Jay Milk
2004-Sep-23 10:10 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] GSM phones, bluetooth and general happiness
When I installed my first home-PBX three years ago, I was looking at "cellsockets" -- devices which will accept certain cellular phones and provide an RJ11 jack, generating the ring-voltage and recognizing DTMF, which in turn makes your cell-phone look like a CO line. Pretty cool stuff, in theory, but it just didn't seem to be worth the cost, especially since it locks you to a particular cell-phone. Since then, I've moved to Asterisk. I looked at at cell-sockets again recently, but they haven't really gotten any cheaper... And on top of that, I'd now require a precious FXO interface for *. I looked at some developer documentation for my particular phone (S/E T610) while connecting it to my PC via Bluetooth. For those who are unaware, all GSM phones have a built-in set of AT modem commands. Not surprisingly, I was able to place calls as well as receive ring-indicators, caller-id information and call-progress information via the virtual serial port that the phone provides over bluetooth. But what's more, I was also able to utilize my PC as a handsfree speakerphone -- and all this over bluetooth. As I see it, all the pieces are available -- we got full phone control, some form of digital audio going back and forth, call-progress reporting. I know there's at least one bluetooth stack for linux, so *technically* we're "there", no? I foresee a chan_blue which allow Asterisk to utilize a bluetooth/GSM cellular phone as a CO line, connecting by nothing more than a $5 bluetooth dongle and 5ft of air. Who's up for the challenge? If there's enough interest in the community, I'll be the first to add a bounty on this -- it would be worth at least $100 to me to have this functionality.
slwatts@winckworths.co.uk
2004-Sep-23 10:32 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] GSM phones, bluetooth and general happiness
Interesting.... We use primicell's (nokia 22's) to break out mobile phone traffic at the office. I know these are more like full blown mobile phones that u plug directly into the pbx but similar idea. Would be cool to have a home version to allow u to get similar functionality by just putting your bluetooth mobile near your asterisk server ;-) ie. Come home, plonk phone down. walk off to another room - girlfriend calls, asterisk picks it up and rings all phones in house... no annoying ear bashing about why I didnt take my mobile with me and when I call her I can do so on my dirt cheap mobile-mobile rate :-) On a similar note - has anyone got asterisk to work with the nokia/sony PCMCIA GSM (or even 3G?) cards? - 3G would open up the Videophone thing through asterisk - sure there is a very good technical reason why that wouldnt work!!! Sam Jay Milk <jay@skimmilk.net> wrote on 23/09/2004 18:10:11:> When I installed my first home-PBX three years ago, I was looking at > "cellsockets" -- devices which will accept certain cellular phones and > provide an RJ11 jack, generating the ring-voltage and recognizing DTMF, > which in turn makes your cell-phone look like a CO line. Pretty cool > stuff, in theory, but it just didn't seem to be worth the cost, > especially since it locks you to a particular cell-phone. > > Since then, I've moved to Asterisk. I looked at at cell-sockets again > recently, but they haven't really gotten any cheaper... And on top of > that, I'd now require a precious FXO interface for *. > > I looked at some developer documentation for my particular phone (S/E > T610) while connecting it to my PC via Bluetooth. For those who are > unaware, all GSM phones have a built-in set of AT modem commands. Not > surprisingly, I was able to place calls as well as receive > ring-indicators, caller-id information and call-progress information via > the virtual serial port that the phone provides over bluetooth. But > what's more, I was also able to utilize my PC as a handsfree > speakerphone -- and all this over bluetooth. > > As I see it, all the pieces are available -- we got full phone control, > some form of digital audio going back and forth, call-progress > reporting. I know there's at least one bluetooth stack for linux, so > *technically* we're "there", no? > > I foresee a chan_blue which allow Asterisk to utilize a bluetooth/GSM > cellular phone as a CO line, connecting by nothing more than a $5 > bluetooth dongle and 5ft of air. > > Who's up for the challenge? If there's enough interest in the > community, I'll be the first to add a bounty on this -- it would be > worth at least $100 to me to have this functionality. > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users-------------- Winckworth Sherwood Solicitors and Parliamentary Agents DX 148400 WESTMINSTER 5 : 35 Great Peter Street, London SW1P 3LR Telephone 020 7593 5000 Fax 020 7593 5099 -Confidentiality- This email message and any attachments are confidential; they may be subject to legal professional privilege and are intended for the named recipient only. If you are not the named recipient, please return the message and enclosures immediately and delete them from your system. -Caution- Before advice received only by email (whether by attachment or otherwise) may be relied on, the authenticity of the communication must be verified by means independent of email. -Regulation- The firm is regulated by the Law Society. -Partners- A list of partners is available for inspection at each office of the firm and on the firm's website at http://www.winckworths.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20040923/fa297fcd/attachment.htm
Joe Antkowiak
2004-Sep-23 10:36 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] GSM phones, bluetooth and general happiness
There are quite a number of positive (for end users) implications of doing this too... just think about all those cell providers that offer unlimited mobile to mobile calls, and then all those unlimited LD packages from landline and voip providers. This has huge potential for people who use their cell phones alot... On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:10:11 -0500, Jay Milk <jay@skimmilk.net> wrote:> When I installed my first home-PBX three years ago, I was looking at > "cellsockets" -- devices which will accept certain cellular phones and > provide an RJ11 jack, generating the ring-voltage and recognizing DTMF, > which in turn makes your cell-phone look like a CO line. Pretty cool > stuff, in theory, but it just didn't seem to be worth the cost, > especially since it locks you to a particular cell-phone. > > Since then, I've moved to Asterisk. I looked at at cell-sockets again > recently, but they haven't really gotten any cheaper... And on top of > that, I'd now require a precious FXO interface for *. > > I looked at some developer documentation for my particular phone (S/E > T610) while connecting it to my PC via Bluetooth. For those who are > unaware, all GSM phones have a built-in set of AT modem commands. Not > surprisingly, I was able to place calls as well as receive > ring-indicators, caller-id information and call-progress information via > the virtual serial port that the phone provides over bluetooth. But > what's more, I was also able to utilize my PC as a handsfree > speakerphone -- and all this over bluetooth. > > As I see it, all the pieces are available -- we got full phone control, > some form of digital audio going back and forth, call-progress > reporting. I know there's at least one bluetooth stack for linux, so > *technically* we're "there", no? > > I foresee a chan_blue which allow Asterisk to utilize a bluetooth/GSM > cellular phone as a CO line, connecting by nothing more than a $5 > bluetooth dongle and 5ft of air. > > Who's up for the challenge? If there's enough interest in the > community, I'll be the first to add a bounty on this -- it would be > worth at least $100 to me to have this functionality. > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >-- ____________ Joe Antkowiak antkojm1 (at) gmail.com
Andy Powell
2004-Sep-23 10:54 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] GSM phones, bluetooth and general happiness
On 23/09/2004 at 13:36 Joe Antkowiak wrote:>There are quite a number of positive (for end users) implications of >doing this too... just think about all those cell providers that >offer unlimited mobile to mobile calls, and then all those unlimited >LD packages from landline and voip providers. This has huge potential >for people who use their cell phones alot... >Not to mention the fact that you wont be microwaving your brain... :D Andy
Chris Lee
2004-Sep-23 11:28 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] GSM phones, bluetooth and general happiness
Joe Antkowiak wrote:> There are quite a number of positive (for end users) implications of > doing this too... just think about all those cell providers that > offer unlimited mobile to mobile calls, and then all those unlimited > LD packages from landline and voip providers. This has huge potential > for people who use their cell phones alot... > >Then make sure the channel allows you to: pool devices, set free minutes on each device,and have preference for devices with remaining free minutes, thus sharing the calls between my phone and that of my wife. An IAX/(sip if it must) softphone with appropriate extensions to work with bluetooth devices could provide a solution without having a Bluetooth dongle in the PABX. Chris.
Mitchel Constantin
2004-Sep-23 22:22 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] GSM phones, bluetooth and general happiness
Our prayers....answered? (http://www.phonelabs.com/prd_blue01.asp) mitchel On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:10:11 -0500, Jay Milk <jay@skimmilk.net> wrote:> When I installed my first home-PBX three years ago, I was looking at > "cellsockets" -- devices which will accept certain cellular phones and > provide an RJ11 jack, generating the ring-voltage and recognizing DTMF, > which in turn makes your cell-phone look like a CO line. Pretty cool > stuff, in theory, but it just didn't seem to be worth the cost, > especially since it locks you to a particular cell-phone. > > Since then, I've moved to Asterisk. I looked at at cell-sockets again > recently, but they haven't really gotten any cheaper... And on top of > that, I'd now require a precious FXO interface for *. > > I looked at some developer documentation for my particular phone (S/E > T610) while connecting it to my PC via Bluetooth. For those who are > unaware, all GSM phones have a built-in set of AT modem commands. Not > surprisingly, I was able to place calls as well as receive > ring-indicators, caller-id information and call-progress information via > the virtual serial port that the phone provides over bluetooth. But > what's more, I was also able to utilize my PC as a handsfree > speakerphone -- and all this over bluetooth. > > As I see it, all the pieces are available -- we got full phone control, > some form of digital audio going back and forth, call-progress > reporting. I know there's at least one bluetooth stack for linux, so > *technically* we're "there", no? > > I foresee a chan_blue which allow Asterisk to utilize a bluetooth/GSM > cellular phone as a CO line, connecting by nothing more than a $5 > bluetooth dongle and 5ft of air. > > Who's up for the challenge? If there's enough interest in the > community, I'll be the first to add a bounty on this -- it would be > worth at least $100 to me to have this functionality. > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >
Nate Carlson
2004-Sep-28 15:56 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] GSM phones, bluetooth and general happiness
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Jay Milk wrote:> Who's up for the challenge? If there's enough interest in the > community, I'll be the first to add a bounty on this -- it would be > worth at least $100 to me to have this functionality.Has anyone updated the bounty page with this yet? I'd also love this feature, and be willing to throw some cash at it. What I'm thinking of is basically what is discussed later - calls can be initiated/answered via the (standardized) AT command set, and then use the BlueTooth headset functionality for voice. I fried my T610 yesterday, so it'd be nice if it'd work with the T68i's (my backup phone) - if not, well, I need to buy a new phone anyways.. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | nate carlson | natecars@natecarlson.com | http://www.natecarlson.com | | depriving some poor village of its idiot since 1981 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nate Carlson
2004-Sep-29 14:38 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] GSM phones, bluetooth and general happiness
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Jay Milk wrote:> I'll be the first to add a bounty on this -- it would be worth at least > $100 to me to have this functionality.I've added $50, and posted an 'official' bounty. Bounty is at: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+bounty+bluetooth+cell-phone+support Feel free to update. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | nate carlson | natecars@natecarlson.com | http://www.natecarlson.com | | depriving some poor village of its idiot since 1981 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------
slwatts@winckworths.co.uk
2004-Sep-30 00:30 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] GSM phones, bluetooth and general happiness
you can get network bluetooth access points, not too sure of the profiles they present tho. We did have one here for a while - will try and dig it out of the pile of rubbish in the corner and take a look if I get time! How about a bluetooth proxy agent that sits on a linux box/laptop in the main office area - or just another asterisk box sat in the office area? Sam Nick Barnes <nick@bcn-it.co.uk> wrote on 30/09/2004 07:15:45:> Nate Carlson: > > I've added $50, and posted an 'official' bounty. > > And I've added my potential contribution too. > > Just a thought though - the places where this would be really usefulwould> be in offices where the * box is in a comms room somewhere. What's thebest> way of picking up a bluetooth signal anywhere in the office? Is theresome> sort of standard for BT amplification, bridging, relaying (or whateverthe> terminology is) etc.? > > Nick Barnes > Senior Consultant. > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users-------------- Winckworth Sherwood Solicitors and Parliamentary Agents DX 148400 WESTMINSTER 5 : 35 Great Peter Street, London SW1P 3LR Telephone 020 7593 5000 Fax 020 7593 5099 -Confidentiality- This email message and any attachments are confidential; they may be subject to legal professional privilege and are intended for the named recipient only. If you are not the named recipient, please return the message and enclosures immediately and delete them from your system. -Caution- Before advice received only by email (whether by attachment or otherwise) may be relied on, the authenticity of the communication must be verified by means independent of email. -Regulation- The firm is regulated by the Law Society. -Partners- A list of partners is available for inspection at each office of the firm and on the firm's website at http://www.winckworths.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20040930/373ff78a/attachment.htm