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Jun Shen

2009-Aug-19 21:33 UTC

[R] Contrasts within ANOVA frame (Repost)

Would like to try my luck to see if I can catch your eyes.

I was trying to do some contrasts within ANOVA. I searched the archive and
found a clue posted by Steffen Katzner
( http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/help/06/01/19385.html)

I have three levels for a factor names "StdLot" and want to make three
comparisons, 1 vs 2, 1 vs 3 and 2 vs 3.

First,
contrasts(d3$StdLot,3)<-matrix(c(1,-1, 0,0,1,-1,1,0,-1),3,3)   #d3 is the
data set. set up the contrast matrix

Second,
aov(Bkg~StdLot,na.rm=T,data=d3,contrasts=contrasts(d3$StdLot))->mod.aov
#ANOVA,

Finally,
summary(mod.aov,split=list(StdLot=list('1 vs 2'=1,'2 vs
3'=2,'1 vs 3'=3)))
#comparison summary

Here is the final result I got, the third comparison is missing. Does anyone
have any idea what is wrong here? If I change the order of the comparisons
it's always the third one missing.  So I guess it's not due to the data.
Appreciate any comment.

                  Df Sum Sq Mean Sq F value    Pr(>F)
StdLot             2  1.905   0.953 10.3769 3.710e-05 ***
  StdLot: 1 vs 2   1  0.223   0.223  2.4239    0.1200
  StdLot: 2 vs 3   1  1.683   1.683 18.3299 2.162e-05 ***
  StdLot: 1 vs 3   1
Residuals        601 55.173   0.092
---
Signif. codes:  0 ‘***’ 0.001 ‘**’ 0.01 ‘*’ 0.05 ‘.’ 0.1 ‘ ’ 1
2 observations deleted due to missingness


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Mark Difford

2009-Aug-20 08:24 UTC

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Hi Jun,
>> I have three levels for a factor names "StdLot" and want to
make three
>> comparisons, 1 vs 2, 1 vs 3 and 2 vs 3.
With only three levels to your factor, the contrast matrix you are
specifying is over-parametrized (i.e. over-specified): it has 3 rows and 3
columns.

## Look at the default behaviour
contrasts(d3$StdLot) <- NULL
contrasts(d3$StdLot)

contrasts(d3$StdLot) <- contr.helmert
contrasts(d3$StdLot)

I think what you really want are linear contrasts, which you will find in
package car (?linear.hypothesis), in gmodels (?estimable) [based on Frank
Harrell's approach; so look at his package Design], and package multcomp,
amongst others.

Regards, Mark.


Jun Shen-3 wrote:> 
> Would like to try my luck to see if I can catch your eyes.
> 
> I was trying to do some contrasts within ANOVA. I searched the archive and
> found a clue posted by Steffen Katzner
> ( http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/help/06/01/19385.html)
> 
> I have three levels for a factor names "StdLot" and want to make
three
> comparisons, 1 vs 2, 1 vs 3 and 2 vs 3.
> 
> First,
> contrasts(d3$StdLot,3)<-matrix(c(1,-1, 0,0,1,-1,1,0,-1),3,3)   #d3 is
the
> data set. set up the contrast matrix
> 
> Second,
> aov(Bkg~StdLot,na.rm=T,data=d3,contrasts=contrasts(d3$StdLot))->mod.aov
> #ANOVA,
> 
> Finally,
> summary(mod.aov,split=list(StdLot=list('1 vs 2'=1,'2 vs
3'=2,'1 vs 3'=3)))
> #comparison summary
> 
> Here is the final result I got, the third comparison is missing. Does
> anyone
> have any idea what is wrong here? If I change the order of the comparisons
> it's always the third one missing.  So I guess it's not due to the
data.
> Appreciate any comment.
> 
>                   Df Sum Sq Mean Sq F value    Pr(>F)
> StdLot             2  1.905   0.953 10.3769 3.710e-05 ***
>   StdLot: 1 vs 2   1  0.223   0.223  2.4239    0.1200
>   StdLot: 2 vs 3   1  1.683   1.683 18.3299 2.162e-05 ***
>   StdLot: 1 vs 3   1
> Residuals        601 55.173   0.092
> ---
> Signif. codes:  0 ?***? 0.001 ?**? 0.01 ?*? 0.05 ?.? 0.1 ? ? 1
> 2 observations deleted due to missingness
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jun Shen PhD
> PK/PD Scientist
> BioPharma Services
> Millipore Corporation
> 15 Research Park Dr.
> St Charles, MO 63304
> Direct: 636-720-1589
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JLucke at ria.buffalo.edu

2009-Aug-20 13:55 UTC

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Dr Shen

Even though you pose 3 contrasts, there are only 2 degrees of freedom as 
the 3rd contrast is the sum of the first two.  Your aov output states this 
as StdLot has only 2 df.  Having used up your df, the aov has nothing to 
report.

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Would like to try my luck to see if I can catch your eyes.

I was trying to do some contrasts within ANOVA. I searched the archive and
found a clue posted by Steffen Katzner
( http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/help/06/01/19385.html)

I have three levels for a factor names "StdLot" and want to make three
comparisons, 1 vs 2, 1 vs 3 and 2 vs 3.

First,
contrasts(d3$StdLot,3)<-matrix(c(1,-1, 0,0,1,-1,1,0,-1),3,3)   #d3 is the
data set. set up the contrast matrix

Second,
aov(Bkg~StdLot,na.rm=T,data=d3,contrasts=contrasts(d3$StdLot))->mod.aov
#ANOVA,

Finally,
summary(mod.aov,split=list(StdLot=list('1 vs 2'=1,'2 vs
3'=2,'1 vs 3'=3)))
#comparison summary

Here is the final result I got, the third comparison is missing. Does 
anyone
have any idea what is wrong here? If I change the order of the comparisons
it's always the third one missing.  So I guess it's not due to the data.
Appreciate any comment.

                  Df Sum Sq Mean Sq F value    Pr(>F)
StdLot             2  1.905   0.953 10.3769 3.710e-05 ***
  StdLot: 1 vs 2   1  0.223   0.223  2.4239    0.1200
  StdLot: 2 vs 3   1  1.683   1.683 18.3299 2.162e-05 ***
  StdLot: 1 vs 3   1
Residuals        601 55.173   0.092
---
Signif. codes:  0 ‘***’ 0.001 ‘**’ 0.01 ‘*’ 0.05 ‘.’ 0.1 ‘ ’ 1
2 observations deleted due to missingness


-- 
Jun Shen PhD
PK/PD Scientist
BioPharma Services
Millipore Corporation
15 Research Park Dr.
St Charles, MO 63304
Direct: 636-720-1589

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