zfs discuss - Apr 2010 - getconf test for case insensitive ZFS?

Can I use getconf to test if a ZFS file system is mounted in case
insensitive mode?

Olga
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root at urd:~# zfs get casesensitivity dpool/test
NAME        PROPERTY         VALUE        SOURCE
dpool/test  casesensitivity  sensitive    -

this seems to be settable only by create, not later. See man zfs for more info

Best regards

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----- "????? ????????????" <olga.kryzhanovska at gmail.com>
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> Can I use getconf to test if a ZFS file system is mounted in case
> insensitive mode?
> 
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:54:02 +0200 =?KOI8-R?B?z8zYx8Egy9LZ1sHOz9fTy8HR?=
wrote:
> Can I use getconf to test if a ZFS file system is mounted in case
> insensitive mode?
we would have to put in the zfs query (hopefull more generic that just for zfs)
the only current working case-insensitive checks are for uwin

There is no way in the SUS standard to determinate if a file system is
case insensitive, i.e. with pathconf?

Olga

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Glenn Fowler <gsf at research.att.com>
wrote:
>
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:54:02 +0200 =?KOI8-R?B?z8zYx8Egy9LZ1sHOz9fTy8HR?=
wrote:
>> Can I use getconf to test if a ZFS file system is mounted in case
>> insensitive mode?
>
> we would have to put in the zfs query (hopefull more generic that just for
zfs)
> the only current working case-insensitive checks are for uwin
>
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Roy, I was looking for a C API which works for all types of file
systems, including ZFS, CIFS, PCFS and others.

Olga

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk <roy at
karlsbakk.net> wrote:
> root at urd:~# zfs get casesensitivity dpool/test
> NAME        PROPERTY         VALUE        SOURCE
> dpool/test  casesensitivity  sensitive    -
>
> this seems to be settable only by create, not later. See man zfs for more
info
>
> Best regards
>
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> ----- "????? ????????????" <olga.kryzhanovska at gmail.com>
skrev:
>
>> Can I use getconf to test if a ZFS file system is mounted in case
>> insensitive mode?
>>
>> Olga
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????? ???????????? <olga.kryzhanovska at gmail.com> wrote:
> There is no way in the SUS standard to determinate if a file system is
> case insensitive, i.e. with pathconf?
SUS requires a case sensitive filesystem.

There is no need to request this from a POSIX view....

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On 04/14/10 11:48 AM, Glenn Fowler wrote:
>
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:54:02 +0200 =?KOI8-R?B?z8zYx8Egy9LZ1sHOz9fTy8HR?=
wrote:
>> Can I use getconf to test if a ZFS file system is mounted in case
>> insensitive mode?
>
> we would have to put in the zfs query (hopefull more generic that just for
zfs)
> the only current working case-insensitive checks are for uwin
>
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> zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org
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There is a pathconf(2) check described in the
documentation for the case-insensitive behavior ARC case

http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2007/244/spec.txt

Not sure why it''s not in the man page...

-tim

/usr/bin/getconf _PC_CASE_BEHAVIOR /tmp
getconf: Invalid argument (_PC_CASE_BEHAVIOR)

I''m sure this is a bug, right?

Olga

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Tim Haley <tim.haley at oracle.com>
wrote:
> On 04/14/10 11:48 AM, Glenn Fowler wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:54:02 +0200
=?KOI8-R?B?z8zYx8Egy9LZ1sHOz9fTy8HR?>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can I use getconf to test if a ZFS file system is mounted in case
>>> insensitive mode?
>>
>> we would have to put in the zfs query (hopefull more generic that just
for
>> zfs)
>> the only current working case-insensitive checks are for uwin
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> zfs-discuss mailing list
>> zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org
>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
>
> There is a pathconf(2) check described in the
> documentation for the case-insensitive behavior ARC case
>
> http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2007/244/spec.txt
>
> Not sure why it''s not in the man page...
>
> -tim
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Tim, did ZFS or CIFS add other pathconf() values which need to be
implemented in getconf or ksh93?

Olga

2010/4/15 ????? ???????????? <olga.kryzhanovska at
gmail.com>:
> /usr/bin/getconf _PC_CASE_BEHAVIOR /tmp
> getconf: Invalid argument (_PC_CASE_BEHAVIOR)
>
> I''m sure this is a bug, right?
>
> Olga
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Tim Haley <tim.haley at oracle.com>
wrote:
>> On 04/14/10 11:48 AM, Glenn Fowler wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:54:02 +0200
=?KOI8-R?B?z8zYx8Egy9LZ1sHOz9fTy8HR?>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can I use getconf to test if a ZFS file system is mounted in
case
>>>> insensitive mode?
>>>
>>> we would have to put in the zfs query (hopefull more generic that
just for
>>> zfs)
>>> the only current working case-insensitive checks are for uwin
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> zfs-discuss mailing list
>>> zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org
>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
>>
>> There is a pathconf(2) check described in the
>> documentation for the case-insensitive behavior ARC case
>>
>> http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/PSARC/2007/244/spec.txt
>>
>> Not sure why it''s not in the man page...
>>
>> -tim
>> _______________________________________________
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>> zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org
>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
>>
>
>
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