zfs discuss - Aug 2009 - [storage-discuss] ZFS and deduplication

Was de-duplication slated for snv_119? If not can anyone say which snv_xxx and
in which form will we see it (synchronous, asynchronous both)?
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On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:26:12 -0700 (PDT)
Andre Lue <no-reply at opensolaris.org> wrote:

Was de-duplication slated for snv_119? 

No.
> If not can anyone say which snv_xxx and in which form will we
> see it (synchronous, asynchronous both)?
No, and no.

Sorry,
James
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Senior Kernel Software Engineer, Solaris
Sun Microsystems
http://blogs.sun.com/jmcp	http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog
Kernel Conference Australia - http://au.sun.com/sunnews/events/2009/kernel

James C. McPherson wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:26:12 -0700 (PDT)
> Andre Lue <no-reply at opensolaris.org> wrote:
>
> Was de-duplication slated for snv_119? 
>
> No.
>
>   
>> If not can anyone say which snv_xxx and in which form will we
>> see it (synchronous, asynchronous both)?
>>     
>
> No, and no.
>   
<noise>

If anyone from Greenbytes is reading this..  If you would have released 
the source and been community friendly about your dedup you could have 
had an Ubuntu cult-like following by now.  By this I mean thousands of 
users and companies possibly using it.  This may not have been what you 
originally envisioned, but there are business models which would have 
worked.

Where are things now and how can that all be turned around?

-------------------
If you want dedup in OpenSolaris please vote in the poll I just setup.

http://www.osunix.org/poll.jspa?poll=1001

If they realize there''s a voice listening maybe they will listen back.


Regards,

./Christopher


</noise>

> On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:26:12 -0700 (PDT)
> Andre Lue <no-reply at opensolaris.org> wrote:
> 
> Was de-duplication slated for snv_119? 
> 
> No.
> 
> > If not can anyone say which snv_xxx and in which
> form will we
> > see it (synchronous, asynchronous both)?
> 
> No, and no.
> 
> Sorry,
> James
Andre, I''ve seen this before. What you have to do is ask James each
question 3 times and on the third time he will tell the truth. ;)

I know it''s not in the preview of 2010.2 (build 118).

On a serious note, James - do you know the status of the presentation recording
on ZFS deduplication?

Many thanks,
Nathan
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On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:02:43 -0700 (PDT)
Nathan Hudson-Crim <no-reply at opensolaris.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:26:12 -0700 (PDT)
> > Andre Lue <no-reply at opensolaris.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Was de-duplication slated for snv_119? 
> > 
> > No.
> > 
> > > If not can anyone say which snv_xxx and in which
> > form will we
> > > see it (synchronous, asynchronous both)?
> > 
> > No, and no.
> > 
> > Sorry,
> > James
> 
> Andre, I''ve seen this before. What you have to do is ask James
each
> question 3 times and on the third time he will tell the truth. ;)

Nathan, I know you''ve put a smiley there, but really, did you intend to
call my professionalism and honesty into question, or is that merely a
side effect?

> I know it''s not in the preview of 2010.2 (build 118).
> 
> On a serious note, James - do you know the status of the presentation 
> recording on ZFS deduplication?
I know it''s on tape. I will find out from our videographer what the
status is and post.



James C. McPherson
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Senior Kernel Software Engineer, Solaris
Sun Microsystems
http://blogs.sun.com/jmcp	http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog
Kernel Conference Australia - http://au.sun.com/sunnews/events/2009/kernel

I was absolutely not impugning you in any way but rather trying to lighten the
mood with a little Austin Powers humor. I''ll refrain from this in the
future.

And quite to the contrary of any negative feelings, I am pleased and grateful
that you are participating in this conversation.

Regards,
Nathan
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Nathan Hudson-Crim,

On 04/08/2009, at 8:02 AM, Nathan Hudson-Crim wrote:
> Andre, I''ve seen this before. What you have to do is ask James
each
> question 3 times and on the third time he will tell the truth. ;)
I know this is probably meant to be seen as a joke, but it''s clearly  
in very poor taste and extremely discourteous and rude to make public  
statements to the effect of:

"James McPherson is a liar and we should public berate him until he  
tells us what we want to hear regardless of the real situation of  
which I have no information other than what I want to believe".

Really!  Please actually think before you post.

(another) James

James Lever wrote:
> Nathan Hudson-Crim,
>
> On 04/08/2009, at 8:02 AM, Nathan Hudson-Crim wrote:
>
>> Andre, I''ve seen this before. What you have to do is ask James
each
>> question 3 times and on the third time he will tell the truth. ;)
fwiw.. I totally could see this in a joking context.. I won''t tell 
anyone to lighten up since I''m the one typically being so serious, but
I
can imagine how stressful/unfun it must be @Sun these days.

Next April I really hope someone has the nerve to float Larry''s car as 
they did to Bill Joy.. [1]


./C


[1] 
http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/april-fool-pranks-in-sun-microsystems-over-the-years/