
> > > > > >         max ttl = 259200
> > > > > >         max wins ttl = 518400
> > > > > >         min wins ttl = 21600
> > > > > >         time server = No
> > > > > >         unix extensions = No
> > > > > >         change notify timeout = 60
> > > > > >         deadtime = 15
> > > > > >         getwd cache = Yes
> > > > > >         keepalive = 300
> > > > > >         lpq cache time = 10
> > > > > >         max smbd processes = 0
> > > > > >         max disk size = 0
> > > > > >         max open files = 10000
> > > > > >         name cache timeout = 660
> > > > > >         read size = 16384
> > > > > >         socket options = TCP_NODELAY
> > > > > >         stat cache size = 50
> > > > > >         use mmap = Yes
> > > > > >         total print jobs = 0
> > > > > >         load printers = Yes
> > > > > >         printcap name = /etc/printcap
> > > > > >         disable spoolss = No
> > > > > >         enumports command > > > > >
>         addprinter command > > > > > >        
deleteprinter command > > > > > >         show add printer
wizard = Yes
> > > > > >         os2 driver map > > > > >
>         strip dot = No
> > > > > >         mangling method = hash
> > > > > >         character set > > > > >
>         mangled stack = 50
> > > > > >         stat cache = Yes
> > > > > >         domain admin group > > > >
> >         domain guest group > > > > > >        
machine password timeout = 604800
> > > > > >         add user script > > > > >
>         delete user script > > > > > >         logon
script > > > > > >         logon path = \\%N\%U\profile
> > > > > >         logon drive > > > > > > 
logon home = \\%N\%U
> > > > > >         domain logons = No
> > > > > >         os level = 65
> > > > > >         lm announce = Auto
> > > > > >         lm interval = 60
> > > > > >         preferred master = Yes
> > > > > >         local master = Yes
> > > > > >         domain master = Yes
> > > > > >         browse list = Yes
> > > > > >         enhanced browsing = Yes
> > > > > >         dns proxy = Yes
> > > > > >         wins proxy = No
> > > > > >         wins server > > > > > > 
wins support = Yes
> > > > > >         wins hook > > > > > >   
kernel oplocks = No
> > > > > >         lock spin count = 3
> > > > > >         lock spin time = 10
> > > > > >         oplock break wait time = 10
> > > > > >         add share command > > > > >
>         change share command > > > > > >         delete
share command > > > > > >         config file > > >
> > >         preload > > > > > >         lock dir =
/usr/samba/var/locks
> > > > > >         pid directory = /usr/samba/var/locks
> > > > > >         default service > > > > >
>         message command > > > > > >         dfree command
> > > > > >         valid chars > > > > > > 
remote announce > > > > > >         remote browse sync >
> > > > >         socket address = 0.0.0.0
> > > > > >         homedir map > > > > > > 
time offset = 0
> > > > > >         NIS homedir = No
> > > > > >         source environment > > > >
> >         panic action > > > > > >         hide local
users = No
> > > > > >         winbind uid > > > > > > 
winbind gid > > > > > >         template homedir = /home/%D/%U
> > > > > >         template shell = /bin/false
> > > > > >         winbind separator = \
> > > > > >         winbind cache time = 15
> > > > > >         winbind enum users = Yes
> > > > > >         winbind enum groups = Yes
> > > > > >         winbind use default domain = No
> > > > > >         comment = Samba %v
> > > > > >         path > > > > > >        
alternate permissions = No
> > > > > >         username > > > > > >    
guest account = nobody
> > > > > >         invalid users > > > > >
>         valid users > > > > > >         admin users >
> > > > >         read list > > > > > >        
write list > > > > > >         printer admin = hkv
> > > > > >         force user > > > > > >  
force group > > > > > >         read only = Yes
> > > > > >         create mask = 0744
> > > > > >         force create mode = 00
> > > > > >         security mask = 0777
> > > > > >         force security mode = 00
> > > > > >         directory mask = 0755
> > > > > >         force directory mode = 00
> > > > > >         directory security mask = 0777
> > > > > >         force directory security mode = 00
> > > > > >         force unknown acl user = 00
> > > > > >         inherit permissions = No
> > > > > >         inherit acls = No
> > > > > >         guest only = No
> > > > > >         guest ok = No
> > > > > >         only user = No
> > > > > >         hosts allow = 193.94.63. 193.66.15.38
> > > > > >         hosts deny > > > > > >  
status = Yes
> > > > > >         nt acl support = Yes
> > > > > >         profile acls = No
> > > > > >         block size = 1024
> > > > > >         max connections = 0
> > > > > >         min print space = 0
> > > > > >         strict allocate = No
> > > > > >         strict sync = No
> > > > > >         sync always = No
> > > > > >         write cache size = 0
> > > > > >         max print jobs = 1000
> > > > > >         printable = No
> > > > > >         postscript = No
> > > > > >         printing = bsd
> > > > > >         print command = /usr/bsd/lpr -r -h -P%p %s
> > > > > >         lpq command = /usr/bsd/lpq -P%p
> > > > > >         lprm command = /usr/bsd/lprm -P%p %j
> > > > > >         lppause command > > > > >
>         lpresume command > > > > > >         queuepause
command = disable %p
> > > > > >         queueresume command = enable %p
> > > > > >         printer name > > > > > >
use client driver = No
> > > > > >         default devmode = No
> > > > > >         printer driver > > > > >
>         printer driver file = /usr/samba/lib/printers.def
> > > > > >         printer driver location > > >
> > >         default case = lower
> > > > > >         case sensitive = No
> > > > > >         preserve case = Yes
> > > > > >         short preserve case = Yes
> > > > > >         mangle case = No
> > > > > >         mangling char = ~
> > > > > >         hide dot files = Yes
> > > > > >         hide unreadable = No
> > > > > >         delete veto files = No
> > > > > >         veto files > > > > > >  
hide files > > > > > >         veto oplock files > >
> > > >         map system = No
> > > > > >         map hidden = No
> > > > > >         map archive = Yes
> > > > > >         mangled names = Yes
> > > > > >         mangled map > > > > > > 
browseable = Yes
> > > > > >         blocking locks = Yes
> > > > > >         csc policy = manual
> > > > > >         fake oplocks = No
> > > > > >         locking = Yes
> > > > > >         oplocks = Yes
> > > > > >         level2 oplocks = No
> > > > > >         oplock contention limit = 2
> > > > > >         posix locking = Yes
> > > > > >         strict locking = No
> > > > > >         share modes = Yes
> > > > > >         copy > > > > > >        
include > > > > > >         exec > > > > > >
preexec close = No
> > > > > >         postexec > > > > > >    
root preexec > > > > > >         root preexec close = No
> > > > > >         root postexec > > > > >
>         available = Yes
> > > > > >         volume > > > > > >      
fstype = NTFS
> > > > > >         set directory = No
> > > > > >         wide links = Yes
> > > > > >         follow symlinks = Yes
> > > > > >         dont descend > > > > > >
magic script > > > > > >         magic output > > >
> > >         delete readonly = No
> > > > > >         dos filemode = No
> > > > > >         dos filetimes = No
> > > > > >         dos filetime resolution = No
> > > > > >         fake directory create times = No
> > > > > >         vfs object > > > > > >  
vfs options > > > > > >
> > > > > > [homes]
> > > > > >         comment = Home Directories
> > > > > >         valid users = hkv jyrri
> > > > > >         read only = No
> > > > > >         browseable = No
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [printers]
> > > > > >         comment = All Printers
> > > > > >         path = /var/spool/samba
> > > > > >         create mask = 0700
> > > > > >         guest ok = Yes
> > > > > >         printable = Yes
> > > > > >         browseable = No
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [nem]
> > > > > >         comment = Nemetschek Datat
> > > > > >         path = /usr/nem
> > > > > >         valid users = nykis1 jaaju kaiju terjo
> > > > > >         read only = No
> > > > > >         create mask = 0774
> > > > > >         directory mask = 0775
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [ohj]
> > > > > >         comment = Ohjelmatiedostot
> > > > > >         path = /usr/ohj
> > > > > >         valid users = +user
> > > > > >         admin users = admin hkv jyrri
> > > > > >         force group = sys
> > > > > >         read only = No
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [proj]
> > > > > >         comment = Projektihakemisto
> > > > > >         path = /usr/proj
> > > > > >         valid users = +user
> > > > > >         read only = No
> > > > > >         create mask = 0774
> > > > > >         directory mask = 0775
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [print$]
> > > > > >         path = /usr/samba/printer
> > > > > >         admin users = hkv
> > > > > >         write list = hkv
> > > > > >         guest ok = Yes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [nemadmin]
> > > > > >         comment = Nemetschek Admin
> > > > > >         path = /usr2/nemadmin
> > > > > >         valid users = nykis1 jaaju terjo kaiju
> > > > > >         read only = No
> > > > > >         create mask = 0774
> > > > > >         directory mask = 0775
> > > > > >         browseable = No
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Office documents are in service [proj].
Hopefully Samba is
not
> > > only
> > > > > for
> > > > > > Linux.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hannu
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing"
<mm@tsmp.sk>
> > > > > > To: "Hannu Virtanen" <hkv@ipso.fi>
> > > > > > Cc: <samba@samba.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:06 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office
97 and Windows
95
> > in
> > > > > Samba
> > > > > > > 2.0.7
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Hannu
> > > > > > > I mean that yuor problem not is in oplock but
you change from
> > 2.0.7
> > > to
> > > > > > > newest platform and more default values of
samba conf is
changed
> > in
> > > > new
> > > > > > > version. First you must post to this list
your conf that is
> reply
> > of
> > > > > samba
> > > > > > > command
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > testparm -s
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > afther this anybody can try help you to solve
your problem.
> > > > > > > Secondary problem is compatibility of kernels
that new samba
is
> > > > > optimized
> > > > > > > for linux.
> > > > > > > Try post more information.
> > > > > > >  Bye.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Hannu Virtanen"
<hkv@ipso.fi>
> > > > > > > To: <samba@lists.samba.org>
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 9:37 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office
97 and Windows 95
> in
> > > > Samba
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2.0.7
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We have used Samba in SGI IRIX 6.5(now
6.5.11m) machines
from
> > the
> > > > SGI
> > > > > > > > version 2.0.7. We have Windows 95, NT4
and 2000 clients. We
> had
> > no
> > > > > > > problems
> > > > > > > > with the version 2.0.7 at all. I am
looking for the new
> > > > > > possibilities(PDC,
> > > > > > > > BDC and LDAP...) with Samba 2.2.5 and
newer. I installed
> > samba.org
> > > > > > version
> > > > > > > > of Samba 2.2.5 and from that we have had
problems with
Office
> 97
> > > > > > documents
> > > > > > > > in Windows 95 machines. Office freezes
and cannot save or
> create
> > > new
> > > > > > > > documents or open existing documents. I
searched for this
kind
> > of
> > > > > > problems
> > > > > > > > from the mailing lists and the web and
found out that i am
not
> > the
> > > > > only
> > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > having problems with oplocks.
> > > > > > > > Why did i not have problems with 2.0.7,
is Windows 95
support
> > > > > forgotten
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > the 2.2.x versions of Samba?
> > > > > > > > The common advice is to put oplocks =
no, but this i cannot
> do,
> > > > > because
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > means not to use Office 97 from Windows
95 machines(they
> cannot
> > > use
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > > Office documents from the share or
create new ones at all),
> why
> > is
> > > > > that?
> > > > > > > > Is there difference in putting oplocks
=no at global or
share
> > > > sections
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > smb.conf, which kind?
> > > > > > > > Is there a way of telling the client to
not ask for oplocks,
> so
> > > that
> > > > i
> > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > disable oplocks from Windows 95
machines?
> > > > > > > > We are now using Samba 2.2.6 with the
same problems as 2.2.5
> > even
> > > > > though
> > > > > > > > there have been discussions of
correcting locking problems
> from
> > > > 2.2.5,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > if this thing was fine allready in
version 2.0.7, why does
> Samba
> > > > have
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > kind of fundamental problems?
> > > > > > > > Version 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 have oplock
errors also with other
> > > > > > > programs(F-Secure
> > > > > > > > Anti-Virus, AutoCAD LT 97...), but they
does not seem to
> affect
> > to
> > > > > > > programs
> > > > > > > > like Office 97.
> > > > > > > > There has been also loss of documents
with Office 97 at
these
> > > > > > situations,
> > > > > > > > when the program cannot save the
file(anywhere anymore).
> > > > > > > > I have not heard any problems with
Windows NT4 or 2000
clients
> > > > > allthough
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > the web many have told there ar same
kind of problems also
> with
> > > > these
> > > > > > > > clients.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hannu Virtanen
> > > > > > > >
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