Hi, Is this software<http://www.sun.com/storage/disk_systems/unified_storage/features.jsp>available for people who already have thumpers? -- scott at sjwilliamson.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20081111/45279cbb/attachment.html>
> Is this software available for people who already have thumpers?We''re considering offering an upgrade path for people with existing thumpers. Given the feedback we''ve been hearing, it seems very likely that we will. No word yet on pricing or availability. Adam -- Adam Leventhal, Fishworks http://blogs.sun.com/ahl
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 09:31:26AM -0800, Adam Leventhal wrote:> > Is this software available for people who already have thumpers? > > We''re considering offering an upgrade path for people with existing > thumpers. Given the feedback we''ve been hearing, it seems very likely > that we will. No word yet on pricing or availability.Just to throw some ice-cold water on this: 1. It''s highly unlikely that we will ever support the x4500 -- only the x4540 is a real possibility. 2. If we do make something available, your data and any custom software won''t survive the journey: you will be forced to fresh-install your x4540 with our stack. 3. If we do make something available, it will become an appliance: you will permanently lose the ability to run your own apps on the x4540. 4. If we do make something available, it won''t be free. If you are willing/prepared(/eager?) to abide by these constraints, please let us (fishworks at sun.com) know -- that will help us build the business case for doing this... - Bryan -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bryan Cantrill, Sun Microsystems Fishworks. http://blogs.sun.com/bmc
On Nov 11, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Bryan Cantrill wrote:> Just to throw some ice-cold water on this: > > 1. It''s highly unlikely that we will ever support the x4500 -- > only the > x4540 is a real possibility.And to warm things up a bit: there''s already an upgrade path from the x4500 to the x4540 so that would be required before any upgrade to the equivalent of the Sun Storage 7210. Adam -- Adam Leventhal, Fishworks http://blogs.sun.com/ahl
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Adam Leventhal <ahl at eng.sun.com> wrote:> On Nov 11, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Bryan Cantrill wrote: > >> Just to throw some ice-cold water on this: >> >> 1. It''s highly unlikely that we will ever support the x4500 -- >> only the >> x4540 is a real possibility. > > > And to warm things up a bit: there''s already an upgrade path from the > x4500 to the x4540 so that would be required before any upgrade to the > equivalent of the Sun Storage 7210. > > Adam > > -- > Adam Leventhal, Fishworks http://blogs.sun.com/ahl > > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss >We just ordered several X4540''s, excited to get them in place soon. Having the Openstorage GUI as an option down the road is very appealing for our VM/hosted side, after we install this bulk storage environment. Wish I could get my hands on a beta of this GUI... -- Brent Jones brent at servuhome.net
Can someone clarify Sun''s approach to opensourcing projects and software? I was under the impression the strategy was to charge for hardware, maintenance and PS. If not, some clarification would be nice. On Nov 11, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Bryan Cantrill wrote:> > 4. If we do make something available, it won''t be free. > > If you are willing/prepared(/eager?) to abide by these constraints, > please > let us (fishworks at sun.com) know -- that will help us build the > business > case for doing this... > > - Bryan >
On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Brent Jones wrote:> Wish I could get my hands on a beta of this GUI...Take a look at the VMware version that you can run on any machine: http://www.sun.com/storage/disk_systems/unified_storage/resources.jsp Adam -- Adam Leventhal, Fishworks http://blogs.sun.com/ahl
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 02:21:11PM -0500, Ed Saipetch wrote:> Can someone clarify Sun''s approach to opensourcing projects and > software? I was under the impression the strategy was to charge for > hardware, maintenance and PS. If not, some clarification would be nice.There is no single answer -- we use open source as a business strategy, not as a checkbox or edict. For this product, open source is an option going down the road, but not a priority. Will our software be open sourced in the fullness of time? My Magic 8-Ball tells me "signs point to yes" (or is that "ask again later"?) -- but it''s certainly not something that we have concrete plans for at the moment... - Bryan -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bryan Cantrill, Sun Microsystems Fishworks. http://blogs.sun.com/bmc
-----Original Message----- From: zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Cantrill Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:39 PM To: Adam Leventhal Cc: zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenStorage GUI On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 09:31:26AM -0800, Adam Leventhal wrote:> > Is this software available for people who already have thumpers? > > We''re considering offering an upgrade path for people with existing > thumpers. Given the feedback we''ve been hearing, it seems very likely > that we will. No word yet on pricing or availability.Just to throw some ice-cold water on this: 1. It''s highly unlikely that we will ever support the x4500 -- only the x4540 is a real possibility. 2. If we do make something available, your data and any custom software won''t survive the journey: you will be forced to fresh-install your x4540 with our stack. 3. If we do make something available, it will become an appliance: you will permanently lose the ability to run your own apps on the x4540. 4. If we do make something available, it won''t be free. If you are willing/prepared(/eager?) to abide by these constraints, please let us (fishworks at sun.com) know -- that will help us build the business case for doing this... - Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Bryan Cantrill, Sun Microsystems Fishworks. http://blogs.sun.com/bmc _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ------ 1. Can someone let me know who to talk to about upgrading our 4500''s (offline is fine). We did buy them about 3 weeks before the new 4540 was announced and were pretty stung that our rep didn''t tell us what was on the horizon.. Im an apple user so im pretty used to that anyways. I just didn''t know that there was a path for upgrading to what a 4540 is. 2. That''s why we bought 2 and keep each half full :) 3. I like that, even better would be a way to install it without dedicating spindles to OS. 4. I am ok with value added software being sold by Sun. We don''t mind paying money if it makes our job actually less complex each workday! Im going to give this vmware image a whirl and see what its missing :) -Andy PS - sorry for the incorrect format for responding, I didn''t have a real email client available today.
We would be very interested in this. I have just gotten my thumpers (x4500) into preproduction testing as NFS NAS servers. Our real challenge has been lack of a management GUI so that long complex lists of commands do not need to be followed. I do not run my own apps on them, so I would be interested in an upgrade path. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Bryan Cantrill <bmc at eng.sun.com> wrote:> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 09:31:26AM -0800, Adam Leventhal wrote: > > > Is this software available for people who already have thumpers? > > > > We''re considering offering an upgrade path for people with existing > > thumpers. Given the feedback we''ve been hearing, it seems very likely > > that we will. No word yet on pricing or availability. > > Just to throw some ice-cold water on this: > > 1. It''s highly unlikely that we will ever support the x4500 -- only the > x4540 is a real possibility. > > 2. If we do make something available, your data and any custom > software won''t survive the journey: you will be forced to > fresh-install your x4540 with our stack. > > 3. If we do make something available, it will become an appliance: you > will permanently lose the ability to run your own apps on the x4540. > > 4. If we do make something available, it won''t be free. > > If you are willing/prepared(/eager?) to abide by these constraints, please > let us (fishworks at sun.com) know -- that will help us build the business > case for doing this... > > - Bryan > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bryan Cantrill, Sun Microsystems Fishworks. http://blogs.sun.com/bmc >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20081111/3dc1d7cb/attachment.html>
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:26:46AM -0800, Adam Leventhal wrote:> On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Brent Jones wrote: > > Wish I could get my hands on a beta of this GUI... > > Take a look at the VMware version that you can run on any machine: > > http://www.sun.com/storage/disk_systems/unified_storage/resources.jspSo long as "any machine" != ESX, then yes. ;) -brian -- "Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta tell them exactly what you want or you''ll end up with a cupboard full of pop tarts and pancake mix." -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435)
>>>>> "es" == Ed Saipetch <ed at breathingdata.com> writes:es> Sun''s approach to opensourcing projects AIUI, only the development branch is open-sourced. The stable branches remain proprietary: no source for sol10u<n>, and no stable branch for opensolaris ips. sol10u<n> is free-as-in-free-beer for now, but you cannot make one small change and rebuild it, nor can you duplicate the DVD and give it to others. Sun loves to explain their release strategy, but the explanation is always so careful I wind up more confused after I''ve heard it than before. Nothing stops another distribution like Nexenta to make their own hopefully-more-stable branch from the unstable solaris source, but copyright ownership will prevent the competing community member from taking their branch proprietary as Sun can do with theirs. Sun is selling their patch maintenance in a CentOS-ification-proof way. Fewer people than usual seem to care among ZFS users because the stable branch isn''t stable, but if it were it''d suck to be stuck choosing between freedom and a stable release. then, CDDL is intentionally GPL-incompatible which makes a fork of the unstable trunk less likely. Also it is a hybrid closed/open thing. They have stated ``all new components added to Solaris will be open-source,'''' but this doesn''t include new drivers. There are lots of proprietary 3rd party drivers, as there are with Linux, but unlike Linux many of the inbuilt drivers for hardware Sun sells are proprietary. ``All new components'''' seems to mean their intent is for anything on which their marketing spotlight falls to beat an open-source drum---the promise has fallen rather flat for cut-off dates or product boundaries compared to something like Ubuntu. Unlike most Linuxes the compiling of bundled ''sfw'' freeware into SYSV packages is a manual process, and there''ve been reports that the source package sometimes doesn''t match the binary package or simply doesn''t build. Remember ``including all build scripts'''' from the GPL? if your source doesn''t build, make sure you build it by hand so you can try to claim the recipient jsut doesn''t have enough skill to type the right incantations. This is another way to become the main source for stable releases---you can''t add a huge subsystem to Samba this way because you''ll get caught, but you can let a few bug fixes and build tricks slip through the cracks, gaining the advantage while still appearing in good faith. And they''ve done things that look legal to me but very questionable from a software freedom advocate''s standpoint, like their franken-gcc which, unlike free-as-in-freedom gcc, makes SPARC executables of reasonable performance (good!) by combining gcc''s front-end with Forte proprietary back-end (upsetting.). From a user who cares about software freedom''s standpoint, it''s much, *much* better than Mac OS X, but meaningfully worse than Linux on several fronts. It''s hard to tell what''s strategic from what''s just unfortunate. So far publicity seems to be one of the successful prongs of the strategy---virtually all the Sun criticism you''ll read is inane stock market punditry, business-porn, predictions threats unsolicited-advice---that sort of nonsense. Criticism on the software freedom front is minimal or hazily-informed from what I''ve seen. Critics keep saying ``let''s wait and see'''' for the last three years but refuse to actually see anything and talk about it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 304 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20081111/5c015523/attachment.bin>
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Adam Leventhal <ahl at eng.sun.com> wrote:> On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Brent Jones wrote: >> >> Wish I could get my hands on a beta of this GUI... > > > Take a look at the VMware version that you can run on any machine: > > http://www.sun.com/storage/disk_systems/unified_storage/resources.jsp > > Adam > > -- > Adam Leventhal, Fishworks http://blogs.sun.com/ahl > >Tried loading this under Virtualbox and encountered some issues with all the virtual disks it required, but VMWare player worked fine. The system looks pretty sweet, I''ll be sure to show this off here to get a head start purchasing! -- Brent Jones brent at servuhome.net
Bryan Cantrill <bmc at eng.sun.com> writes:> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 02:21:11PM -0500, Ed Saipetch wrote: >> Can someone clarify Sun''s approach to opensourcing projects and >> software? I was under the impression the strategy was to charge for >> hardware, maintenance and PS. If not, some clarification would be nice. > > There is no single answer -- we use open source as a business strategy, > not as a checkbox or edict. For this product, open source is an option > going down the road, but not a priority. Will our software be open > sourced in the fullness of time? My Magic 8-Ball tells me "signs > point to yes" (or is that "ask again later"?) -- but it''s certainly > not something that we have concrete plans for at the moment...I think that''s fair enough. What Sun choose to do is, of course, up to Sun. One can, however, understand that people might have expected otherwise given statements like this:> "With our announced intent to open source the entirety of our software > offerings, every single developer across the world now has access to > the most sophisticated platform available for web 1.0, 2.0 and beyond"- Jonathan Schwartz http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2005-11/sunflash.20051130.1.xml -- Boyd
Boyd, That''s exactly what I was getting at. This list probably isn''t the place to discuss but this is the first real instance aside of maybe xVM Ops Center where it was pretty much put out in the open that you can expect to pay to get the goods. Fishworks seems to have much more than just a nice wrapper put around Solaris, ZFS, NFS, FMA, AVS etc. A lot of my ability to evangelize the benefits of Solaris in the storage world to my customers hinges on me being able to say "Try it... you''ll like it...". I know Try-and- buy exists but in the grand scheme of things, adoption of Solaris hinges on easy accessibility. I apologize for the tangent and the VM instance is a good start but the stance on opensourcing right or wrong seems like it has changed. On Nov 11, 2008, at 8:30 PM, Boyd Adamson wrote:> Bryan Cantrill <bmc at eng.sun.com> writes: > >> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 02:21:11PM -0500, Ed Saipetch wrote: >>> Can someone clarify Sun''s approach to opensourcing projects and >>> software? I was under the impression the strategy was to charge for >>> hardware, maintenance and PS. If not, some clarification would be >>> nice. >> >> There is no single answer -- we use open source as a business >> strategy, >> not as a checkbox or edict. For this product, open source is an >> option >> going down the road, but not a priority. Will our software be open >> sourced in the fullness of time? My Magic 8-Ball tells me "signs >> point to yes" (or is that "ask again later"?) -- but it''s certainly >> not something that we have concrete plans for at the moment... > > I think that''s fair enough. What Sun choose to do is, of course, up to > Sun. > > One can, however, understand that people might have expected otherwise > given statements like this: > >> "With our announced intent to open source the entirety of our >> software >> offerings, every single developer across the world now has access to >> the most sophisticated platform available for web 1.0, 2.0 and >> beyond" > > - Jonathan Schwartz > http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2005-11/sunflash.20051130.1.xml > > -- > Boyd
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:26:46AM -0800, Adam > Leventhal wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Brent Jones wrote: > > > Wish I could get my hands on a beta of this > GUI... > > > > Take a look at the VMware version that you can run > on any machine: > > > http://www.sun.com/storage/disk_systems/unified_storage > /resources.jsp > > So long as "any machine" != ESX, then yes. ;) > > -brianActually, it works pretty well on ESX 3.5 U3 for me. I just had to import the VM as an "Other" type VM using VMware Converter Enterprise, the same way you would for VMware Server VMs or whatever. For some reason I had to remove two of the network interfaces, also, but after that it fired right up. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Adam Leventhal <ahl at eng.sun.com> wrote:> On Nov 11, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Bryan Cantrill wrote: > > Just to throw some ice-cold water on this: >> >> 1. It''s highly unlikely that we will ever support the x4500 -- only the >> x4540 is a real possibility. >> > > > And to warm things up a bit: there''s already an upgrade path from the > x4500 to the x4540 so that would be required before any upgrade to the > equivalent of the Sun Storage 7210.Why exactly will this not run on an x4500? The idea behind buying them was ZFS would run on any x86 hardware and the x4500 would run more than just Solaris. This flexibility is important. I can certainly understand wanting to have full control of hardware to software for an integrated NAS device, but this looks like a nice management application built on top of OpenSolaris and other open source software. What hardware is required to upgrade the x4500 to the same functionality? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20081112/d1e7f28f/attachment.html>
Do you have any info on this upgrade path? I can''t seem to find anything about this... I would also like to throw in my $0.02 worth that I would like to see the software offered to existing sun X4540 (or upgraded X4500) customers. Chris G. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org
-----Original Message----- From: zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Chris Greer Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:20 PM To: zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenStorage GUI Do you have any info on this upgrade path? I can''t seem to find anything about this... I would also like to throw in my $0.02 worth that I would like to see the software offered to existing sun X4540 (or upgraded X4500) customers. Chris G. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss -- I too would like to see how this happens, checked with some Sun people and they didn''t know of a way to "upgrade" a 4500 other than trading it in. Im assuming the Motherboard/CPU/Memory get swapped out, and from the chasis layout, looks fairly involved. We don''t want to "upgrade" something that we just bought so we can take advantage of this software which appears to finally complete the Sun NAS picture with zfs! -Andy
The word Module makes it sound really easy :) Has anyone ever swapped this module out, and if so - was it painful? Since our 4500''s went from the pallet to the offsite datacenter I never did really get a chance to look closely at it. I found a picture of one and it looks like you could take out the whole guts in one tray (from the bottom rear?). -Andy -----Original Message----- From: Chris Greer [mailto:pcgreer at fedex.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:57 PM To: Andy Lubel; zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenStorage GUI I was hoping for a swap out of the system board module. Chris G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Lubel <andy.Lubel at gtsi.com> To: Chris Greer; zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org <zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org> Sent: Wed Nov 12 14:38:03 2008 Subject: RE: [zfs-discuss] OpenStorage GUI -----Original Message----- From: zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Chris Greer Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:20 PM To: zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenStorage GUI Do you have any info on this upgrade path? I can''t seem to find anything about this... I would also like to throw in my $0.02 worth that I would like to see the software offered to existing sun X4540 (or upgraded X4500) customers. Chris G. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss -- I too would like to see how this happens, checked with some Sun people and they didn''t know of a way to "upgrade" a 4500 other than trading it in. Im assuming the Motherboard/CPU/Memory get swapped out, and from the chasis layout, looks fairly involved. We don''t want to "upgrade" something that we just bought so we can take advantage of this software which appears to finally complete the Sun NAS picture with zfs! -Andy
There is no inbox/field upgrade available for the x4500 -> x4540. The upgrades mentioned are in the form of discounted box swaps. Sorry about that. It would be nice though. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenStorage GUI From: Andy Lubel <andy.Lubel at gtsi.com> To: Chris Greer <pcgreer at fedex.com>, zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org Date: Wed Nov 12 13:18:15 2008> The word Module makes it sound really easy :) Has anyone ever swapped > this module out, and if so - was it painful? > > Since our 4500''s went from the pallet to the offsite datacenter I never > did really get a chance to look closely at it. I found a picture of one > and it looks like you could take out the whole guts in one tray (from > the bottom rear?). > > -Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Greer [mailto:pcgreer at fedex.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:57 PM > To: Andy Lubel; zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenStorage GUI > > I was hoping for a swap out of the system board module. > > Chris G. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andy Lubel <andy.Lubel at gtsi.com> > To: Chris Greer; zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > <zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org> > Sent: Wed Nov 12 14:38:03 2008 > Subject: RE: [zfs-discuss] OpenStorage GUI > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org > [mailto:zfs-discuss-bounces at opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Chris Greer > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:20 PM > To: zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenStorage GUI > > Do you have any info on this upgrade path? > I can''t seem to find anything about this... > > I would also like to throw in my $0.02 worth that I would like to see > the software offered to existing sun X4540 (or upgraded X4500) > customers. > > Chris G. > -- > This message posted from opensolaris.org > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss > > >
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Andy Lubel <andy.Lubel at gtsi.com> wrote:> > > I too would like to see how this happens, checked with some Sun people > and they didn''t know of a way to "upgrade" a 4500 other than trading it > in. Im assuming the Motherboard/CPU/Memory get swapped out, and from > the chasis layout, looks fairly involved. We don''t want to "upgrade" > something that we just bought so we can take advantage of this software > which appears to finally complete the Sun NAS picture with zfs! > > -Andy >Couldn''t you just swap out the hard drives? --Tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20081112/8f3ed7d1/attachment.html>
Afaik, the drives are pretty much the same, its the chipset that changed, which also meant a change of cpu and memory. -Andy ________________________________ From: Tim [mailto:tim at tcsac.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:24 PM To: Andy Lubel Cc: Chris Greer; zfs-discuss at opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenStorage GUI On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Andy Lubel <andy.Lubel at gtsi.com> wrote: I too would like to see how this happens, checked with some Sun people and they didn''t know of a way to "upgrade" a 4500 other than trading it in. Im assuming the Motherboard/CPU/Memory get swapped out, and from the chasis layout, looks fairly involved. We don''t want to "upgrade" something that we just bought so we can take advantage of this software which appears to finally complete the Sun NAS picture with zfs! -Andy Couldn''t you just swap out the hard drives? --Tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20081112/bb4f5681/attachment.html>
Did you have to do anything else to get the demo working on ESX 3.5? I''ve imported it, and disabled two NIC''s, and while it picks up an IP address the setup process won''t complete, it complains that "Network port NET-0 is down: check physical cabling and switch". PS. Adam, if it is possible to get this image working under ESX and VirtualBox, it would be good if Sun could publish instructions for running it under those systems.> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:26:46AM -0800, Adam > > Leventhal wrote: > > > On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Brent Jones wrote: > > > > Wish I could get my hands on a beta of this > > GUI... > > > > > > Take a look at the VMware version that you can > run > > on any machine: > > > > > > http://www.sun.com/storage/disk_systems/unified_storag > e > > /resources.jsp > > > > So long as "any machine" != ESX, then yes. ;) > > > > -brian > > Actually, it works pretty well on ESX 3.5 U3 for me. > I just had to import the VM as an "Other" type VM > using VMware Converter Enterprise, the same way you > would for VMware Server VMs or whatever. For some > reason I had to remove two of the network interfaces, > also, but after that it fired right up.-- This message posted from opensolaris.org
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Ross <myxiplx at googlemail.com> wrote:> > PS. Adam, if it is possible to get this image working under ESX and > VirtualBox, it would be good if Sun could publish instructions for running > it under those systems.Or instructions on how to dd the boot disk bits to the boot disk on ones thumper? :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/attachments/20081113/1c81dea0/attachment.html>
Scott Williamson wrote:> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Ross <myxiplx at googlemail.com > <mailto:myxiplx at googlemail.com>> wrote: > > > PS. Adam, if it is possible to get this image working under ESX and > VirtualBox, it would be good if Sun could publish instructions for > running it under those systems.I''ve tried to set this up under VirtualBox but I can''t get it to boot. I believe the issue is that VirtualBox doesn''t understand the multi-file format VMDK files that are used for the boot disk (Sun Storage VMware*.vmdk). I believe from googling that this could be fixed if you have access to VMware server by combining them back into a single vmdk file - I don''t have easy access to Vmware server so I can''t try this. -- Darren J Moffat
On 13 nov 2008, at 15.15, Darren J Moffat <darrenm at opensolaris.org> wrote:>> >> > I believe the issue is that VirtualBox doesn''t understand the multi- > file > format VMDK files that are used for the boot disk (Sun Storage > VMware*.vmdk). I believe from googling that this could be fixed if > you > have access to VMware server by combining them back into a single vmdk > file - I don''t have easy access to Vmware server so I can''t try this. > > --It''s even possible to transfer the image to bare metal, the same procedure must be usable to move the image to other virtualization software, once bootet it''s only ordinary block devices... Regards Henrik Johansson http://sparcv9.blogspot.com