Jose Gregores
2009-Feb-20 17:12 UTC
[zfs-discuss] Oracle doc: Unable to run Forms applications when using Solaris Zettabyte File System (ZFS)
Hi all, We have a Suncluster/ZFS customer complaining about this issue. Subject: Unable to run Forms applications when using Solaris Zettabyte File System (ZFS) Doc ID: 730691.1 Type: PROBLEM Modified Date: 24-SEP-2008 Status: PUBLISHED In this Document Symptoms Changes Cause Solution References Applies to: Oracle Application Server 10g Enterprise Edition - Version: 1.0.2.0.0 to 10.1.3.0.0 Oracle Forms - Version: 6.0 to 10.1.2 Solaris Operating System (SPARC 64-bit) Solaris Operating System (SPARC 32-bit) Symptoms A common symptom will include Oracle Forms applications intermittently or consistently failing at startup or while in use. The error displayed on the client will be FRM-92101. Changes This problem can be exposed when enabling Solaris Zettabyte File System (ZFS). Cause Oracle Fusion Middleware and all of it subcomponents (i.e. Forms, Reports, etc) have not been certified to be used in a Solaris ZFS environment or any other specific file systems. This includes all Application Server versions 1.0 - 10.1.3. Therefore, Oracle technical support will be limited for installations configured in this type of environment. Usually, Oracle Fusion Middleware software can be installed on file systems provided by the OS vendor. If there is a compatibility issue specific to an OS version and/or file system that is being used, contact the OS vendors directly. Internal Bug 7308848 - CLARIFICATION ON AS CERTIFICATION USING ZFS Solution Because Solaris ZFS has not been certified and technical support will be limited for this configuration, it is strongly recommended that ZFS not be used without extensive testing prior to moving to production. Problems reproducible only when using a specific file system type should be directed toward the OS vendor and not Oracle. It is not expected that ZFS will be supported for use with Application Server 10.1.2 or 10.1.3 before these product versions reach their desupport dates. Information about Fusion Middleware support and support dates can be found in a brochure titled, "Lifetime Support Policy: Oracle Technology Products" found on the Oracle web site. http://www.oracle.com/support/library/brochure/lifetime-support-technology.pdf Please refer to the Application Server Certification documentation for the latest updates regarding this issue. http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/ias/files/as_certification_r2_101202.html References Do we have a solution or suggestion for this problem ? Thanks*.* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20090220/3ee3115f/attachment.html>
Blake
2009-Feb-20 18:32 UTC
[zfs-discuss] Oracle doc: Unable to run Forms applications when using Solaris Zettabyte File System (ZFS)
If this happens if ZFS is in use anywhere in the system, I''m not sure of a solution. If you just need Oracle files and activity to be on something other than ZFS, could you try creating a ZFS block device and formatting it UFS? (disclaimer: I''m not an Oracle user) On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Jose Gregores <Jose.Gregores at sun.com> wrote:> Hi all, > We have a Suncluster/ZFS customer complaining about this issue. > > Subject: Unable to run Forms applications when using Solaris Zettabyte > File System (ZFS) > Doc ID: 730691.1 Type: PROBLEM > Modified Date: 24-SEP-2008 Status: PUBLISHED > > In this Document > Symptoms > Changes > Cause > Solution > References > > Applies to: > Oracle Application Server 10g Enterprise Edition - Version: 1.0.2.0.0 to > 10.1.3.0.0 > Oracle Forms - Version: 6.0 to 10.1.2 > Solaris Operating System (SPARC 64-bit) > Solaris Operating System (SPARC 32-bit) > Symptoms > > A common symptom will include Oracle Forms applications intermittently or > consistently failing at startup or while in use. The error displayed on the > client will be FRM-92101. > Changes > This problem can be exposed when enabling Solaris Zettabyte File System > (ZFS). > Cause > > Oracle Fusion Middleware and all of it subcomponents (i.e. Forms, Reports, > etc) have not been certified to be used in a Solaris ZFS environment or any > other specific file systems. This includes all Application Server versions > 1.0 - 10.1.3. Therefore, Oracle technical support will be limited for > installations configured in this type of environment. > > Usually, Oracle Fusion Middleware software can be installed on file systems > provided by the OS vendor. If there is a compatibility issue specific to an > OS version and/or file system that is being used, contact the OS vendors > directly. > > Internal Bug 7308848 - CLARIFICATION ON AS CERTIFICATION USING ZFS > Solution > > Because Solaris ZFS has not been certified and technical support will be > limited for this configuration, it is strongly recommended that ZFS not be > used without extensive testing prior to moving to production. Problems > reproducible only when using a specific file system type should be directed > toward the OS vendor and not Oracle. > > It is not expected that ZFS will be supported for use with Application > Server 10.1.2 or 10.1.3 before these product versions reach their desupport > dates. Information about Fusion Middleware support and support dates can be > found in a brochure titled, "Lifetime Support Policy: Oracle Technology > Products" found on the Oracle web site. > > http://www.oracle.com/support/library/brochure/lifetime-support-technology.pdf > > Please refer to the Application Server Certification documentation for the > latest updates regarding this issue. > > http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/ias/files/as_certification_r2_101202.html > References > > > Do we have a solution or suggestion for this problem ? > Thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss > >
Jose Gregores
2009-Feb-20 18:43 UTC
[zfs-discuss] Oracle doc: Unable to run Forms applications when using Solaris Zettabyte File System (ZFS)
Blake escreveu:> If this happens if ZFS is in use anywhere in the system, I''m not sure > of a solution. >Yes, this happens on our customer that has a 3 node Suncluster with 150 zpools and 50 zones and 15 Oracle databases.> If you just need Oracle files and activity to be on something other > than ZFS, could you try creating a ZFS block device and formatting it > UFS? > >How can we do that *?*> (disclaimer: I''m not an Oracle user) > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Jose Gregores <Jose.Gregores at sun.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> We have a Suncluster/ZFS customer complaining about this issue. >> >> Subject: Unable to run Forms applications when using Solaris Zettabyte >> File System (ZFS) >> Doc ID: 730691.1 Type: PROBLEM >> Modified Date: 24-SEP-2008 Status: PUBLISHED >> >> In this Document >> Symptoms >> Changes >> Cause >> Solution >> References >> >> Applies to: >> Oracle Application Server 10g Enterprise Edition - Version: 1.0.2.0.0 to >> 10.1.3.0.0 >> Oracle Forms - Version: 6.0 to 10.1.2 >> Solaris Operating System (SPARC 64-bit) >> Solaris Operating System (SPARC 32-bit) >> Symptoms >> >> A common symptom will include Oracle Forms applications intermittently or >> consistently failing at startup or while in use. The error displayed on the >> client will be FRM-92101. >> Changes >> This problem can be exposed when enabling Solaris Zettabyte File System >> (ZFS). >> Cause >> >> Oracle Fusion Middleware and all of it subcomponents (i.e. Forms, Reports, >> etc) have not been certified to be used in a Solaris ZFS environment or any >> other specific file systems. This includes all Application Server versions >> 1.0 - 10.1.3. Therefore, Oracle technical support will be limited for >> installations configured in this type of environment. >> >> Usually, Oracle Fusion Middleware software can be installed on file systems >> provided by the OS vendor. If there is a compatibility issue specific to an >> OS version and/or file system that is being used, contact the OS vendors >> directly. >> >> Internal Bug 7308848 - CLARIFICATION ON AS CERTIFICATION USING ZFS >> Solution >> >> Because Solaris ZFS has not been certified and technical support will be >> limited for this configuration, it is strongly recommended that ZFS not be >> used without extensive testing prior to moving to production. Problems >> reproducible only when using a specific file system type should be directed >> toward the OS vendor and not Oracle. >> >> It is not expected that ZFS will be supported for use with Application >> Server 10.1.2 or 10.1.3 before these product versions reach their desupport >> dates. Information about Fusion Middleware support and support dates can be >> found in a brochure titled, "Lifetime Support Policy: Oracle Technology >> Products" found on the Oracle web site. >> >> http://www.oracle.com/support/library/brochure/lifetime-support-technology.pdf >> >> Please refer to the Application Server Certification documentation for the >> latest updates regarding this issue. >> >> http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/ias/files/as_certification_r2_101202.html >> References >> >> >> Do we have a solution or suggestion for this problem ? >> Thanks. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> zfs-discuss mailing list >> zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org >> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >> >> >>-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20090220/9fa1aea9/attachment.html>
Blake
2009-Feb-20 19:15 UTC
[zfs-discuss] Oracle doc: Unable to run Forms applications when using Solaris Zettabyte File System (ZFS)
It looks like this is a bigger Oracle environment than any database environment that I''ve ever worked in :) Anyway - when you create a zfs filesystem, you can do it with the ''-V'' option, which makes a block device of a fixed size that''s accessible through the usual /dev device path. You can then put a UFS filesystem on this ZFS-backed block device. See ''man zfs'' for details. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Jose Gregores <Jose.Gregores at sun.com> wrote:> Blake escreveu: > > If this happens if ZFS is in use anywhere in the system, I''m not sure > of a solution. > > > Yes, this happens on our customer that has a 3 node Suncluster with 150 > zpools and 50 zones and 15 Oracle databases. > > If you just need Oracle files and activity to be on something other > than ZFS, could you try creating a ZFS block device and formatting it > UFS? > > > > How can we do that ? > > (disclaimer: I''m not an Oracle user) > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Jose Gregores <Jose.Gregores at sun.com> > wrote: > > > Hi all, > We have a Suncluster/ZFS customer complaining about this issue. > > Subject: Unable to run Forms applications when using Solaris Zettabyte > File System (ZFS) > Doc ID: 730691.1 Type: PROBLEM > Modified Date: 24-SEP-2008 Status: PUBLISHED > > In this Document > Symptoms > Changes > Cause > Solution > References > > Applies to: > Oracle Application Server 10g Enterprise Edition - Version: 1.0.2.0.0 to > 10.1.3.0.0 > Oracle Forms - Version: 6.0 to 10.1.2 > Solaris Operating System (SPARC 64-bit) > Solaris Operating System (SPARC 32-bit) > Symptoms > > A common symptom will include Oracle Forms applications intermittently or > consistently failing at startup or while in use. The error displayed on the > client will be FRM-92101. > Changes > This problem can be exposed when enabling Solaris Zettabyte File System > (ZFS). > Cause > > Oracle Fusion Middleware and all of it subcomponents (i.e. Forms, Reports, > etc) have not been certified to be used in a Solaris ZFS environment or any > other specific file systems. This includes all Application Server versions > 1.0 - 10.1.3. Therefore, Oracle technical support will be limited for > installations configured in this type of environment. > > Usually, Oracle Fusion Middleware software can be installed on file systems > provided by the OS vendor. If there is a compatibility issue specific to an > OS version and/or file system that is being used, contact the OS vendors > directly. > > Internal Bug 7308848 - CLARIFICATION ON AS CERTIFICATION USING ZFS > Solution > > Because Solaris ZFS has not been certified and technical support will be > limited for this configuration, it is strongly recommended that ZFS not be > used without extensive testing prior to moving to production. Problems > reproducible only when using a specific file system type should be directed > toward the OS vendor and not Oracle. > > It is not expected that ZFS will be supported for use with Application > Server 10.1.2 or 10.1.3 before these product versions reach their desupport > dates. Information about Fusion Middleware support and support dates can be > found in a brochure titled, "Lifetime Support Policy: Oracle Technology > Products" found on the Oracle web site. > > http://www.oracle.com/support/library/brochure/lifetime-support-technology.pdf > > Please refer to the Application Server Certification documentation for the > latest updates regarding this issue. > > http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/ias/files/as_certification_r2_101202.html > References > > > Do we have a solution or suggestion for this problem ? > Thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss > > > >