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> 1. Re: How Many domUs on a Host (Grant McWilliams)
> 2. pv_ops reassigndev for pci passthrough (Michael D Labriola)
> 3. Re: pv_ops reassigndev for pci passthrough (Chris)
> 4. Re: [Xen-devel] pv_ops reassigndev for pci passthrough
> (Keir Fraser)
> 5. Re: How do I get Windows licenses for virtual machines?
> (Anthony Wright)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:57:51 -0800
> From: Grant McWilliams <grantmasterflash@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] How Many domUs on a Host
> To: Mohammed King <mohammed.king@gmail.com>
> Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
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> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Mohammed King <mohammed.king@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Looking for some guide lines to find out how many domUs I can host on
a
> > server. I have a Dual Quad Core (8 cores) server with 32GB of RAM.
> Currently
> > I have allocated 512MB of RAM to dom0 and distributed the rest to 89
> domUs
> > with 1 VPU each and LVM as my backend. I was able to get all 89
running
> with
> > no problems. I ram some test with stress and bonnie++ in a group of
domUs
> > and dom0 and other guests does not seam to be effected.
> >
> > However, I could be evaluating this incorrectly. Are there any tools
or
> > guidelines to confirm these results or do better performance analysis?
My
> > main concern is I/O and CPU usage.
> >
> > Thank you
> > --
> > Mohammed King
> > Systems Administrator
> > ----------------------------
> > No condition is permanent
> >
>
>
> It depends on what the DomUs are doing. I run 42 interactive gui sessions
> on
> a very similar machine and it''s pretty well tapped.
>
>
> Grant McWilliams
>
> Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know,
I''ll use
> Windows."
> Now they have two problems.
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> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:42:13 -0500
> From: Michael D Labriola <mlabriol@gdeb.com>
> Subject: [Xen-users] pv_ops reassigndev for pci passthrough
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> What ever happened to the reassigndev= kernel arg? I read through a bunch
> of emails way back when that was trying to get upstreamed... basically
> Greg KH didn''t like using the PCI addresses as arguments. Did
that get
> addressed in later 2.6.18 trees? Am I correct in assuming that
> reassigndev= and/or its replacement is not in xen/master yet?
>
> I''ve got PCI devices passed into domUs on a couple different boxes
using
> xen-pciback.hide, but it only works if the PCI device is page-aligned.
>
> -Mike
>
> ---
> Michael D Labriola
> Electric Boat
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:28:47 -0500
> From: Chris <tknchris@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] pv_ops reassigndev for pci passthrough
> To: Michael D Labriola <mlabriol@gdeb.com>
> Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com"
<xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
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> I have the exact same situation/problem
>
> Skickat från min iPhone
>
> Dec 23, 2009 kl. 12:42 PM skrev Michael D Labriola
<mlabriol@gdeb.com>:
>
> > What ever happened to the reassigndev= kernel arg? I read through a
> > bunch
> > of emails way back when that was trying to get upstreamed... basically
> > Greg KH didn''t like using the PCI addresses as arguments.
Did that
> > get
> > addressed in later 2.6.18 trees? Am I correct in assuming that
> > reassigndev= and/or its replacement is not in xen/master yet?
> >
> > I''ve got PCI devices passed into domUs on a couple different
boxes
> > using
> > xen-pciback.hide, but it only works if the PCI device is page-aligned.
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> > ---
> > Michael D Labriola
> > Electric Boat
> > mlabriol@gdeb.com
> > 401-848-8871 (office)
> > 401-316-9844 (cell)
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:03:55 +0000
> From: Keir Fraser <keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com>
> Subject: [Xen-users] Re: [Xen-devel] pv_ops reassigndev for pci
> passthrough
> To: Michael D Labriola <mlabriol@gdeb.com>,
> "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com"
<xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
> "xen-users@lists.xensource.com"
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> New option is reassign_resources. Used like:
> guestdev=00:01.0,00:02.0 reassign_resources
> Where you use guestdev= instead of pciback.hide>
> -- Keir
>
> On 23/12/2009 17:42, "Michael D Labriola"
<mlabriol@gdeb.com> wrote:
>
> > What ever happened to the reassigndev= kernel arg? I read through a
> bunch
> > of emails way back when that was trying to get upstreamed... basically
> > Greg KH didn''t like using the PCI addresses as arguments.
Did that get
> > addressed in later 2.6.18 trees? Am I correct in assuming that
> > reassigndev= and/or its replacement is not in xen/master yet?
> >
> > I''ve got PCI devices passed into domUs on a couple different
boxes using
> > xen-pciback.hide, but it only works if the PCI device is page-aligned.
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> > ---
> > Michael D Labriola
> > Electric Boat
> > mlabriol@gdeb.com
> > 401-848-8871 (office)
> > 401-316-9844 (cell)
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:18:09 +0000
> From: Anthony Wright <anthony@overnetdata.com>
> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] How do I get Windows licenses for virtual
> machines?
> To: Dustin.Henning@prd-inc.com
> Cc: ''Nathan Eisenberg'' <nathan@atlasnetworks.us>,
> xen-users@lists.xensource.com
> Message-ID: <4B326CF1.8000008@overnetdata.com>
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> What we''re talking about is a buyback contract for the physical
> hardware. I want our customers to own the hardware (often they supply
> it), but for the terms of the SPLA licensing agreement from Microsoft my
> company has to own the hardware. Thus a buyback contract would allow us
> to buy the hardware from the customer for a nominal $1 while it was
> needed to provide the service to them, prevent us from selling it to
> anybody else, include terms to deal with exceptional circumstances like
> company failure and at any time the customer can buy the hardware back
> for $1. Buying the hardware back would obviously terminate the contract
> with them, since they would no longer be licensed for the software.
>
> Anthony.
>
> Dustin Henning wrote:
> > Wouldn''t buyback contracts with an option to buy be
Potentially
> > dangerous with a virtual machine? I mean, if they own the virtual
> machine,
> > then do they only own the data, or do they own a potentially perpetual
> chunk
> > of virtual hardware that you might have to host permanently for free?
> > Obviously this would allow you to continue to sell bandwidth, but when
> the
> > hardware machine died, the virtual machine didn''t really, so
the virtual
> > machine might have to be considered as infallible. Sad to say, but in
> such
> > a scenario, perhaps virtuozzo ore HyperV with an Enterprise license
would
> be
> > better alternatives. Keep digging, though, I''m sure the list
would love
> to
> > see a solution involving Xen.
> > Dustin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com
> > [mailto:xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Anthony
> Wright
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 10:39
> > To: Nathan Eisenberg
> > Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
> > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] How do I get Windows licenses for virtual
> machines?
> >
> > I''m interested to look at a server licensing program,
I''m just more
> > familiar with the desktop software, and was in a hurry so started
there.
> > Essentially I have a dotNET application, and need IIS & the
dotNET
> > framework to be able to run it (it''s not suitable for Mono
> > unfortunately). I''m trying to find the cheapest way to do
this, and if
> > possible one that doesn''t involve handling large numbers of
boxes or
> > licenses.
> >
> > Any information you could provide on the Server 2008 licensing would
be
> > really appreciated. Also if you happen to know where I could look at
> > some sale & buyback contracts to use as examples, that would be
really
> > useful too.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Anthony.
> >
> > Nathan Eisenberg wrote:
> >
> >> There''s not a licensing program I am aware of that does
what you want
> >>
> > using the desktop product lineup. For what you are doing, it sounds
like
> a
> > server OS (server 2008 web if your application is appropriate for that
> OS),
> > a SPLA, plus some business arrangements (equipment is sold to your
> company
> > for $1 at the start of the contract, and the customer has an optional
$1
> > buyback at the close of the contract) are required.
> >
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Nathan Eisenberg
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: xen-users-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-users-
> >>> bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Wright
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:29 AM
> >>> To: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
> >>> Subject: [Xen-users] How do I get Windows licenses for virtual
> >>> machines?
> >>>
> >>> I''m having real problems trying to negotiate through
Microsoft to be
> >>> able to find a license that I can buy for a Windows XP Pro or
Windows 7
> >>> Pro DomU, that allows the following things:
> >>>
> >>> 1) There is no Windows OEM license for the hardware as Linux
is the
> >>> Dom0
> >>> O/S and we only install a Windows DomU on a small proportion
of boxes
> >>>
> >>> 2) Normally the customer owns the hardware not us
> >>>
> >>> We''ve just started shipping a product that requires
this setup, and
> >>> have
> >>> investigated Volume Licensing - but that requires an OEM
license for
> >>> the
> >>> box. SPLA licensing but that requires an OEM license & the
box to be
> >>> owned by us.
> >>>
> >>> The only option I''ve had offered by Microsoft is
buying retail boxed
> >>> licenses, and while I''ll go down that route if I have
to, it''s the most
> >>> expensive solution, and it''s going to be a real
administration headache
> >>> with loads of retail boxes and keys flying around.
> >>>
> >>> Has anybody else had this problem before, and if so do you
have any
> >>> suggestions. I really am tearing my hair out on this one.
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Anthony Wright.
> >>>
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