Good morning. This is more than likley a stupid question on this alias but I will ask anyway. I am building a media server in the house and am trying to figure out what os to install. I know it must have zfs support but can''t figure if I should use Freenas or open solaris. Free nas has the advantage of out of the box setup but is there anything similar for opensolaris? Also, ability to boot and install from USB key would be handy. Thanks. --Tiernan -- Tiernan O''Toole blog.lotas-smartman.net www.tiernanotoolephotography.com www.the-hairy-one.com
On Jan 28, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Tiernan OToole wrote:> Good morning. This is more than likley a stupid question on this alias > but I will ask anyway. I am building a media server in the house and > am trying to figure out what os to install. I know it must have zfs > support but can''t figure if I should use Freenas or open solaris. > > Free nas has the advantage of out of the box setup but is there > anything similar for opensolaris? Also, ability to boot and install > from USB key would be handy.Check out NexentaStor. www.nexenta.com -- richard
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Tiernan OToole <lsmartman at gmail.com> wrote:> Good morning. This is more than likley a stupid question on this alias > but I will ask anyway. I am building a media server in the house and > am trying to figure out what os to install. I know it must have zfs > support but can''t figure if I should use Freenas or open solaris. > > Free nas has the advantage of out of the box setup but is there > anything similar for opensolaris? Also, ability to boot and install > from USB key would be handy. > > Thanks. > > --Tiernan > > You should def. go with opensolaris or something based on opensolaris ifpossible BUT there is one major caveat OpenSolaris has a much smaller HCL than FreeBSD. Finding hardware for Osol isn''t hard if you design your system around it, but it CAN be an issue when you are using "found" hardware or old stuff you just happen to have. If you are designing a system from scratch and don''t mind doing the research, it''s a nice option. The main reason i PERSONALLY say to go with Osol is that it has the newest ZFS features and i found CIFS performance to be great, not to mention easy to set up. (you download 2 packages and then simply use zfs set sharesmb=on, what could be easier) FreeBSD is great too (and FreeNAS is based on FreeBSD) but for PURE fileserver/nas I think opensolaris is a better choice.> -- > Tiernan O''Toole > blog.lotas-smartman.net > www.tiernanotoolephotography.com > www.the-hairy-one.com > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100128/3f9e44df/attachment.html>
thanks. I have looked at nexentastor, but i have a lot more drives than 2Tb... i know their nexentacore could be better suited... I think its also based on OpenSolaris too, correct? On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Thomas Burgess <wonslung at gmail.com> wrote:> > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Tiernan OToole <lsmartman at gmail.com>wrote: > >> Good morning. This is more than likley a stupid question on this alias >> but I will ask anyway. I am building a media server in the house and >> am trying to figure out what os to install. I know it must have zfs >> support but can''t figure if I should use Freenas or open solaris. >> >> Free nas has the advantage of out of the box setup but is there >> anything similar for opensolaris? Also, ability to boot and install >> from USB key would be handy. >> >> Thanks. >> >> --Tiernan >> >> You should def. go with opensolaris or something based on opensolaris if > possible BUT there is one major caveat > > OpenSolaris has a much smaller HCL than FreeBSD. Finding hardware for Osol > isn''t hard if you design your system around it, but it CAN be an issue when > you are using "found" hardware or old stuff you just happen to have. If you > are designing a system from scratch and don''t mind doing the research, it''s > a nice option. > > The main reason i PERSONALLY say to go with Osol is that it has the newest > ZFS features and i found CIFS performance to be great, not to mention easy > to set up. (you download 2 packages and then simply use zfs set sharesmb=on, > what could be easier) > > FreeBSD is great too (and FreeNAS is based on FreeBSD) but for PURE > fileserver/nas I think opensolaris is a better choice. > > > > > > >> -- >> >> Tiernan O''Toole >> blog.lotas-smartman.net >> www.tiernanotoolephotography.com >> www.the-hairy-one.com >> _______________________________________________ >> zfs-discuss mailing list >> zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >> > >-- Tiernan O''Toole blog.lotas-smartman.net www.tiernanotoolephotography.com www.the-hairy-one.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100129/31b61aa2/attachment.html>
On Jan 29, 2010, at 4:10 AM, Tiernan OToole wrote:> thanks. > > I have looked at nexentastor, but i have a lot more drives than 2Tb... i know their nexentacore could be better suited... I think its also based on OpenSolaris too, correct?The current NexentaStor developer edition has a 4 TB limit for freeness ($$). A 4 TB media server is kinda small, though. The Nexenta Core Platform uses Solaris kernel with a debian packaging system. The current unstable release (3.0 alpha 4) is based on OpenSolaris b131. StormOS is Nexenta Core Platform with an Ubuntu userland. So many distros, so little time... :-) -- richard
On Fri, January 29, 2010 12:31, Richard Elling wrote:> A 4 TB media server is kinda small, though.I do so love living in the future :-). -- David Dyer-Bennet, dd-b at dd-b.net; http://dd-b.net/ Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/ Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/ Dragaera: http://dragaera.info
I have used OpenSolaris on the NAS and XBMC as the media player, and it works greatl. See: http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/08/home-fileserver-zfs-setup/ and http://breden.org.uk/2009/05/10/home-fileserver-zfs-file-systems/ and http://breden.org.uk/2009/06/20/home-fileserver-media-center/ For the HTPC, media client computer, the NVidia ION platform looks good, running Linux and XBMC. ASRock ION 330 + Linux + XBMC = A nice reasonably priced HTPC This small, quiet HTPC based on a low-power Intel Atom 330 dual core processor, running XBMC on Linux looks like it should be a nice little Home Theatre PC. It uses the NVidia ION graphics platform and seems to have sufficient power for displaying most types of video. Price around ?250 / ?280 / $350 as of October 2009. Includes 2 GB RAM and a 320 GB internal hard drive, but as it has built in wired GbE, this gizmo will hook up to your NAS and act as a video client. Looks good. Add a USB infra-red receiver dongle and remote control and you?re set! See here for more info: http://xbmc.org/blittan/2009/10/12/asrock-ion-330/ Cheers, Simon -- This message posted from opensolaris.org
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Simon Breden <sbreden at gmail.com> wrote:> I have used OpenSolaris on the NAS and XBMC as the media player, and it works greatl.Same here, although I use a normal modded XBOX. I am thinking of switching to a Mac Mini w/ Plex soon (a friend''s setup is really awesome) - I want more horsepower under the hood. The XBOX is dated now, and won''t even play certain DVDs. I will note that one version of OpenSolaris (supposedly fixed now) could not load .iso files above something like 2.6 gigs using the in-kernel CIFS service. Switching it back to userland samba worked fine. My whole reason for using SXCE was for the CIFS service :p
> Same here, although I use a normal modded XBOX. I am > thinking of > switching to a Mac Mini w/ Plex soon (a friend''s > setup is really > awesome) - I want more horsepower under the hood. The > XBOX is dated > now, and won''t even play certain DVDs.Yes, a modded XBOX will play a lot of things but will struggle with highly compressed streams and will fail at HD etc. The ION platform is especially interesting as these boxes are really cheap, and you can slap Linux + XBMC on there for free. Yes, I also hear that Plex running on a Mac Mini is good, but they are more expensive than an ION-based box. ION can play HD apparently. And what about Plex? I think it''s a fork of XBMC. Does it have the same level of development support as XBMC? Cheers, Simon -- This message posted from opensolaris.org
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Simon Breden <sbreden at gmail.com> wrote:> Yes, a modded XBOX will play a lot of things but will struggle with highly compressed streams and will fail at HD etc. The ION platform is especially interesting as these boxes are really cheap, and you can slap Linux + XBMC on there for free. Yes, I also hear that Plex running on a Mac Mini is good, but they are more expensive than an ION-based box. ION can play HD apparently. And what about Plex? I think it''s a fork of XBMC. Does it have the same level of development support as XBMC?Not sure this is the right place to discuss all that :) It is a fork of XBMC. I am not sure where it improves upon it, but I''ve seen it running in person, 1080p/mkv/looks gorgeous, downloads info about the movies and all sorts of great stuff. I''ve thought about an ION solution. Small, cheaper, etc. But XBMC on top of Windows scares me a bit. I don''t consider Windows a stable foundation for anything. Linux-based XBMC ports too were annoying to try to get going a while back. Think it''s better now... The normal XBOX can do 1080i at the max, and the menus/UI look great, but it struggles with mkvs and other things. It''s one of those "great a few years ago" solutions.
>>>>> "re" == Richard Elling <richard.elling at gmail.com> writes: >>>>> "tb" == Thomas Burgess <wonslung at gmail.com> writes:re> The current NexentaStor developer edition has a 4 TB limit for re> freeness ($$) pft. thank you, drive through. tb> FreeBSD is great too (and FreeNAS is based on FreeBSD) hard to tell :(. seems to me, Yes. There is this rumor: http://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/freenas/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3966&start=0 then there is an ``interview'''' with someone claiming to be from ``iXsystems'''' company post-fork which very suspiciously does not mention CoreNAS, OpenMediaVault, or FreeNAS 0.8. No mention at all is highly suspicious and makes me think the interviewee is not in control of the project, just trying to make money by sitting on top of its name, but still there is a maintenance release of freenas more recent than the rumor. Sounds like maybe some of the old developers tried to hijack all the users onto CoreNAS, but new developers/opportunists filled the gap. can''t really tell, though. Be careful it doesn''t become sort of like OpenSIPS OpenSER Kamailio where if you ask for the wrong name you will get an ancient version of the code predating the fork. also there could some day be two FreeNAS''s fighting over the name and the version numbers. seems like the CoreNAS guy is trying to hedge his bets with these three different names for his unreleased build. next step, if I cared, is to look into which one has a working svn/git server with tags matching their iso''s. btrfs vs ZFS in NAS LiveCD form will get interesting! I wish someone would make an openwrt-based version so I could run the same code on Marvell Orion or on LiveCD. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 304 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100129/b662b3d4/attachment.bin>
Yep, you''re right, the topic was media server build :) Cheers, Simon -- This message posted from opensolaris.org
cool lads! thanks for the links. checking out Simon''s posts now. going to try get my hands on an external DVD Drive and install something tomorrow... NextaCore might be the way to go if it has both OpenSolaris and Debian, or StormOS, which sounds interesting too... I agree, 4Tb for a home server is not a lot... currently, raw, there is more than that in the case ATM, and there is another 4Tb RAW still to go in (need a bigger case...). Thanks again. On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Simon Breden <sbreden at gmail.com> wrote:> Yep, you''re right, the topic was media server build :) > > Cheers, > Simon > -- > This message posted from opensolaris.org > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >-- Tiernan O''Toole blog.lotas-smartman.net www.tiernanotoolephotography.com www.the-hairy-one.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100130/a7fd7c6e/attachment.html>
hello may i suggest my free napp-it zfs-server it is based on free nexenta3 (core) or opensolaris/eon, (no hd limit, deduplication, zfs3, all the new stuff) -with user editable webgui, -easy setup instructions (copy and run) and a hardware reference design. howto see http://www.napp-it.org/napp-it.pdf more http://www.napp-it.org gea -- This message posted from opensolaris.org
I have 4 such htpc''s based on the zotac ionitx board. It''s wonderful. With VDPAU you can get 1080p video without any issues and it uses AT MOST 30 watts of power, but normally more like 15. I use opensolaris as my nas, currently in a norco 4020 case with 20 1TB drives on 3 AOC-SAT2-MV8 cards, opensolaris is installed on 2 ssd''s which i have inside the norco, not in hot swap bays. I used a q9550 cpu which has turned out to be somewhat overkill EVEN running xen and using 2 vm''s On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Simon Breden <sbreden at gmail.com> wrote:> I have used OpenSolaris on the NAS and XBMC as the media player, and it > works greatl. See: > > http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/08/home-fileserver-zfs-setup/ and > http://breden.org.uk/2009/05/10/home-fileserver-zfs-file-systems/ and > http://breden.org.uk/2009/06/20/home-fileserver-media-center/ > > For the HTPC, media client computer, the NVidia ION platform looks good, > running Linux and XBMC. > > ASRock ION 330 + Linux + XBMC = A nice reasonably priced HTPC > This small, quiet HTPC based on a low-power Intel Atom 330 dual core > processor, running XBMC on Linux looks like it should be a nice little Home > Theatre PC. It uses the NVidia ION graphics platform and seems to have > sufficient power for displaying most types of video. Price around ?250 / > ?280 / $350 as of October 2009. Includes 2 GB RAM and a 320 GB internal hard > drive, but as it has built in wired GbE, this gizmo will hook up to your NAS > and act as a video client. Looks good. Add a USB infra-red receiver dongle > and remote control and you?re set! > > See here for more info: > http://xbmc.org/blittan/2009/10/12/asrock-ion-330/ > > Cheers, > Simon > -- > This message posted from opensolaris.org > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100130/a5c95a73/attachment.html>
Good to hear someone else confirming the greatness of this ION platform for an HTPC. BTW, how do you keep all those drives quiet? Do you use a lot of silicone grommets on the drive screws, or some other form of vibration damping? Cheers, Simon -- This message posted from opensolaris.org
This is my setup: http://michaelshadle.com/2009/09/28/my-recipe-for-zfs-at-home/ It runs pretty quiet. I tried to swap the fans out on the 5-in-3 units but couldn''t get it to work, although I didn''t put much effort into it. I actually have two identical machines now. One runs SXCE. The other is Sol10u7 I think (it''s Solaris 10 though) - I forgot to move the data off the SXCE one so I could convert it. I don''t really need anything from opensolaris technically. Time slider would be the only thing of benefit to me. Possibly the in-kernel CIFS server now that the bug is supposedly fixed. Anyway they work great and I feel safe knowing ZFS is working it''s magic to protect my data (as much as any filesystem can) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Simon Breden <sbreden at gmail.com> wrote:> Good to hear someone else confirming the greatness of this ION > platform for an HTPC. BTW, how do you keep all those drives quiet? > Do you use a lot of silicone grommets on the drive screws, or some > other form of vibration damping? > > Cheers, > Simon > -- > This message posted from opensolaris.org > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
right... so, the machine booted with NexentaCore, but have a couple of questions... probably stupid ones... firstly, trying to install Napp-it fails... 500 error messages... tried all the tips, any recommendations? secondly, i have 8 250Gb hdds (on a raid controller, but listed out as 8 drives, no RAID), a 120Gb (boot) a 500Gb and a 750Gb... the 8 drives are in ZRAID2 ATM, but any recommendations how i should setup the other 2? i can swap the 750 for another 500, which i have 2 of... and i could get all 3 500''s in...should i go zraid1 with the 3 500s or do something else? finally, i have 3 net cards in the box (not ZFS specific, but i will ask here anyway...) and only the onboard has been configured but its only 100mb/s... how do i figure out what the others are and add them? Again, stupid newbe questions here... Tiernan OToole Software Developer Chat Google Talk: lsmartman at gmail.com Skype: tiernanotoole MSN: lotas_sm at hotmail.com Contact Me Linkedin <http://www.linkedin.com/in/tiernano>Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/tiernano>Flickr <http://www.flickr.com/photos/lsmartman>Twitter <http://twitter.com/tiernano>Last.fm <http://last.fm/user/tiernano> Tiernans Comms Closet New Year, New Upgrades... <http://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/lotas/%7E3/fV7JW0nb-ho/new-year-new-upgrades> --- @ WiseStamp Signature <http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=2zg6wfn5969vhs77&site=www.wisestamp.com/email-install>. Get it now <http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=2zg6wfn5969vhs77&site=www.wisestamp.com/email-install> On 30/01/2010 09:33, G?nther wrote:> hello > > may i suggest my free napp-it zfs-server > it is based on free nexenta3 (core) or opensolaris/eon, > > (no hd limit, deduplication, zfs3, all the new stuff) > > -with user editable webgui, > -easy setup instructions (copy and run) > and a hardware reference design. > > howto see > http://www.napp-it.org/napp-it.pdf > > more > http://www.napp-it.org > > gea >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/0dec87a4/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: gtalk.png Type: image/png Size: 911 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/0dec87a4/attachment.png> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: skype.png Type: image/png Size: 3590 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/0dec87a4/attachment-0001.png> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: msn.png Type: image/png Size: 969 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/0dec87a4/attachment-0002.png> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: linkedin.png Type: image/png Size: 655 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/0dec87a4/attachment-0003.png> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: facebook.png Type: image/png Size: 258 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/0dec87a4/attachment-0004.png> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: flickr.png Type: image/png Size: 328 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/0dec87a4/attachment-0005.png> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: twitter.png Type: image/png Size: 570 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/0dec87a4/attachment-0006.png> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: lastfm.png Type: image/png Size: 560 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/0dec87a4/attachment-0007.png>
hello napp-it is just a simple cgi-script common 3 reasons for error 500: - file permission: just set all files in /napp-it/.. to 777 recursively (rwx for all - napp-it will set them correct at first call) -files must be copied in ascii-mode have you used winscp? ; otherwise you must care about -cgi-bin folder must be allowed to hold executabels is set in apache config file in /etc/apache2/sites/enabled/000-default should be ok per default - missing modules (not a problem in nexenta) please look at apache error log-file at /var/log/apache2/error.log there you will find the reason for this error your nics: i suppose, your other nics are not supported by default you can try to find and install drivers or (better): forget them and buy a intel nic -(about 50 euro, no problem) your hd: if you build a raid 1 or raid-z, the capacity depends on the smallest drive, so your 750 hd is used as 500 gig- gea -- This message posted from opensolaris.org
Thanks for the info. I will take the Napp-it question off line with G?nther and see if i can fix that. Intel Nic sounds like a plan... was thinking of sticking 2 in anyway... just looking at the cards though, they are GigaNIX 2032T and searching for this online results nothing when i include Solaris or OpenSolaris... Pity... finally, i will use the 750 somewhere else, and use 3 500s i have here... should be enough to start with... Tiernan OToole Software Developer Chat Google Talk: lsmartman at gmail.com Skype: tiernanotoole MSN: lotas_sm at hotmail.com Contact Me Linkedin <http://www.linkedin.com/in/tiernano>Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/tiernano>Flickr <http://www.flickr.com/photos/lsmartman>Twitter <http://twitter.com/tiernano>Last.fm <http://last.fm/user/tiernano> Tiernans Comms Closet New Year, New Upgrades... <http://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/lotas/%7E3/fV7JW0nb-ho/new-year-new-upgrades> --- @ WiseStamp Signature <http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=2zg6wfn5969vhs77&site=www.wisestamp.com/email-install>. Get it now <http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=2zg6wfn5969vhs77&site=www.wisestamp.com/email-install> On 31/01/2010 18:43, G?nther wrote:> hello > > napp-it is just a simple cgi-script > > common 3 reasons for error 500: > - file permission: just set all files in /napp-it/.. to 777 recursively > (rwx for all - napp-it will set them correct at first call) > > -files must be copied in ascii-mode > have you used winscp? ; otherwise you must care about > > -cgi-bin folder must be allowed to hold executabels > is set in apache config file in /etc/apache2/sites/enabled/000-default > should be ok per default > > - missing modules (not a problem in nexenta) > > please look at apache error log-file at > /var/log/apache2/error.log > > there you will find the reason for this error > > your nics: > i suppose, your other nics are not supported by default > you can try to find and install drivers or (better): > forget them and buy a intel nic -(about 50 euro, no problem) > > your hd: > if you build a raid 1 or raid-z, the capacity depends on > the smallest drive, so your 750 hd is used as 500 gig- > > gea >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/83c09065/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: gtalk.png Type: image/png Size: 911 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/83c09065/attachment.png> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: skype.png Type: image/png Size: 3590 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/83c09065/attachment-0001.png> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: msn.png Type: image/png Size: 969 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/83c09065/attachment-0002.png> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: linkedin.png Type: image/png Size: 655 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/83c09065/attachment-0003.png> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: facebook.png Type: image/png Size: 258 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/83c09065/attachment-0004.png> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: flickr.png Type: image/png Size: 328 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/83c09065/attachment-0005.png> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: twitter.png Type: image/png Size: 570 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/83c09065/attachment-0006.png> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: lastfm.png Type: image/png Size: 560 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20100131/83c09065/attachment-0007.png>